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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: redrumloa on November 07, 2003, 05:23:48 PM
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Hey there I just purchased countless older laptops, mostly between P100 and P266. I know what to expect selling them on eBay, and that's where most of them will likely be sold. I am just curious if there is any inerest here in some of them?
My thinking is these would be good for either AROS or even more so WinUAE. UAE JIT on a P266 should deliver over 060 performance and on a P100 ~040 performance. These would make cheap ~Amiga laptops as they would only be selling on eBay for ~$75-$250 price range (very rough ballpark).
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750USD for a P266 laptop? That much? Perhaps I should try auctioning my old P133 laptop.
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"060/040-performance"
That is if those old CPUs do work with JIT and if the laptops have enough
RAM to serve host-OS, UAE, JIT-cache, Z3-MEM and GFX-MEM.
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Bout the prices:
In early 2002 I bought a Dell-laptop at a computer fair.
Celeron 550mHz, 64mb, ATI-Rage, 6gb-HD, CD,Floppy, bag (a good one),
charger, battery, 10mBit-Ethernet-card and a extenal mouse. (+Win98)
All completly unused for 600 Euro.
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odin wrote:
750USD for a P266 laptop? That much? Perhaps I should try auctioning my old P133 laptop.
WHOOPS!! :-o :-o
Let me go change that!! :-o
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I got an PII 450 Laptop that I run WinUAE on, but since the onboard gfx card is only equipped with 2,5 MB RAM it's dog slow anyway. :\
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Bout the prices:
It was a typo!!! :-D
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I personally have a couple of compaq armadas 266 mmx laptops... They are much slower than even my old desktop 133@200 which does not even have mmx.. I managed to run fellow quite ok on it though but winuae was so so...
I have not tested aros on it yet
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@Thomas
That's odd, you must have very low system memory? i guess I will have to test a few when I get a chance:-)
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No way can a P266 deliver 060 performance. Nor can a P100 deliver 040 performance. There's overhead involved in the emulation, not to mention the OS, etc. I'd say the P266 could emulate a fast 020 and the P100 could do a nice 68k but not faster.
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Any of those have a USB port on em? I need one for my rockets... (no foolin, I build and launch big real rockets). What models? I'd prefer getting something that has an easily replaceable battery pack (most older laptops have dead cells).
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@adolescent
Have you ever tried the new WinUAE with JIT? It is VERY fast as long as you have enough RAM.
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@Jagabot
I will be testing and sorting starting tommorow, I will have more information soon. I would think at least some of the ~P266 models would have USB. i will resurrect this thread as soon as I have more info.
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I used to run Amithlon on a P2-266mhz laptop, and it was rougly 060@50 performance, according to a lot of test we did in csaa.
Amithlon is roughly 2x the speed of UAE-JIT, so your figure might be just a bit off :-)
Never the less, it could make a fine Amiga laptop, using the right emulator and some Mem.
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Yes, I used WinUAE with JIT on my old AMD K7-700 and 256M RAM and it's (sometimes) very fast. But, the benchmarks are misleading. On some tests, the speeds show 060 speeds. But, in normal use it's much slower. Try running benchmarks other than SYSSPEED and you'll see the difference.
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adolescent wrote:
No way can a P266 deliver 060 performance. Nor can a P100 deliver 040 performance. There's overhead involved in the emulation, not to mention the OS, etc. I'd say the P266 could emulate a fast 020 and the P100 could do a nice 68k but not faster
I'd agree. My P200 can't even emulate an A500 properly, at least not with sound.
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I have not long bought a 366 pentium 2 dell laptop off of ebay for a 110 pound using buy it now full working order but no battery. I paid 10 pence for 5 untested / worn out baterys plus 8 pound for the postage going to see how much the battery shop near me charges to rebuild one if they can do it for less than 54 pound i might get 1 or 2 repaired or might rebuild one with new cells myself going to replace cd rom with a dvd drive and run linux and aros and beos plus qnx if i can .
I have an old 133 texas instruments laptop with a near new battery i need to sell it has no cdrom drive but battery last for 2 hours on full charge. :-)
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Have you tried installing AROS on any of them yet?
Dammy
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Well, I had had AROS runing great (unbelieveably fast) on an old P75... so I guess these laptops will be great for it.
Red, make sure that the graphics chips support Vesa2.0
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Here's the first one tested and listed.
HERE (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3440025226)
Looks like the vast majority of them will be parts only machines, but this one is good working.
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How is the battery?
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The battery seems to work fine. It took a charge and i left it on and running on battery power for quite a while with what appeared to be normal usage.
The picture shows the laptop running on battery power.