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Title: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 13, 2009, 04:10:23 PM
Im making progress, moving up from the hardware to the software topic.. :)

Ive now got os3.9 working fine, together with cgx4. But Ive noticed from time to time, the mousecursor freezes for a second. This can happen when extracing lha, clicking a link in Netsurf, etc.
 
What could be causing this? Are there known issues with AsyncWB for example? My guess is it has something to do with this. But it could also be some misconfiguration in the CGX tooltypes, for example.
 
Speaking of which, how do I enable screendragging?
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: cha05e90 on December 13, 2009, 05:27:24 PM
This is not a normal behaviour of OS3.9 - i'm using it since years with a similar setup (OS3.9 BoingBag 2 and CyberGrafX4). Sometimes this freezes can occur if a bad behaving program causes an exception or if some really CPU hungry stuff invokes. I guess here that theres some conflict in your current setup.
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Matt_H on December 13, 2009, 06:12:21 PM
I had momentary freezes when I had a DOSDriver mounted for a device that wasn't attached (a ZIP drive on SCSI unit 5).

Screendragging depends on your graphics card - not all support it. There should be a check box to enable it in the CyberGraphX commodity (installed to SYS:Prefs by default).
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: efrenmgp on December 13, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
My setup is 3.9 + Picasso96, and it freezes just like you describe but only when connected to the Internet using Genesis, even if I'm not actively using the connection.

I have no idea what causes this... :(
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 13, 2009, 06:39:58 PM
Quote from: efrenmgp;533717
My setup is 3.9 + Picasso96, and it freezes just like you describe but only when connected to the Internet using Genesis, even if I'm not actively using the connection.
 
I have no idea what causes this... :(

well, thanks! now I know where to start looking. I wasnt aware it was genesis that was causing the freezes, but now it makes sense.
 
perhaps I should switch to miamidx anyway, still got it lying around somewhere, registered. it does work with os3.9 I hope? :)
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: matthey on December 13, 2009, 07:39:22 PM
Quote from: efrenmgp;533717
My setup is 3.9 + Picasso96, and it freezes just like you describe but only when connected to the Internet using Genesis, even if I'm not actively using the connection.


Did you guys try the Genesis packet fix?

http://aminet.net/comm/tcp/AmiTCP_PacketFix.lha
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 13, 2009, 07:49:05 PM
I didnt. Sounds good, will try tomorrow!
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: mailman on December 13, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;533714
I had momentary freezes when I had a DOSDriver mounted for a device that wasn't attached (a ZIP drive on SCSI unit 5).


In my case such behaviour happens when for the first time a tool compiled for PPC is loaded into the memory. The next attempt to run it is OK.
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Framiga on December 13, 2009, 08:04:38 PM
it loks loooks like a filesystem/IDE lockup.

If you are useing SFS, rise the dosbuffers to 400 (at bare minimum)
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Framiga on December 13, 2009, 08:07:58 PM
"Amiga 1200 Kickstart 3.1 (40.68), Elbox Power/Winner tower, BlizzardPPC 603e+ @240mhz & 060 @50mhz, 256MB 60ns, BlizzardvisionPPC, IDE-fix Express, IndivisionAGA, 120GB IDE, cd, dvd, Cocolino, Micronik Keycase, PCMCIA Ethernet. Working on a dual-boot OS3.9 / OS4.0 setup."

what PSU are you using?
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 13, 2009, 09:53:34 PM
refurbished one from Elbox tower. its not a power issue, honest. it is related to Genesis.
 
Or, well.. there is one other thing I can think of, currently Im not using Setpatch with the option to skip the update for scsi.device. I didnt make any changes to NSDpatch.cfg either. I am however using IDE-Fix. Could it be that the OS is conflicting with the IDE-Fix express scsi.device patching?
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Matt_H on December 14, 2009, 04:25:43 AM
Quote from: rvo_nl;533720
perhaps I should switch to miamidx anyway, still got it lying around somewhere, registered. it does work with os3.9 I hope? :)


It sure does! I use it daily :)
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Framiga on December 14, 2009, 02:16:27 PM
used Genesis for a life and i never got any "freezes" (whatever it means)
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Framiga on December 14, 2009, 02:19:17 PM
Quote from: rvo_nl;533751
refurbished one from Elbox tower. its not a power issue, honest. it is related to Genesis.
 
Or, well.. there is one other thing I can think of, currently Im not using Setpatch with the option to skip the update for scsi.device. I didnt make any changes to NSDpatch.cfg either. I am however using IDE-Fix. Could it be that the OS is conflicting with the IDE-Fix express scsi.device patching?


what filesystem and how many dosbuffers?
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: Piru on December 14, 2009, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: matthey;533729
Did you guys try the Genesis packet fix?

http://aminet.net/comm/tcp/AmiTCP_PacketFix.lha

This packet fix has nothing to do with freezes.
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 14, 2009, 03:50:34 PM
Thanks. Still using FFS. Will be moving to SFS when I have the rest taken care of. buffers? Just the default.. What is recommended?
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: efrenmgp on December 14, 2009, 04:20:47 PM
Quote from: matthey;533729
Did you guys try the Genesis packet fix?

http://aminet.net/comm/tcp/AmiTCP_PacketFix.lha


Hello!

Yes I did.. but it didn't make any difference (about freezes)

Regards,
Efren
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: amigadave on December 14, 2009, 04:20:52 PM
Quote from: rvo_nl;533835
Thanks. Still using FFS. Will be moving to SFS when I have the rest taken care of. buffers? Just the default.. What is recommended?

Speaking of using SFS (or even PSF3, which I own a registered copy of), is the most common, easiest way of converting to those file systems to install them first of course, but then on a hard drive with several partitions, would it be best to just copy the contents of one partition to free space on an another partition, use HDToolBox to change the file system of the partition you copied FROM to SFS (or PSF), close HDToolBox which will probably tell you that you must reboot for the changes to take effect, reboot, format the changed partition (if required, which I would think it would be), then copy all the contents of that partition back to where they came from?

This would not work on the System partition as you would need an additional step of making the other partition that you copied it's content TO to be a bootable partition as HDToolBox would have wiped out your System partition when the File Type was changed from FFS to SFS (or PSF).

Did I miss anything, or am I way off base and there is a easier/better way to convert from an existing FFS partition to SFS, or PSF partitions?
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 14, 2009, 04:26:32 PM
no, I think thats the correct procedure. at least thats what I had in mind aswell.
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: efrenmgp on December 14, 2009, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: rvo_nl;533835
Thanks. Still using FFS. Will be moving to SFS when I have the rest taken care of. buffers? Just the default.. What is recommended?


I'm using SFS and still experiment the freezes. Don't get me wrong, going to SFS is a good idea anyway, I just don't think that will fix the problem (at least it didn't for me).

About buffers... I don't remember how many do I have, I'll need to check tonight.

Regards
Efren
Title: Re: OS3.9 sometimes freezes for a second
Post by: rvo_nl on December 14, 2009, 06:01:08 PM
Hi. Ive done some testing. Its definately caused by Genesis. When not loaded, lha extraction is fast and responsive. when Genesis is online, lha extraction causes system freeze every few seconds.