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Title: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on September 19, 2009, 01:55:01 PM
As the title says anyone got a spare working A2000 motherboard, or wants a non booting but powers up A2000, may need capacitors replacing, and it's an HD version, without the CArd or HD.

From Flash,

PS would ned collecting in person and cost for the kit and caboodle  ;-

PPS I had to remove battery and clean components with appropriate isoprpyl alcohol
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on September 24, 2009, 03:50:56 PM
Any knowledge out there if an NTSC version of Motherboard, accepts the Pal chips etc to make Pal acceptable.


Many thanks

Flash
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: save2600 on September 24, 2009, 05:09:51 PM
All A2000 mobo's are capable of displaying both PAL and NTSC displays. Just need a 1mb Agnus chip and you can switch between the modes using software. And IIRC, some (maybe all?) revisions of the mobo even have a system timing PAL/NTSC jumper (50hz/60hz) you can also set for which mode you prefer to be native.
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: redrumloa on September 24, 2009, 05:12:12 PM
I think I have one for $15 + shipping. Works except RTC does not work, even with battery installed.
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: desantii on September 24, 2009, 09:54:40 PM
Flash, if you don;t want it Ill take it. How much is shipping to 60543?
 
thanks
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on September 25, 2009, 03:50:17 PM
Hi what's this 60543?
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on September 25, 2009, 03:52:34 PM
Hi Red,
What's the cost of shipping, by the way I'm in UK or 51st State?
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: desantii on September 25, 2009, 03:52:44 PM
Zip code for Oswego, IL
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on September 25, 2009, 03:53:42 PM
Hi Save2600,

Many thanks for info, I knew it would be possible.
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on September 30, 2009, 03:34:19 PM
Anyone with an A2000 HD card then?
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Darrin on September 30, 2009, 04:09:29 PM
Quote from: save2600;523848
All A2000 mobo's are capable of displaying both PAL and NTSC displays. Just need a 1mb Agnus chip and you can switch between the modes using software. And IIRC, some (maybe all?) revisions of the mobo even have a system timing PAL/NTSC jumper (50hz/60hz) you can also set for which mode you prefer to be native.


Yep, my ECS A2000 has the PAL/NTSC Agnus which can be set via a jumper.  It was an NTSC board, and required a joint to be cut and then a jumper would toggle it between PAL and NTSC (I leave it set on PAL).  I'll have to check what revision the mobo is and only certain Agnus chips do both PAL and NTSC.
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: rkauer on September 30, 2009, 07:38:42 PM
The only Agnii (plural for Agnus if my Latin is not dead...) who are PAL/NTSC "agnostic" are:

 8372A (1Mb from A500/A2000)
and
 8372AB (2Mb from A3000) <-this one is pin-compatible with A2000, IIRC
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on October 07, 2009, 03:45:32 PM
Where do you find this jumper to switch from PAL to NTSC, and can you answer me what the switch on the back of the machine does, I thought that would switch to PAL etc
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Darrin on October 07, 2009, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: Flash;524982
Where do you find this jumper to switch from PAL to NTSC, and can you answer me what the switch on the back of the machine does, I thought that would switch to PAL etc


The PAL/NTSC jumper is unfortunately located under the PSU, towards the back of the mobo.  I'll have to scan online to look for the instructions I found to do the mod.  I have 2 switched on the back of my A2000:  One is the black on/off switch and the other is for my Amber Card (A2320 card installed in the video slot on the far right).  What switch do you have?
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Darrin on October 07, 2009, 04:52:47 PM
here:

J102:  This jumper if available configures the A2000 for NTSC, or PAL operation. Agnus 8370, 8372A, 8372AB for example, support switching between NTSC and PAL. Rev 6.4 motherboards and possibly later revisions come with an 8375 Agnus by default which does not support switching. It was made in in separate versions for PAL and NTSC.

My board is a Rev 6.2.

There's a chance that the switch you mention may have been added by the previous owner to turn on/off DF1 or disable extra RAM:

J301:  This jumper is closed to add a second internal floppy drive, open to leave the second floppy out of the main unit box. The Amiga expects an ID bit stream from each floppy drive; this lets it determine the drive type. External floppies have this ID circuitry on board, but as it's not an industry standard capability, it has to be implemented on the A2000 motherboard to save cost on internal drives. Leaving the jumper open prevents the Amiga from seeing the ID sequence.
J500:  This jumper is used to enable the 512k of RAM at $C00000 and the real-time clock. It is normally closed; opening it will disable both this extra RAM and the real-time clock.
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on October 09, 2009, 02:40:04 PM
hi Darrin,

Conflicting reports, amber monitor or extra ram I have a ram card in, but may not be functional board and card had rusted slightly until cleaned, but always powers so PSU is working, floppy drives power so some of the motherboard is functional, can only assume capacitors damaged or requires HD card. Was told in one place an Amiga HD 2000 model requires the card or battery to function, and have removed the battery.
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Darrin on October 10, 2009, 12:40:14 AM
Quote from: Flash;525231
hi Darrin,

Conflicting reports, amber monitor or extra ram I have a ram card in, but may not be functional board and card had rusted slightly until cleaned, but always powers so PSU is working, floppy drives power so some of the motherboard is functional, can only assume capacitors damaged or requires HD card. Was told in one place an Amiga HD 2000 model requires the card or battery to function, and have removed the battery.


My A2000 is missing the battery and works fine so it is not a problem (The A3000 onboard SCSI needs the battery to save it's settings).  The RAM board is either a RAM expansion card like the Supra Corp 8MB card I have, or you have a really old B2000 board (like my first Amiga 2000) where 0.5MB was on the mobo and the other 0.5MB was on a Zorro card.  An Amiga 2000HD model is simply an A2000 with a SCSI card fitted and it will work perfectly well with the HD card removed.  Some SCSI HD cards have extra RAM on them (my A2061 SCSI card has an extra 2MB and a set of jumpers where it can be configured as 2MB, 1MB, 0.5MB or 0).  Also be aware that there is a maximum RAM limit of (IIRC) 8MB you can add via the Zorro 2 slots.  Try adding more and you might find cards fail.  Also, some cards fail if you try and add the maximum 8MB and in those cases you may need to set jumpers on the RAM cards to reduce the RAM).
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Flash on November 02, 2009, 03:18:15 PM
Hi Darrin,

How about the extra ram card how does this affect operation?
Title: Re: Wanted working A2000 Motherboard
Post by: Methuselas on November 02, 2009, 03:34:10 PM
Quote from: Flash;523947
Hi Red,
What's the cost of shipping, by the way I'm in UK or 51st State?


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