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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: shufflemoomin on November 26, 2009, 06:03:32 PM

Title: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: shufflemoomin on November 26, 2009, 06:03:32 PM
Hi to all,

I'm obviously new to the forum and also sort of new to the Amiga. I owned one as a teenager and never did anything but play games on it. I decided to pick up an A1200 as a blast from the past. I have the machine on the way and also an external SCSI CD-ROM drive. What's the best way to hook this up to an A1200? What options are available to me? I keep hearing about PCMCIA inputs and I assume this is the only way?

If this is the only way, what cards should I keep my eye open for, as I assume they have to be Amiga compatible and have Amiga drivers of some sort?

Any help and advice you can give for someone hoping to rekindle his love of Amiga would be appreciated.

Shufflemoomin
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: Crumb on November 26, 2009, 06:26:52 PM
Quote from: shufflemoomin;531411
Hi to all,

I'm obviously new to the forum and also sort of new to the Amiga. I owned one as a teenager and never did anything but play games on it. I decided to pick up an A1200 as a blast from the past. I have the machine on the way and also an external SCSI CD-ROM drive. What's the best way to hook this up to an A1200? What options are available to me? I keep hearing about PCMCIA inputs and I assume this is the only way?

If this is the only way, what cards should I keep my eye open for, as I assume they have to be Amiga compatible and have Amiga drivers of some sort?

Any help and advice you can give for someone hoping to rekindle his love of Amiga would be appreciated.

Shufflemoomin


A cheap way to connect your CD-rom is using a surf squirrel. Anyway I would use a pcmcia compact flash reader or maybe SD reader to transfer data. You could get a  Blizzard IV 1230 for general use. If you just want whdload games perhaps with a 8MB ram memory you have enough.
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: Amiduffer on November 26, 2009, 06:28:00 PM
Any reason in particular for using SCSI beyond a CD drive?

There were two types that allowed you to attach SCSI equipment. The SquirrelSCSI which attached to the PCMCIA port, and an pcb card that would connect to Blizzard type accelerators and use the blank space in the upper right of the rear of the 1200 for the port.

A better way is the Subway that Amigakit is selling.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=137&lcsid=ed6f56d80a971f171c77f33b97fe77f4

You'll have more choices if you use this, plus, if you can locate one, get an indivision, so that you can use any regular VGA monitor and you won't be stuck with C= monitors, since they're at the end of their life spans.
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: scuzzb494 on November 26, 2009, 09:51:37 PM
Best way is with a Blizzard fitted with the SCSIKIT as suggested. This way you can free the PCMCIA for an ethernet network card and get on broadband. Here is a pic of one of my set ups with two external SCSI hard drives, SCSI CD-ROM, SCSI ZIP Drive plus on the pic a modem which now has ethernet PCMCIA on broadband. I also now have a 17" monitor.

The other links show option with a Squirrel interface and the other links show the Blizzard and the port at the rear. Quite easy to set up, though the KIT may be a touch harder to get hold of.

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/my_amiga_large.jpg

PS: Can anyone explain the significance of the CD in the picture ?

Feed the Squirrel... http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/amiga_scuzz97.htm

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_nov02/a_scuzz_nov02_220.jpg

http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com/amiga/a_scuzz_nov02/a_scuzz_nov02_221.jpg

scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: Tension on November 27, 2009, 01:13:11 AM
Welcome to Amiga.org -- You'll never leave!!
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: shufflemoomin on November 27, 2009, 10:31:20 AM
Thanks to all for the replies.

The reason I wanted a CD-ROM drive is I've been using WinUAE to play my old games for years. I don't have any Amiga games around any more and I assumed there'd be some way to get these .adf files over to the Amiga, either to load from HDD or to get them onto Amiga floppies.

What's the quickest, easiest or cheapest way to get data from a PC over to an Amiga these days?

Thanks again to everyone
Shufflemoomin
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: mousehouse on November 27, 2009, 10:40:58 AM
If you're on an A1200 I think your best guess is a PCMCIA/Flash adapter and stick a flash card in it... Then on your PC install WinUAE and use that to put files on the flash card...

Or use a IDE2CF adapter in your Amiga and use WinUAE to edit the complete disk on your PC ;-)

You could also get a supported PCMCIA networking card...
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: ck1200 on November 27, 2009, 01:49:46 PM
Welcome for one newbie to another, i'm also going to be looking at cf drives and a accelerator as a first upgrade step with 3.1 rom
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: shufflemoomin on November 27, 2009, 06:50:25 PM
I like the idea of a PCMCIA CF reader. Can you use any one of them in an Amiga or do they require specific support? What brands/models should I be on the look out for?

Thanks again
Shufflemoomin
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: amigakit on November 27, 2009, 11:22:33 PM
We sell the EasyADF PCMCIA Compact Flash Transfer Kit (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440) with Amiga compatible 4GB Compact Flash here:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: Amiduffer on November 28, 2009, 03:14:06 AM
Quote from: shufflemoomin;531465
Thanks to all for the replies.

The reason I wanted a CD-ROM drive is I've been using WinUAE to play my old games for years. I don't have any Amiga games around any more and I assumed there'd be some way to get these .adf files over to the Amiga, either to load from HDD or to get them onto Amiga floppies.

What's the quickest, easiest or cheapest way to get data from a PC over to an Amiga these days?

Thanks again to everyone
Shufflemoomin


Well, you've certainly got some nice options then. The Blizzard SCSI kit and SurfSquirrel/SquirrelSCSI are pretty hard to find, but show up on ebay once in a while. That's if you want to use your SCSI CD drive.

You can get the PCMCIA Compact Flash adaptor from Amikit, which is an easy way to transfer files back and forth.

Amikit also sells the USB kit, so that you can connect all sorts of devices, CD drives included.

Another way is with a null modem cable and Amiga Explorer (included with Amiga Forever), you can move files back and forth between the PC and Amiga quite easily.

A few people have done a little modifying of the 1200 case and installed a laptop CD drive inside, since it uses IDE.
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: shufflemoomin on November 28, 2009, 01:29:06 PM
Quote from: amigakit;531550
We sell the EasyADF PCMCIA Compact Flash Transfer Kit (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440) with Amiga compatible 4GB Compact Flash here:

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440
Unless I'm missing something by a country mile: I buy this kit you linked to which gives me the hardware & software to transfer files over on a CF card? Is this really both hardware and software for only £14? Surely that can't be right? :)

Shufflemoomin
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: dougal on November 28, 2009, 01:52:46 PM
Another way if you want a CDROM drive is by getting an IDE cdrom drive and connecting it to your Amiga's IDE port.

With regards to transferring from Amiga to PC / PC to Amiga, a PCMCIA CF card reader/writer is your best and cheapest option. Very Very usefull and VERY cheap.
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: Amiduffer on November 28, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
Quote from: shufflemoomin;531605
Unless I'm missing something by a country mile: I buy this kit you linked to which gives me the hardware & software to transfer files over on a CF card? Is this really both hardware and software for only £14? Surely that can't be right? :)

Shufflemoomin


Yes, he's correct. Its that easy and that cheap.
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: shufflemoomin on November 29, 2009, 01:06:42 PM
Fantastic! Sold!
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: DIBBEERZ on November 29, 2009, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: shufflemoomin;531717
fantastic! Sold!


i agree ide is best i found the easyest way to transfer lots of data from pc
is use a ide drive and plug it in pc and winuae will reconise it and you can install workbench on it and as much adfs as you like you will need an adapter to use the ide port or a bufferd ide interface if u plan on usin other stuff
ive got 2 sittin here an unbufferd and a bufferd if you interested ?
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: DIBBEERZ on November 29, 2009, 02:53:52 PM
i agree compact flash another way is to is use a ide drive and plug it in pc and winuae will reconise it and you can install workbench on it and as much adfs as you like you will need an adapter to use the ide port or a bufferd ide interface if u plan on usin other stuff ive got 2 sittin here an unbufferd and a bufferd if you interested ?
Title: Re: Noob with A1200/SCSI questions
Post by: shufflemoomin on December 01, 2009, 05:21:35 PM
Thanks for the offer but I'm going to go with the CF PCMCIA adapter that was posted here. I can't believe such a simple and cheap solution existed. I've already bought one and I can see me spending some money at that place over the next few months.

Thanks for all the help guys
Shufflemoomin