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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: lorddef on November 03, 2003, 09:49:57 PM
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4 x 33MHz 040s (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2569367961&category=36332&rd=1)
:-)
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If anybody... and I mean anybody mentions... well, you know what... I will personally shoot them.
:-D
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Pity they are in the UK.
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If anybody... and I mean anybody mentions... well, you know what... I will personally shoot them.
Dont worry, i wont mention mi......*kapow* *smack* *punch* :crazy:
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talking of mi.. hmmph mmmph ..ec, I was watching Some Mothers Do Have Em yesterday, Frank Spencer remind you of anyones avatar on a.org ? :-D
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Nyyyyaarrrrrgghhhhh!!!!
:destroy:
Defender of the Faith, mo fo!
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Do you go looking for obscure threads in order to bump your post count or something? ;-) :-D
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No... honest ;-)
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"If anybody... and I mean anybody mentions... well, you know what... I will personally shoot them."
Let me put on my bullet proof vest and ask: do they make the grade? :-D
Stew
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what are y'all talking about? Those OBVIOUSLY are Not Military Grade. I mean, that's so not purple ceramic, nice golden leg pins though. You guys do NOT know what you are talking about!
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*runs away from the crossfire*
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Just...
NO!
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I'd love one, if you've got a military grade A4000 to go with it, or will I have to go to Doom Master for that?? :-D :-D :-D :-D
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Chris, you want loan of that chain cannon?
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If anybody... and I mean anybody mentions... well, you know what... I will personally shoot them.
not sure what you mean but i bet there not ............ :-D :-D :-D
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Chris, you want loan of that chain cannon?
Hey Karlos, is that chain cannon military grade?? :-P
Okay, okay, I'll stop now.
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downix wrote:
Pity they are in the UK.
You need 030s? I have an 030/25 and a 030/40, plus a bunch of crystals. Just figure out what else you need before you make the drive again :-D
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To lorddef:
I personally do NOT use the 68040 processor. They tend to over-heat and are not reliable enough for me. The 68030, 68050, and 68060 are better processors, the 68030 being the highest quality and best built of all the 68000 Series. The 68010, 68020, and the military-spec 68000 are also high quality, very well made processors. Sorry, but the 68040 is the worst of all the 68000 Series processors, so I do not need the ones you are selling. I have a 68040 board that I want to trade for the Commodore 68020 or 030 board. :-D
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68050? :-? You have to share some of that stuff you're smoking.
That said, the 68040 isn't bad. It's much more powerful than the 68030 but they do run a bit hotter. Although, I wouldn't say they overheat because a standard passive cooler will cool them just fine.
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DoomMaster wrote:
the 68030 being the highest quality and best built of all the 68000 Series.
Umm, did you pull this one straight out of your ***? What facts do you have to back this up? I agree that a chip with fewer transistors would be more reliable in general. But, we're talking years of advancing technology that would assume the newer chips are made better than the old ones?
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Karlos wrote:
Chris, you want loan of that chain cannon?
Why, yes please Karl.... ;-) How kind!
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@ DoomMaster
I thought I had lost a couple of marbles then, but no:
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/motorola+68050 (http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/motorola+68050)
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To adolescent:
But, we're talking years of advancing technology that would assume the newer chips are made better than the old ones?
In general, newer stuff is LOWER quality then the older stuff. For example, look at todays modern cars. They are made out of plastic and tin. They are low quality pieces of crap, and yet most people are stupid enough to buy them. Why pay $15,000 to $30,000 for a new car, when you can buy a high quality car or truck from the '50s and '60s for a lot less money. Then you would have a vehicle to really be proud of, like me. I only drive nice old cars. Todays modern cars and trucks SUCK !!!! In the same way the older processors are actually nicer then the newer ones. They may not be as fast, but they will out-work and out-last any newer processor. Today most people are always in a hurry. I myself am NEVER in a hurry. I take my sweet time and live life to the fullest. :-D
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To mikeymike:
Ok my mistake. There is no such thing as a 68050 processor. Sorry. :-D
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Ok my mistake. There is no such thing as a 68050 processor. Sorry
But you said it's much more reliable and spouts out much less heat than an 040, surely if you know this then it must exist?
DoomMaster, why do you do this?
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DoomMaster wrote:
To mikeymike:
Ok my mistake. There is no such thing as a 68050 processor. Sorry. :-D
NO! NO! Don't give in! :-P
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In general, newer stuff is LOWER quality then the older stuff.
Such as ICs compared to valves, I assume you mean too?
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I doubt he'll reply now, you've challenged him.
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@ that_punk_guy
Btw, that's a really sickly avatar you've got there :-)
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DoomMaster knows all, the knowledge of the 68050 being a possible upgrade of the 68040 is warrent enough for all to hail him as the new king.
I actually love his posts, as its like a familiar sight on my way to work.
so these processors worth buying?
im currently putting 2 A1200s in custom cases and hoping to boost up the one that just has the 8Mb ram and fpu accelerator thingy doodah.
i really want a 1260. anyone got any for sale? i dont see the point of going PPC as im gonna get a pegasos II. anyone gonna comment on the reasons behind why i should go for AmigaOne rather than Pegasos?
:-D i will hide as these worms may be squirming out of this can.
ideal world i would have both, but AmigaOne prices r still rather high
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Doommaster, your opinions are noted. But, don't try to pass off your personal feelings as fact. "In general", process improvements and technological advancements create better products. Can you show me a car from the 50s or 60s that gets 60 MPG? How about one that doesn't polute the environment even?
Anyway, back on topic. I wish this auction was around when I bought my 040. I think I paid $300 for the CPU alone. :-o
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mantisspider wrote:
so these processors worth buying?
That depends if you have something to put them in. You can't just plonk them in an A1200, they need to go on a suitable expansion board. Basically, they're useful if you've already got an '040 board but the CPU itself is dead.
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I do it for FUN !!!! :-D
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"For example, look at todays modern cars. They are made out of plastic and tin. They are low quality pieces of crap, and yet most people are stupid enough to buy them."
As an old guy that bought cars from the 60's new ( well 69 Chevelle) you don't know what you are talking about. I have several muscle cars that we are restoring or have restored. None of them will go much over 100k miles reliably when daily driven as hard as newer cars. I have a Mazda RX7 with over 200k miles that is still driven daily (hard) by my son. My last work truck (94 chevy) had close to 200k when I sold it and bought a 2000. It never needed any repair except an altenator. It got much better fuel milage, with great towing power, than any of my other trucks I have owned ,including a 69 ford. Your mil grade and toy 1200 is funny but the car comment shows ignorance of modern advances in the auto industry. Do you remember points and all the other associated maintence hassles?
BTW the muscle cars interiors are still alot of vinyls and plastic! Of course our 58 Buick isn't :-D
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Ok my mistake. There is no such thing as a 68050 processor. Sorry.
That proves that you are not but a big Troll!
I do it for FUN !!!!
I sure am starting to get tired of it
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i cant put them in a 1230 board? 68040 in a 1230 board = 1240 ? wishful thinkin?
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Yes, wishful thinking I'm afraid.
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68050....
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Fuel Injection Fuel Injection Dammit!
Can you show me a car from the 50s or 60s that gets 60 MPG?
Can you say Crosley Hotshot, good, now say it five times fast ;) . Crosleys are these pretty tiny old cars, 40s or 50s, there are three, a sports coupe, a mid size (well, they're all tiny, but I think the non-sports one had a top or maybe 4 seats? And there is a truck, which my Uncle has, supposed to get 52Mpg tops, two seater and a real tiny flat bed. Still runs...
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DoomMaster has been caught hook, line and sinker part 3! :-) :lol:
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Aside from the trolling and squabbling - I think cars are a good analogy with Amigas - many drive older cars because they happen to like them...they have more character, and were possibly way ahead of their time. Like my 1986 Toyota Supra for example....hmm wonder if the censorship will block out analogy....ANAL, analogy, analogous.
HOMO, homogeneous, homogeneity. homo sapiens....
edit: well I was wrong to assume that they would be censored :-D
edit again: hey, we can say 'assume' again! But can we sit on our asses or arses? Perhaps riding an ass to market may cause some guffaws... ;-)
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mikeymike wrote:
@ DoomMaster
I thought I had lost a couple of marbles then, but no:
http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/motorola+68050 (http://www.hyperdictionary.com/computing/motorola+68050)
But there IS a 68070 made by Philips.. It's a 68000 with an MMU + a DMA controller and two serial ports.. Used in the Philips CDi machines. :-)
(slower than a 68000 I believe)
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DoomMaster wrote:
I personally do NOT use the 68040 processor. They tend to over-heat and are not reliable enough for me.
You really can't help exposing your shocking ignorance of virtually anything, can you? Simply sticking remarks in upper case does not make them true and does not mean you are speaking with any authority.
I have used a 68040 processor in my amiga since 1996 and never experienced any thermal instability. I now have 2 68040 powered systems and both run cool.
As for the '68050', :roflmao:
Also, how can you complain that an 040 runs too hot when you have a Pentium IV based PC?
Where's the emoticon for 'p*ss myself laughing' ?
Finally, in my experience, the 50MHz 68060 runs cooler than the 50MHz 68030. No doubt the static 3.3v design helps there. As an electronics expert, surely you know that?
There is also a 3.3v 68040, it just hasn't been used in any amiga processor expansion to my knowledge.
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I personally do NOT use the 68040 processor. They tend to over-heat and are not reliable enough for me. The 68030, 68050, and 68060 are better processors, the 68030 being the highest quality and best built of all the 68000 Series. The 68010, 68020, and the military-spec 68000 are also high quality, very well made processors. Sorry, but the 68040 is the worst of all the 68000 Series processors, so I do not need the ones you are selling. I have a 68040 board that I want to trade for the Commodore 68020 or 030 board.
Theres nothing wrong with the 040 there a lot better than an 030 mine on my blizzard ppc has never overheated even after 8 to 10 hours use . :-)
Still on 50 pence thats a bargain at the moment. I would have put a reserve on them not long ago these would cost a fortune. :-) :-) :-)
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DoomMaster wrote:
I do it for FUN !!!! :-D
Probably the most accurate remark youv'e ever made. I must confess, I fail to understand how portraying oneself as the one of the most over-opinionated, tactless, self-aggrandizing, know-nothing retards ever to (dis)grace the forums provides any amusement.
Oh well, to each their own.
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Karlos wrote:
DoomMaster wrote:
I do it for FUN !!!! :-D
Probably the most accurate remark youv'e ever made. I must confess, I fail to understand how portraying oneself as the one of the most over-opinionated, tactless, self-aggrandizing, know-nothing retards ever to (dis)grace the forums provides any amusement.
Oh well, to each their own.
spot on
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Karlos wrote:
I fail to understand how portraying oneself as the one of the most over-opinionated, tactless, self-aggrandizing, know-nothing retards ever to (dis)grace the forums provides any amusement.
Absolutely. Hope you're feeling better today :-)
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by DoomMaster on 2003/11/4 3:04:30
I do it for FUN !!!!
. . .for the fun of who?
Don't amaze yourself if people do not consider you or worse laughs of you!
You have a problem, you know!
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The problem with DM is that he's becoming (or is) a regular. The good thing about people like Shawn 'THEONE' the Busarchtroll is that they post only (very) infrequently, thus their posts stay fresh and funny. Whereas DM's posts are just a nuisance.
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@mikeymike
Off topic,
It looks as though you could do with a vacation.
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LOL, the best part is that DM is actulay right. the 040 run hot and not nearly as good as the 060's.
not going to buy his crap but....
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lol.. cool thread
But some facts....
8-)
A link to the short history of the 68000 series CPUs:
68K CPUs (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/680x0.html)