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Title: BBS Software
Post by: irishmike on October 12, 2009, 08:29:30 PM
Greetings:

I am not sure if this post should be here or in software, but I think it better fits here.

I am wondering what is the best BBS software that was on an Amiga?  Was there one that also supported TCP/IP as well as Modems... When I ran my system back in the day, it was on a PC running RemoteAccess 2 and recently I acquired a license (transfer) for MajorBBS on the PC platform, but I thought it would be cool to find the software for Amiga.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks -- If you were a sysop, I definitely want to hear from you.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: persia on October 12, 2009, 08:40:24 PM
Check this out:
http://www.bbsdocumentary.com/software/expanded.html Search for Amiga.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: don27dog on October 12, 2009, 09:27:59 PM
There are still a couple bbs online running Ami-Express, one running Fame, and a few using C-net.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: irishmike on October 12, 2009, 10:20:42 PM
Ok, now it seems I remember C-Net being kind of the BBS software of choice, but I have downloaded AMI Express and C-Net 3.05c.  On the PC side, I was good friends with a sysop who ran PC-Board.  Hopefully the AMI stuff will be as fun.

Thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: wlemonds on October 12, 2009, 10:35:22 PM
I ran an Amiga BBS here in Texas for some time in the early and mid 90s before the Internet boom and used CNET when it was under Perspective Software, with ISDN. For a time during that I had the 486 bridgeboard running Wildcat from Mustang Software with a null-modem hookup to one of the GVP or ADSG serial boards that you could connect to through a mod that could dial out to other BBS' through CNET. (I forget how many phone lines I had, it was more than 3) This was using a A2000 with a GVP Tekmagic 060 w/128 MB, 12 GB of SCSI drives and a cdrom changer ( I forget how many discs it could hold, I think it was 7, it was from Plextor)

The only thing I have left of all that is the A2000 with the accellerator, hard drives and the serial boards and the software.

I never messed with the TCP/IP but really liked CNET.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: don27dog on October 12, 2009, 10:47:26 PM
I ran Ami-Express from 88-97. At the peak I had 3 nodes ringdown and one telnet node. Towards the end it just wasn't fun anymore and I shut it all down and didn't touch an amiga for 10 + years. Then about 2 years ago I was home at my parents for Christmas and found my amiga stuff up in the attic and brought it all back with me. I have since put the bbs back online for nostalgia. 3 or 4 calls a day are a far cry back from in the day but it is fun again!
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: wiser3 on October 12, 2009, 11:48:00 PM
Quote from: irishmike;525725
Ok, now it seems I remember C-Net being kind of the BBS software of choice, but I have downloaded AMI Express and C-Net 3.05c.  On the PC side, I was good friends with a sysop who ran PC-Board.  Hopefully the AMI stuff will be as fun.

In my opinion CNet Amiga Pro was the best BBS system. Their website is here:
http://www.cnetbbs.net/
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: illy5603 on October 13, 2009, 09:09:46 PM
Don27dog is being modest folks... His board is up and better than ever!

If you wanted fidonet and all that stuffy professional stuff you went with C-net.

Of course... If you were in the scene, there was only one type of BBS to run and that was Ami-Express!

Before Ami-express I ran sigma-express, Tempest and BBS-PC! but am currently back on the old faithful!

If you want to get back into the BBS scene from an Amiga, I recommend the DCtelnet software.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: odin on October 13, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
I dabbled a bit with MaxsBBS. From what I remember it was quite easy to set up.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: MobbyG on October 13, 2009, 09:21:38 PM
I currently have a CNet Pro BBS configured and setup, but it's currently offline because I have little time to run it. But if you want to access it, PM me and we can hash out a time I can have it running for you.

It's also setup for FidoNet and AmigaNet networks. Both of which are active even today.

The BBS's website is http://bbs.amigaz.org
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: actung_bab on October 13, 2009, 11:18:42 PM
l ran cnet version 4.26 was a great amiga bbs package only thing it didnt support well was cdrom support etc a bbs program inside cnet wasint well done as 3rd party add on
and my best freind ran a ibm bbs after seen mine l guess thought l can run one he can which is cool way things work . he always said the ibm ansi worked better on pcs also just the way it looked not how it ran . l brought 2 new amigas so chould better restart my bbs
but my isp provider has my ip adress is in use by some else which is werid but when type in my private ip adress l get some esle bbs in the way is there anyway can fix this as l cant get my bbs going till then and l cant change isp either ..

thanks in advance
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: MobbyG on October 14, 2009, 12:50:09 AM
Quote from: actung_bab;525890
l brought 2 new amigas so chould better restart my bbs
but my isp provider has my ip adress is in use by some else which is werid but when type in my private ip adress l get some esle bbs in the way is there anyway can fix this as l cant get my bbs going till then and l cant change isp either ..

thanks in advance


Setup an account with a dynamic ip service like dyndns.org. Works great for me. I even had my domain name pointed to it.

Then use one of the programs they suggest to automatically update your IP if it changes.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: illy5603 on October 14, 2009, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: actung_bab;525890
l ran cnet version 4.26 was a great amiga bbs package only thing it didnt support well was cdrom support etc a bbs program inside cnet wasint well done as 3rd party add on
and my best freind ran a ibm bbs after seen mine l guess thought l can run one he can which is cool way things work . he always said the ibm ansi worked better on pcs also just the way it looked not how it ran . l brought 2 new amigas so chould better restart my bbs
but my isp provider has my ip adress is in use by some else which is werid but when type in my private ip adress l get some esle bbs in the way is there anyway can fix this as l cant get my bbs going till then and l cant change isp either ..

thanks in advance

Unless you are paying for a private IP address then you don't have a private IP address. You are in a POOL of dynamically assigned IP addresses. Do as the poster above stated and you will be fine. Don't worry about your IP address, just get your domain setup and let their utility track your IP address changes and route your domain name over through dyndns.org. Of course you will have set your home router / firewall up to NAT port 23 (telnet) to the system running your bbs.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: RRunner on October 14, 2009, 12:57:34 PM
I ran a BBS for about 5 years from 1990 to 1995. The system received about 100 calls a day on an A2000 with GVP 030/40 running CNET v3.05 I think it was. The A2000 is still working and is sitting in my basement however the HD went on it. I did manage to BA k it up to my PC and was able to boot it up with WinUAE. As an avid BBS'er of the 90's, it is my opinion that CNET was one of the best out there as far as BBS programs go.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: actung_bab on October 15, 2009, 12:54:52 AM
thanks buddy l did try that b4 but just went to same bbs running wildcat hehe l did end up typing some naughty words as login hehe l try it again though thanks for advice really appriecated lots
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: actung_bab on October 15, 2009, 12:57:40 AM
thanks to you also l will try this know l did try this site l must done something wrong will give it another go and post back here l got very old network card in the amiga 2000 and just brought massive accton ethernet hub 24 s damm thing powered am sure dim light when l power it on oh must be slighty mad to try this oh yeah l like amigas go figure hehe
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: Gary McCulloch on August 15, 2010, 01:08:02 PM
Quote from: MobbyG;525873
I currently have a CNet Pro BBS configured and setup, but it's currently offline because I have little time to run it. But if you want to access it, PM me and we can hash out a time I can have it running for you.

It's also setup for FidoNet and AmigaNet networks. Both of which are active even today.

The BBS's website is http://bbs.amigaz.org

What happened to your BBS?  Put it back up dude!
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: Duce on August 15, 2010, 02:57:24 PM
Was always partial to Zeus BBS, which is hands down the most powerful Amiga BBS package I ever used, and I used most of the commercial ones (Cnet, DLG, Xenolink, E!, and finally Zeus).

Also liked DLG BB/OS as well, was very quick - and has been released (with source) for free now.

Zeus runs fairly well on the SAM as well, where as DLG doesn't at all really on it.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: tlgrooms on August 15, 2010, 06:04:43 PM
I ran several Amiga BBS programs from '86 - '95.  Started out with BBS-PC! and then moved to Paragon which later became Starnet and finally MEBBBSNet before the author quit supporting it.  Moved on to Excelsior then before shutting down in 1995 when I moved an the calls just quit coming in.

Miss those days and would like to set up a telnetable bbs.

Tim Grooms
Former SysOp of The CIA Amiga BBS
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: Duce on August 15, 2010, 08:29:27 PM
Hehe, small world.  I recall being a user on your BBS ages ago.

E! was likely the most stable BBS program I ever ran, the support just petered out.  I'm getting a lot of enjoyment out of running a BBS on an old PC with a stripped down XP install running WinUAE, easier than ever and no messing with dodgy old hardware.  I wouldn't recommend using a SAM machine for a BBS these days, sadly.

With UAE, networking is there, the backend windows support is there to do weekly aminet mirrors for the BBS, as well as being able to use the net for FTN/UUCP vs. mailers, website, etc.

It's quite stunning to be able to run a 4 node telnet BBS on a mini-itx rig via WinUAE.  Trip down memory lane without fighting with old gear.  I'd recommend it wholeheartedly for anyone that misses the old carrier whistles and squawks.

I need to do up some kind of modern FAQ for old Amiga sysops wanting to get back into the hobby, there's still 2 BBS packages (Zeus and CNet) that seem well supported, and DLG BB/OS is entirely free now, C source available for DLG.  Wish more of these old BBS authors would release their source so we could get a BBS program that runs well on the modern PPC/OS 4.1 (or MorphOS) platforms.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: tlgrooms on August 15, 2010, 08:54:36 PM
I've got a PC I leave on all the time that would be perfect for this.  What BBS software are you using?  Any tips for setting it up?  tnx.

That's cool you remember this BBS and actually used it.  It was pretty popular for a while.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: Gary McCulloch on August 15, 2010, 11:51:19 PM
I ran C*Base BBS on my C64 and Cnet when I went to Amiga.  I did try some others that I can not even remember their names, but CNet is bar far the best I have found.  The biggest baddest BBS on the Clarksville, Tn FT. Campbell KY area back then was Okie Bug BBS that ran CNet.

BTW, welcome tlgrooms & Duce to RoF.  Hope you guys call regularly!
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: Tenacious on August 16, 2010, 12:13:15 AM
Quote from: odin;525870
I dabbled a bit with MaxsBBS. From what I remember it was quite easy to set up.


Me too.  I put some time into customizing pages and features.  It was easy.  When I began to get serious about dedicating a phone line, everyone seemed to be jumping to the net.  Thanks a lot, Al Gore.  Grin.

IIRC, Maxx'sBBS was free.
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: illy5603 on August 19, 2010, 12:46:02 AM
Quote from: tlgrooms;574864
I ran several Amiga BBS programs from '86 - '95.  Started out with BBS-PC! and then moved to Paragon which later became Starnet and finally MEBBBSNet before the author quit supporting it.  Moved on to Excelsior then before shutting down in 1995 when I moved an the calls just quit coming in.

Miss those days and would like to set up a telnetable bbs.

Tim Grooms
Former SysOp of The CIA Amiga BBS

Hi Tim,

I just wanted to say that I still have my old BBS-PC! install running on my A1200 but it is not connected to Telnet like Ami-Express is. I log on locally sometimes just to re-read old threads.

If I remember correctly, BBS-PC! had trouble with modems faster than 2400 bps and could not handle RTS/CTS correctly.

Like another poster mentioned, your BBS sounds familiar...
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: neofree on August 19, 2010, 01:37:27 AM
C-Net is probably the "best" as far as most well known and good apps, features etc.

Excelsior! was a C-Net-like BBS program that was pretty good..  In ways it shined over C-Net, but is lesser known.

Trinity is a simpler BBS program that I found that was pretty good too..

I may someday write a new one, but no telling when...
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: illy5603 on August 19, 2010, 07:21:39 PM
Quote from: neofree;575324
I may someday write a new one, but no telling when...

What the community really needs is someone to work on the rather shoddy telnet implementation in some BBS software. I don't know about C-Net but my Ami-Express hangs all the time due to the telnet / Miami DX combo...
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: neofree on August 20, 2010, 01:09:25 AM
illy5603:

Have you tried telnetd.device?  Worked flawless for me...
Title: Re: BBS Software
Post by: Gary McCulloch on August 20, 2010, 04:48:13 AM
I love CNet.  I been tinkering even with CNetv12 on a C64 emulator.  Anyways, with the CNet Amiga Pro v5.10e that I use, I use telnetd.device also.  Works very well.