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Title: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: sim085 on November 16, 2009, 08:45:40 AM
Hi,

I was wondering - if you had to buy an A1200 then would you go for the refurbished version (or buy one from ebay) or for the new old stock version?

Regards,
Sim085
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Everblue on November 16, 2009, 08:46:43 AM
Depends on the price difference I guess.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: sim085 on November 16, 2009, 09:19:51 AM
So the New Old Stock has nothing better then the old stock?
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: amiga1260 on November 16, 2009, 09:30:33 AM
I would buy a New old stock A1200, because you get a shiny white case and keyboard and doesn't have used scratches on it. The only problem with a NOS A1200 is the price.

The refurbished A1200 is cheaper and they have been fully checked for faulty parts before selling the A1200 to you.

I bought a refurbished A1200 and CD32 years ago and still working.

Buying secondhand is something like winning the lottery, because the buyer mostly checked the A1200, but it is possible when you get it the A1200 will work for years or days. The most problems you can get, are problems with floppy drives, Hard drives and maybe missing the Workbench disks.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: dangermouse on November 16, 2009, 09:41:45 AM
Well I just bought a refurbished A1200 top and bottom case from and it arrived with a few marks (acceptable) but a chip out of the side of the top lid. Refurbished in my eyes is tidy, clean and usual wear and tear but damage is damage and should be stated.

I've sent a support claim in so we'll see what happens but, bottom line I guess, is if you're after mint condition then get new-old stock. If you don't mind a few marks then refurbished is perfectly fine. The only issue I have with mine is the damage..everything else is just fine.

Would I buy refurb cases again? Probably but that's only because I'm not aware of anywhere that just sells new cases anymore. If I had the option of new or refurb I'd go new every time and that's simply as if I'm spending the money I want the condition to be reflective of this.

Then again there's Retr0bright...have turned a few disgusting yellow A500/600 cases into ones that you really can't pick from a 'new' one.

It's pot luck really...one man's idea of mint is another one's idea of good. If you're fussy get new...if not get refurb but get pictures if possible.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Tension on November 16, 2009, 11:04:49 AM
The Caps. will still need replaced in a new model.  Possibly even more so than a used model, so be wary of that.

Plus I think there is an issue with AT A1200s` floppy drives.   They were from a PeeCee, and had problems with some games with custom bootblocks.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: jj on November 16, 2009, 02:02:22 PM
Quote from: Tension;529810
The Caps. will still need replaced in a new model. Possibly even more so than a used model, so be wary of that.
 
Plus I think there is an issue with AT A1200s` floppy drives. They were from a PeeCee, and had problems with some games with custom bootblocks.

 
Not 100% on this but pretty sure that most of the NOS stuff kicking around is from the C days
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Mr_DBUG on November 16, 2009, 02:57:35 PM
I think Amigakit has NOS AT A1200s  !

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=668
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Ruud on November 16, 2009, 03:36:45 PM
Magic Pack seems to be what's about and that was AT stock afair.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Moto on November 16, 2009, 04:10:47 PM
I got one of the "new" old stock 1200s from Amigakit because I wanted it to be in perfect shape (and it was).   It even came in the original box so it was like Christmas.  It was a little extra but if money is the issue, you can just buy a used one for much less.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: tone007 on November 16, 2009, 05:05:15 PM
The only reason I'd go for a used 1200 is I don't particularly like the Amiga Technologies label.  If they said Commodore, I'd definitely go for new.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: amiga1260 on November 16, 2009, 10:05:26 PM
In 2000 I bought a NOS Amiga 1200 Magic Pack and I got an Amiga 1200 with 1D4 motherboard and a normal diskdrive without a special disk drive adapter.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Moto on November 16, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
It's really quite amazing that there is even any stock left... I wonder how much still exists?
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: Crisisdog on November 17, 2009, 01:31:37 AM
I purchased a refurbished A1200 from AmigaKit.  It was a nice white case and clean keyboard.  My only complaint was that it had what appears to be a PC floppy drive with an activity light, and the eject button rubbed against the case.  Thankfully I had a spare (original A1200 drive) laying around for some reason.  Otherwise, no issues in purchasing the refurb.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: MelbourneBen on December 21, 2010, 12:22:20 AM
I noticed Amigakit had some refurbed Amiga 1200's available a couple of weeks ago but the 'buy now' button has since dissapeared :angry: I assume because there is no more stock. I've emailed Amigakit twice over the last couple of weeks but have yet to recieve a reply.

Can anyone from Amigakit advise if any new refurbed stock will be available soon?

I live in Australia and good A1200's dont appear on ebay all too often.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: amigadave on December 21, 2010, 03:27:00 AM
Quote from: Moto;529884
It's really quite amazing that there is even any stock left... I wonder how much still exists?

I was told by Matthew at the AmiWest 2010 Show, that I was purchasing the last new NTSC A1200 that he had for sale.  He said he has one more, but was keeping it for himself (or was it for testing of third party hardware?).  I don't know how many new PAL A1200's he still has, but I think he has lots that he can sell as refurbished.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: DCAmiga on December 21, 2010, 11:52:37 AM
Well the other thing to consider when buying from Amigakit is that the NOS comes with KS 3.1 & all original 3.1 WB Disks and the Refurbished has KS 3.0 and WB will cost you extra anyway. IMO it would be well worth the extra few $$ futher down the track if you want to upgrade ;)
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: r06ue1 on December 21, 2010, 12:41:49 PM
I bought a refurb from Amigakit about a month ago and have been happy with it so far.  It is nice being able to add options to it as part of the bundle (I got the 3.1 OS and ROM instead of the 3.0 and added a hard drive and wireless NIC).  The NOS doesn't give you all that flexibility but it is new which is very cool.  
 
Looks like the NOS is out of stock, no buy button now.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: psxphill on December 21, 2010, 01:11:26 PM
Quote from: Tension;529810
Plus I think there is an issue with AT A1200s` floppy drives. They were from a PeeCee, and had problems with some games with custom bootblocks.

If you undo the hack they did to the motherboard then you can use a CBM floppy drive quite easily. The AT drives can be hacked to CBM specs as well, but it's more work & can be a bit fiddly. I did mine over a decade ago after I got one cheap from Tandy in the UK when they closed down.
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: MelbourneBen on December 22, 2010, 10:49:58 PM
I dont mind if its NOS or a refurbed A1200, to be honest I'd probably prefer a refurbed Commodore machine. If anyone from Amigakit can advise if they have any available that would be great :)
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: whabang on December 23, 2010, 07:50:39 AM
Quote from: Mr_DBUG;529831
I think Amigakit has NOS AT A1200s  !

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=668


Alas, there's no "add to cart" option. :(
Title: Re: A1200 refurbished or new old stock
Post by: InTheSand on December 23, 2010, 08:17:11 AM
Mmmm... New Amiga in original cellophane!!! Been a long long time since I've seen one of those!