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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: skurk on November 15, 2009, 08:08:37 PM
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This might be old news, but I thought I'd mention it to be sure.
Just received two of these from Deal Extreme. $4.55 each, free shipping worldwide:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.30530
Works great on Amiga, the only thing worth mentioning is that buttons B and C are Fire 1 and 2. The other buttons have no effect.
If you're looking for a brand new, affordable joypad, get one of these.
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I'm sure it works as you said but, after looking at the pictures, it looks like the connector is mini-USB??
How exactly do these connect to the Amiga?
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Looks exactly like the 6-button Sega Genesis control pads of yore. I have several of those and use 'em all the time on my Amigas. Best damn pads to be sure. I am told though, that you need this special adapter cable in order to take advantage of the 2nd firing button. This is confirmed as not even the Sega joypad program from Aminet "activates" any of the other buttons. Even the readme file mentions an adapter. Those adapters can be bought from Best Electronics though and cost around $11 IIRC. No need to monkey around with USB either as these are DB9 friendly.
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I used to take Mega Drive controllers apart and move a few wires about. IIRC the 'B' button is already connected, so I used the 'C' button as 2nd Fire.
Remember reading something back in the 90s about Mega Drive controllers. They can apparently damage the Amiga cos of the way some lines are connected. If you`re handy with a soldering iron it won be a problem :)
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Like save2600 said, it's a standard DB9F. Connects directly to the Amiga's joystick port.
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Ah OK. Their image must be wrong as the enlarged sample picture doesn't show a DB9 that I've ever seen ;)
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Like save2600 said, it's a standard DB9F. Connects directly to the Amiga's joystick port.
No, I wasn't commenting on the one pictured... that does indeed look like a mini-usb plug. I was talking about the DB9 compatible Sega/Megadrive pads with the 'Best Electronics' adapter.
If that generic looking Sega 6-button pad is indeed DB9, perhaps the plug is tipped on its side? Sure does look USB to me too though... but if you're using it with a Miggy - has got to be DB9 :-)
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A better view of the controller (the one on the right) is below ...
(http://www1.dealextreme.com/productimages/sku_30606_1.jpg)
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Thanks for the info, a nice find indeed. I ordered 2 immediately. I love dealextreme and their worldwide free shipping.:)
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Awesome! If I didn't already have a bevy of NOS 6-button Sega pads, I'd surely have gone for this. Funny how the first pic though looked like it was terminated mini-usb. lol Thanks for clarifying!
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Ah OK. Their image must be wrong as the enlarged sample picture doesn't show a DB9 that I've ever seen ;)
Look at the plug sideways, and it will look exactly like it does in that photo. It's just a DB9 plug on its side.
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Oh yeah, and we should clear this up for sure.
2-button Sega Master System, 3-button and 6-button Sega MegaDrive/Genesis pads all work on Amigas for any game that supports controllers with one or two buttons. If you try to use a Sega pad in a game that needs a CD32 pad, button 1/B will act as the Red button, but button 2/C activates every button on the CD32 pad at once, including the Play/Pause button, which often causes the game to pause every time you press button 2/C.
You don't need to modify a Sega pad for it to work perfectly with all 1 and 2 button games. You can't modify them to act as CD32 pads unfortunately, but if you're handy with a soldering iron you can add a modification to make the A button on a MegaDrive/Genesis pad act as the UP direction. This makes them incredibly handy for playing platform games that use UP to jump, and racing games that use UP to accelerate.
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You don't need to modify a Sega pad for it to work perfectly with all 1 and 2 button games.
Are you 100% sure about that? I`m 99% sure the second fire button doesn`t work unless you mod the controller...
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Are you 100% sure about that? I`m 99% sure the second fire button doesn`t work unless you mod the controller...
I'm with Tension here. Feeling rather retarded and having drunk many pints up to this very moment, I am quite sure a resistor or other line needs to be tapped in order to enable the 2nd fire button on a Genesis pad...
Something else that needs to be brought to attention Re: the 6-button pad... there is an I.C. resident, where - you need to hold in the 'Mode' button upon bootup that allows the gamepad to be "read" as a 'standard' 3-button Genesis pad. Sorry... MegaDrive... lol (what a stupid name Sega!)
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I have been using Sega Genesis joypads on my Amiga 2-button games for decades. They work perfectly on all my stacks of 2-button Amiga games.
I bought them at Toys R Us for $6.00 each back around 1993.
The ones I got are not made by Sega. They say "High Frequency" on them.
No modification needed!
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Thanks ChaosLord. I also have been using Sega pads on several Amigas with 2-button games my whole life, and still do, and just tested a Sega Master System 2-button, Sega Mega Drive 3 and 6 button controllers, and as I expected, as always, they worked fine!
And today I realised this Deal Extreme place delivers for free to Australia, so that's a sweet price for a bunch of replacement pads for my Amigas and Segas!
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There is something very strange going on here...
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There is something very strange going on here...
What are you implying?
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I use a Six Button Megadrive pad and have done for a long time. Very reliable although I did have to clean the Up Button contacts recently. Not sure if I have ever used more than the B button though.
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Cool, thanks for the lead. BTW, what are some 2-button amiga games?
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Btw, the DX joypads are crap, but I guess I can't complain at 4.55.
They are so small!!! My hands are tiny, but I still can't hold them for comfortable playing. I guess I'll add them to the lot when I'm selling my extra Megadrive and keep the Sega pad...
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Cool, thanks for the lead. BTW, what are some 2-button amiga games?
The Lost Vikings
Street Fighter II
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What are you implying?
Me too think there is something strange going on here...
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The strange thing for me is how can they make money when they have free shipping worldwide on these things... and still sell them this cheap.
Here is what I ordered for only USD21:
2x Additional Gamepad Controller for SKU 28970: Amount:$9.10 USD
USB to RS232 Serial Port Adapter: Amount:$2.99 USD
CompactFlash CF Card to IDE Hard Disk Adapter Card (IDE-40: $2.64 USD
SATA-IDE Bilateral Converter Board: Amount:$6.47 USD
Registered Air Mail: Amount:$0.01 USD
I'm sure that even one of these products ordered from any webshop Norway would cost me more than the total here, and probably add another USD21 just for the domestic postage.
Thaks for providing the link to this page :)
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Btw, the DX joypads are crap, but I guess I can't complain at 4.55.
They are so small!!! My hands are tiny, but I still can't hold them for comfortable playing.
Really? I'm quite pleased with the two joypads I got. I think the size is just fine, and my hands are average in size, I suppose.
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Well, I guess I overreacted a bit. They are decent for the price, but compared to Megadrive pads...
They really seem small to me - when I hold them with my fingers only, it's ok, but I'm used to holding pads in my palms and that's impossible with these.
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What's nice about those pads compared to a Genesis/Mega Drive controller is how much more discreet the directions are. In other words, on a standard 3-button Mega Drive controller, you oft times accidentally 'jump' when you meant to just go right. Sega Master System pads are the worst yet. Horrible design IMHO.
Still don't know why Cammy has good luck playing 2 button games on a Sega pad though without using an adapter or patch somewhere... I've only ever been able to use 1-button (B) on my Miggy's. I think that's what some are saying is "strange"...
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I only tried Sega pads on Amiga two days ago for the first time, but I too was also able to use 2 buttons for 2 different actions without any tinkering. Can't remember the game now though...
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Their DX logo looks like it was lifted from a Yamaha synthesizer.