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Title: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: mousehouse on November 09, 2009, 02:47:45 PM
Browsing the internet I found http://www.gvp-m.com/

It looks to me like they are still or again producing various accelerators for the Amiga. At $495 for the Amiga 4000 / 68060 / 64MB board this is not even a bad price, given that I've seen Cyberstorm MK2's go for €300+ on Ebay...

Is it a hoax, extremely outdated site? Or should everybody looking for an upgrade consider buying it from GVP?
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: davideo on November 09, 2009, 02:51:24 PM
Looking at the page updated and copyright sign - I would guess this is way outa date!!

Copyright 1997-2003 Great Valley Products - M Inc.
This website was last updated 13th October 2003

Dave G
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: persia on November 09, 2009, 02:53:19 PM
GVP went bankrupt in '95.

Once booming GVP quietly goes bust. (Great Valley Products Inc.)
Philadelphia Business Journal | July 14, 1995 | Davis, Jessica

KING OF PRUSSIA - Great Valley Products Inc., a regular on the Philadelphia Business Journal's list of fastest-growing privately held companies until 1993, has quietly wound up its operations and dissolved.
At its peak in 1992 the computer peripherals company employed about 75 people and sold $31.2 million worth of merchandise. In November of that year, two venture capital firms announced plans to invest $5 million in the hot little company.
Great Valley, which built its business on peripherals for Commodore International Ltd.'s Amiga family of computers, planned to use the venture capital to help diversify its product line into peripherals for IBM-compatible personal computers.
But the diversification came too late.
Amiga-maker Commodore had already begun its downward slide that would lead to its bankruptcy last year.
Great Valley brought one PC peripheral to market, a video capture board, but it was unsuccessful. Other PC products under development were abandoned as Great Valley's revenues and prospects sagged.
A few months after the once $1 billion Commodore filed for voluntary liquidation in the spring of 1994, GVP's directors quietly decided to liquidate GVP.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: AmigaPete on November 09, 2009, 02:57:09 PM
It is not a hoax. GVP may be nonexistent but GVP-M is not. The pages are a bit outdated - home page comes up with this... this website was updated last on 27th of july 2008. Davideo, you need to hit refresh. Their products are available through SoftHut.

Pete
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: davideo on November 09, 2009, 03:07:57 PM
Pete,

The home page is as you stated but the price list (the important page) is still dated 2003 :furious:

Dave G
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: sim085 on November 09, 2009, 03:15:24 PM
As much as I know the 'M' in GVP-M stands for M-Tech and M-Tech created the E-Matrix 530 (DCE: Viper 530). Now if they put that on the market again then I would be a very happy boy!

I wonder if the semantics of such a board are actually available!
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: mousehouse on November 09, 2009, 03:22:35 PM
Been reading up on SoftHut, their site does not seem that up to date either.

I just sent an email to GVP-M, let's see what happens...

Quote
Hello GVP-M,

On your website you list various 68040 and 68060 accelerators for the Amiga 3000 and 4000. Is that information correct and are those orderable products?

If so, can you give me an updated price - possibly including shipping charges for one or more units to the Netherlands? Also I'm interested in the time it will take to ship units (are they in stock)...

Regards
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: Tension on November 09, 2009, 03:23:53 PM
IIRC there`s a thread from a few months ago about this.

I think they announced they were making a new run of boards or something like that.

EDIT: here`s the thread http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=41064&highlight=accelerators
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: persia on November 09, 2009, 03:47:32 PM
The GVP-M.com website was set up a year after Great Valley Products liquidated itself.  It would be interesting to know what, if any relationship GVP-M has with the former GVP.  

The contact on the domain is Michael Wojciechowski, but the name seems common, so it's hard to tell which one is him.  There's a student at Pennsylvania State University, that could be him, but I doubt he set up the website 13 years ago as that would have made him 8 or 9 at the time...
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: Lockon_15 on November 09, 2009, 03:52:01 PM
Quote from: sim085;528937
As much as I know the 'M' in GVP-M stands for M-Tech and M-Tech created the E-Matrix 530 (DCE: Viper 530). Now if they put that on the market again then I would be a very happy boy!
 
I wonder if the semantics of such a board are actually available!

 
Not in this lifetime.
No business case for even a small production run.
 
Save some 500 € and write a nice post under "Marketplace"...that might actually work for you....:rofl:
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: AmigaPete on November 09, 2009, 04:01:35 PM
Geeze you guys... click through to the SoftHut website (from the GVP-M website) and you will see what GVP stuff is available to order.

Basic story as I recall it... Michael worked for GVP, GVP went bust, Michael decided to make some stuff on his own using GVP name, quality and familiarity, now makes the occasional batch of goodies and sells through SuftHut. The guy doesn't update his site that often - big friggin' deal.

Pete
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: sim085 on November 09, 2009, 04:16:45 PM
Quote from: Lockon_15;528944
Not in this lifetime.:rofl:

Did I mention I like to day dream a lot? ;) That said, if the schematic ever get released then who knows what could happen :)
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: mousehouse on November 09, 2009, 06:29:59 PM
Quote from: AmigaPete;528945
Geeze you guys... click through to the SoftHut website (from the GVP-M website) and you will see what GVP stuff is available to order.

Basic story as I recall it... Michael worked for GVP, GVP went bust, Michael decided to make some stuff on his own using GVP name, quality and familiarity, now makes the occasional batch of goodies and sells through SuftHut. The guy doesn't update his site that often - big friggin' deal.

Pete


If that's the case, is there someone here on the forum who got one of those TRex2 / '060 cards or any other card from GVP-M for that matter? Still think it's a reasonable price given the "Ebay Value" of these things...

The thread from Softhut is filled with people waiting for a very long time for their cards, would be nice to know the orders are filled and that they are happily humming along :-)

Last point, can this guy take the designs and remake those boards? Didn't the ownership of those designs get sold to someone after GVP went bust?
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: utri007 on November 09, 2009, 06:57:59 PM
Search tool here and amigaworld would be heplfull ;)

But you guis must be blind, here was a lot a discussion about that couble of monts ago. All these questions has asked before.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: mousehouse on November 09, 2009, 09:38:27 PM
Quote from: utri007;528966
Search tool here and amigaworld would be heplfull ;)

But you guis must be blind, here was a lot a discussion about that couble of monts ago. All these questions has asked before.


If that's the case I missed them in the search... searched for GVP-M which gave 0 results...
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: odin on November 09, 2009, 09:50:32 PM
Yep, there was news that GVP was doing a few runs of new hardware again recently. IIRC the prices weren't even all that high.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: wlemonds on November 10, 2009, 02:27:39 AM
Quote from: odin;528984
Yep, there was news that GVP was doing a few runs of new hardware again recently. IIRC the prices weren't even all that high.

Price was great. I got a 4060DT card for the 4000D from Software Hut. Even though the first card had issues I got a replacement and still works great.

Also, I see amigakit has the E-Matrix 1230/40 in stock.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: Atron89 on November 11, 2009, 12:44:22 AM
Quote from: mousehouse;528930
Browsing the internet I found http://www.gvp-m.com/
 
It looks to me like they are still or again producing various accelerators for the Amiga. At $495 for the Amiga 4000 / 68060 / 64MB board this is not even a bad price, given that I've seen Cyberstorm MK2's go for €300+ on Ebay...
 
Is it a hoax, extremely outdated site? Or should everybody looking for an upgrade consider buying it from GVP?

I ordered and received a A4000DT-060 Accelerator with 128Mb through Software Hut 3 months ago and it works fine. It is a Revision 2 board.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: mousehouse on November 20, 2009, 02:11:03 PM
Well, I  emailed both Softhut and GVP-M on sales email addresses listed on their sites and did not receive a response from either one. Nice way to run a business!
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: Tension on November 20, 2009, 02:16:23 PM
Quote from: mousehouse;530473
Well, I  emailed both Softhut and GVP-M on sales email addresses listed on their sites and did not receive a response from either one. Nice way to run a business!




It seems more like a labour of love than a business.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: utri007 on November 20, 2009, 03:23:36 PM
Some people still imaging that there is some kind of amiga business :D

Those who do amiga busines do it for hobby or to support their beloved hobby
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: mousehouse on November 20, 2009, 06:58:16 PM
Ok ok, point taken :)

Given that doing stuff with or for the Amiga is almost on par with charity now I  did at least expect a response on my emails, been more than two weeks. And to my self-defence : both sites have the look and feel of a real business. They don't state or point to the fact that they are a spare-time-good-idea type of thing.

Given the prices that accelerators go for, especially the PPC ones, I think here very much is a business case for a limited run of units...
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: Moto on November 20, 2009, 08:18:35 PM
Joe at Softhut is usually pretty responsive.  I don't think softhut is his primary business any longer but you can still get some neat stuff that he has in stock.  Definitely call or email before you purchase something on the site.  He usually gets back to you within a few days.
Title: Re: GVP again producing Amiga hardware?
Post by: rednova on November 20, 2009, 10:08:28 PM
Hi:

I recently ( a few months ago) Ordered from Soft Hut a gvp 16 mb ram simm. I received the SIMM really fast and in working condition. Thanks to this purchase, I was able to upgrade my GVP jaws 030 accelerator, to the max of full 32 mb ram.
As I said...soft hut was really pronto to send, and good quality merchandise.
I ordered before from soft hut a few times...and they never let me down.

rednova