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Title: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 05, 2009, 05:28:03 PM
Hello. I installed os 3.9 in winuae, and for some reason the icons are all on grey squares:

(http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3752/wtfamiga.png)

I also installed amiga forever, and it does not have this problem. What do I do to fix this? Also, how do I set the workbench as background as default? I go workbench>background, but every reboot it changes back.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: swift240 on October 05, 2009, 05:42:31 PM
Right go to Prefs/Workbench and choose no border.


Mike.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 05, 2009, 06:36:16 PM
That doesn't appear to exist. I picked No titlebar, but that also had no effect:

(http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7049/wtf2.png)
I have two more problems: what am I supposed to use to watch the videos on the 3.9 cd, and how do I set it up to play audio cds? workbench recognizes the disk, but clicking on it has no effect.

The included cd player gives this error: Could not find a CD-ROM drive. Please use the options DOSDEV or DEVICE and UNIT to provide the device to which the CD-ROM drive is connected to.

This is a real pain, and until i scrape the cash together for a sorted 1200 rig from amigakit i'll have to put up with this. any ideas?
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: swift240 on October 05, 2009, 08:59:24 PM
Well ok you see Prefs/Workbench where it says Border Size? click on that and choose no border.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 05, 2009, 09:29:49 PM
That fixed the screwed up icons, Thanks for that.

Do you have any idea about making the workbench set as backdrop default? It keeps going back to being a window every time I reboot the amiga.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: davideo on October 05, 2009, 09:38:22 PM
Quote from: Hell Labs;524787
Do you have any idea about making the workbench set as backdrop default? It keeps going back to being a window every time I reboot the amiga.


Put mouse in top left hand corner of Workbench. Right mouse click and select backdrop.

Then look for the Window menu item and select Snapshot all.

Next time you boot up the window will be gone.

Dave G
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: swift240 on October 05, 2009, 10:21:25 PM
Yeah i was gona say that next, but yeah thats the way to go.............
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 05, 2009, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: davideo;524788
Put mouse in top left hand corner of Workbench. Right mouse click and select backdrop.

Then look for the Window menu item and select Snapshot all.

Next time you boot up the window will be gone.

Dave G


This has absolutely no effect. And you don't need to tell me where the menu bar is and how to use it, I do actually know how to use a computer. However, I am pretty used to operating systems that work the way a sane human would expect.

I've noticed that snapshotting doesn't actually work on this thing for some reason. Probably need to get to the bottom of that first.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: davideo on October 05, 2009, 10:44:28 PM
Quote from: Hell Labs;524793
...And you don't need to tell me where the menu bar is and how to use it, I do actually know how to use a computer. However, I am pretty used to operating systems that work the way a sane human would expect.

I've noticed that snapshotting doesn't actually work on this thing for some reason. Probably need to get to the bottom of that first.


The trouble is with quick short questions - you've no idea of the other person knowledge ;-)

It wasn't meant the way you took it.

I've heard of other users having problems with snapshot under emulation but I can't think what the answer was.

Dave G
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: carvedeye on October 05, 2009, 10:54:17 PM
Quote from: swift240;524792
Power Tower Amiga 1200, Mediator SX,Fast Ethernet, Voodoo3, Sound card, 40gigHD, DVD rom, DVD burner dual layer, 17" Compaq, Apollo Turbo Mk-III-030/40 32meg Fastram, HP Deskjet 810C.


Hi dont mean to go off topic here but been looking at your siggy and was wanting to know what resolution you use on your miggy with your specs as i have just ordered a mediator from amigakit to add to my towered 1200 got all the other hardware like voodoo 3, ethernet, soundcard, accelerator curently got only 8meg card but gonna upgrade to 32 meg accelerator card.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 05, 2009, 10:59:15 PM
Well, bugger. You wouldn't happen to know anything about getting audio cd's to play, would you? PlayCD just pretends that it can't see the drive, and workbench won't open it.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Thomas on October 06, 2009, 07:49:10 AM
You main problem is that you didn't access the OS 3.9 CD with Amiga CD-ROM drivers during installation, but added it as a harddrive directory. Because of this CD drivers have not been installed or installed incorrectly, some files have not been copied and most of the other files are marked write protected now.

In order to install OS 3.9 correctly, you should first create an emergency disk, then unprotect all files on the emergency disk and adjust the CD drivers to point to the correct CD drive. Then remove the CD drive from the list of harddrives, boot from the emergency disk and access the CD only through the drivers on the emergency disk.

Then you can install OS 3.9 without any problems. And with working CD drivers and sound.

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 06, 2009, 02:28:17 PM
Quote from: Thomas;524833
You main problem is that you didn't access the OS 3.9 CD with Amiga CD-ROM drivers during installation, but added it as a harddrive directory. Because of this CD drivers have not been installed or installed incorrectly, some files have not been copied and most of the other files are marked write protected now.

In order to install OS 3.9 correctly, you should first create an emergency disk,


Right.

Quote from: Thomas;524833
then unprotect all files on the emergency disk and adjust the CD drivers to point to the correct CD drive.

How? I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark, and say i'm going to have to use the CLI?
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Thomas on October 06, 2009, 04:45:05 PM
http://thomas-rapp.homepage.t-online.de/os39uae.html

See step 17.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 06, 2009, 05:09:02 PM
Just reinstalled it, fixed every problem except cd playing. Dunno if this is because windows 7 is an annoying piece of shit that barely can play cds itself, or something on the amiga side I have no idea. Hopefully I can get enough time to scrape off this install of win7 and put good old xp back on soon.

EDIT: I closed winuae then opened it later on, and it reset my saved configuration to something else entirely. WTF.

EDIT2: Now for some reason my AmigaOS cd has a read/write error in winUAE when I click on the installer (i want aweb). Every other file works, wtf.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Thomas on October 06, 2009, 07:12:16 PM
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Now for some reason my AmigaOS cd has a read/write error in winUAE when I click on the installer (i want aweb). Every other file works, wtf.


Repeat steps 19 and 20 from my guide with the CD driver on your boot drive (sys:devs/dosdrivers/emergency_cd)

You might want to rename emergency_cd into CD0 first for convenience.
Title: Re: Some odd winuae problem with os3.9
Post by: Hell Labs on October 06, 2009, 08:08:35 PM
Quote from: Thomas;524887
Repeat steps 19 and 20 from my guide with the CD driver on your boot drive (sys:devs/dosdrivers/emergency_cd)

You might want to rename emergency_cd into CD0 first for convenience.

Now the installer works, that's great. Thank you.

I still have this problem:

(http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/8043/wtf3.png)

Also, using action player to watch a video results in a freeze. No guru, but it doesn't respont to mouse/keyboard input at all. I can still CTRL+AMIGA+AMIGA though.

I'll check my hardware then report back.

EDIT: my cd drive is plugged in tight, No loose wires... I will try with another audio cd.

EDIT2: windows media player works perfectly by microsoft standards of perfectly... the amiga still gives that error window then quits the cd player. this is really annoying.

EDIT3: clicking on the audio CD icon in workbench launches playCD with no error. It all works but there is no sound! Clicking the playcd icon in amidock still makes the error.