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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Drummerboy on September 07, 2009, 07:35:32 PM
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Hello,
Some body know about NetSurf Browser if This Browser its only for Amiga OS 4.0?, or exist any Version for Amiga 3.X?..
Regards
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two indipendent ports exists for amigaos 4 and 3.x. 3.x is a sdl port and as far i know its currently under development. just have to look for last public version myself.
edit: hmm, hope this is last public version:
http://aminet.net/comm/www/netsurf-m68k.lha
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ok.. thanks..
i will check
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Ok,
I Installed a NetSurf Browser, but when i try to start, the HD load and after some seconds, happen nothing, not load anything.
You know you can see when are trying to load how the Netsurf take some of memory, but after some seconds, the taked memory are realese.
Somebody know what are happening?
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Not enough memory? The 3.x port is a memory eater, and it is hungry! Don't bother trying to run it with less than 64Mb, 128Mb is a must, here.
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Not enough memory? The 3.x port is a memory eater, and it is hungry! Don't bother trying to run it with less than 64Mb, 128Mb is a must, here.
I run it under winuae with the memory set to 64MB. No probs here.
@Drummerboy
Check if you have the right version of ixemul.library & ixnet.library installed. V61 is required to run netsurf2. Also check if you've installed usergroup.library.
x303 :D :D :D
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netsurf doesnt work on 24bit screen depth. this is your probllem certainly. and as for ram it should start with 16mb. not that an memory eater as owb.
edit. do you have gfx card at all? sdl apps will not work on amiga screens.
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Next release will work on all screen depths and will have install script with all necessary files.
It has a lof of improvements and will be released probably next week.
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@X303
Yeah, i have thats librarys installed.
@wawrzon
I use Amiga the Common Screen, i not have any GFX Card, maybe this is the problem!
"Next release will work on all screen depths and will have install script with all necessary files. It has a lof of improvements and will be released probably next week."
@_artur
Thats sounds Great!!!.. Please let know us where is available.
In this moment i having hummbles 16MB, becouse my memory die.. then maybe in think memory, but if with 16MB run, then sure are the Screen Mode.
Anyway, thanks for the answers, and i will stand by this new release for all Amiga Screens
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Does this mean it will work in 4bit screendepths? I run my Workbench in 16 colours and would love a CSS capable browser. Or is AGA still not supported due to it using SDL?
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Does this mean it will work in 4bit screendepths? I run my Workbench in 16 colours and would love a CSS capable browser. Or is AGA still not supported due to it using SDL?
Yes, SDL on AGA doesn't work. I think that if SDL for AGA was made it would be too slow.
Even now on GFX it isn't very fast. Edit: (On real Amigas I mean.)
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@Cammy & __artur
If an AGA specific version could be written it could use autoscrolling instead of blitter-based layers for its window scrolling capabilities but it would still run out of Chip RAM in an awful hurry if it was done this way.
I've wanted to experiment with making full-screen windows that use autoscrolling instead of using the blitter to move things but it's been pushed so low on my priority list that I doubt I'll ever get around to it. Maybe if the Natami comes out or something I can look into a SuperAGA native web-browser.
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Nice to hear a new release is on the way!
One minor thing I would like to have is the possibility to run Netsurf on an own screen.
regards selco, http://selco.da.ru
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I read on amigaworld.net that somebody did that.
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Tried it but it does not work in 3.9 (Amiga 4000)
A black window opens and closes and that is all.
Guess that SDL is missing.
I downloaded and copy the SDL.librayr into libs only to get the same results.
Guess that I should do some compiling @ SDL?
Is there an installer for SDL? And a link to the last OS 3.9 version?
Thanks.
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Since SDL of version 1.2.13 for m68k you don't need SDL.library.
Do you have GFX?
Please always read requirements in readme.
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Well, I got it to work on 68k (using 3.9 on WinUAE)
Finally! I accidentally copied "usergroup.library" into LIBS: even though I knew (and read 20 times) that it was suppose to go in AmiTCP:libs.
It's very fast (Amiga OS is set to 1GB ram ;-) )
Works fine in both 16 and 32 bit. Only real problem I have is entering text into a field. (Like here on Amiga.org) I can't see the text in real time. I can type a word then scroll the text field off the screen and then when it comes back the the text I typed is there. Really really hard to type like that! But it's so fast and nice to be able to access CSS sites so far.
Keep up the great work!
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Since SDL of version 1.2.13 for m68k you don't need SDL.library.
Do you have GFX?
Please always read requirements in readme.
Got a PicassoIV Gfx card. I will re check the readme although I think my system has all the required stuff. It is an Amiga 4000 with CyberStorm PPC, Picasso IV Gfx, Paloma TV Card and Deneb USB card, 80Giga Hard Disk and a DVD-RW Drive.
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It now works. I should have gone to 16bit mode.
Great work for 3.9 but still a little bit slow. OS4 version is faster.
Would be great if 3.9 version could become a little faster.
Thanks for the software anyways!!!!! Keep up the good work!
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is this a wonder that os4 version is faster? even your 604 ppc has sure few more mhz than your 060 even if this was not the only thing that counts? mg, it becomes really boring to preach to all the complainers to switch from 24 to 16bit again and again. artur, will you release the new version already, so that it stops?
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Works fine in both 16 and 32 bit. Only real problem I have is entering text into a field. (Like here on Amiga.org) I can't see the text in real time. I can type a word then scroll the text field off the screen and then when it comes back the the text I typed is there. Really really hard to type like that!
That is hopefully fixed in new version which I just uploaded to Aminet.
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cool, cant wait till it has arrived.
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That is hopefully fixed in new version which I just uploaded to Aminet.
It works. I can see as I type this!
Great work!
(using 68k version on WinUAE OS3.9)
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having set workbench to 16 bit netsurf opens a 32bit fullscreen with a yellowish taint, assume it must be argb, since it is the pixelformat that always gives this effect with sdl based apps on my voodoo, switching between screens gives strange color artefacts sometimes. i would propose to use bgra mode as default if possible. is it possible to set it somewhere? not in options file at least.
edit: have first rendering issues but will report directly to the netsurf dev team. all in all seems workig nice, even scrollbars are mouse draggable now. some solution for fast scrolling would be a major step forward, but probably not within sdl, i wonder how its done on ibrowse?
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Anyone get the new version working on their PIV? The previous one worked great in 16-bit... (what I run my WB in anyway).
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im afraid it will not work at this time. the new netsurf works only on 32 bit screen depth. if the worbench is set to lower than that netsurf opens its own 32 bit screen. picasso doesnt support depths beyond 24bit afair which would be the reason why netsurf fails to start. using uae is easy to forget about it.
edit:btw, another bug, that has been there all the time i recall. the tcpip stack has to be run before the netsurf. otherwise netsurf will not establish connection,if miami was ran afterwards. can anyone confirm?
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I had a feeling that might be the case... thx for confirming.
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@__artur
Beautiful! At last, i can browse UniCoded sites under AmigaOS 3.x! Now, typing non-latin characters is another matter that i have yet to resolve, but i don't think it's a problem of NetSurf since i can't do it in OWB either.
Adding copy/paste support in the next version would be nice. Also, text cursors are invisible. I don't know if this supposes to happen.
@wawrzon
I confirm the yellowish tint issue.
Edit: Damn.. No-go for me. :( I have tested it twice and it freezed after 1 minute of browsing in both times. Just the app, not the OS. The site i tried to browse is not a factor.
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didnt have a crash or freeze as yet. the context cursor is ugly?!;P
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Great work, but I think that I found a bug.
This site eats 256MB of RAM and still don't have enough:
http://www.onet.pl
Maybe this is a generic problem and happens also under AOS 4 version, someone should test. :afro:
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I always get a message "base stylesheet failed to load" in thw bottom line of the window after loading some kilobytes. Any idea whats wrong here or how to find the problem? I am using WinUAE with bsdsocket-emulation and 32 Bit screen. The problem seem to occure on any website I try to load.
I still have an older version of Arturs Netsurf here (3.7.2009 svn), that works fine.
Edit:
Just tested it again: The old version loads always the FIRST website correctly (tried many different pages), all following pages show the same error message (base stylesheet failed to load"
@Artur:
Could you add a version information into netsurf? Just that we know what version/release we are talking about.
Best regards
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I download the new Version 3.0 available in AMINET, but when i try to run show me this error
"unable to init SDL:No Available Video Device".
Its like i not have Graph Card, in fact i not have, but i think this version support all Native Amiga Video modes. Righ?
If somebody know what is this error, please let me know.
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I download the new Version 3.0 available in AMINET, but when i try to run show me this error
"unable to init SDL:No Available Video Device".
Its like i not have Graph Card, in fact i not have, but i think this version support all Native Amiga Video modes. Righ?
Wrong. It should support all modes from the gfx card. SDL doesn't handle native modes.
x303 :D :D :D
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Wrong. It should support all modes from the gfx card. SDL doesn't handle native modes.
x303 :D :D :D
WHat do you mean?.. need? a GPX Card?
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Yes.
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WHat do you mean?.. need? a GPX Card?
The readme file says:
Minimum requirements:
* AmigaOS 3.x
* P96 / CGX
* Graphic card that can display 32 bit screen depth
x303 :D :D :D
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youtube page rides the browseer/system down to the bone. all memory has been used, ixemul wants me to free somthg. now i know for what one needs more than 128meg. lol.
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Great work, but I think that I found a bug.
This site eats 256MB of RAM and still don't have enough:
http://www.onet.pl
Maybe this is a generic problem and happens also under AOS 4 version, someone should test. :afro:
It is a generic problem. On OS4, I have 512MB here and that site got me down to 512KB and killed my mouse (the mouse problem is obviously an OS4 bug). Swap partition appeared to be being utilised. I closed the page and memory shot back up to around 200MB (unplugged and reconnected my mouse to get that working again!).
Nice to know the low memory/swap is working correctly for NetSurf under OS4.1, but that page obviously has other problems - please report it to NetSurf developers (in the bug tracker linked from http://www.netsurf-browser.org)
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It is a generic problem. On OS4, I have 512MB here and that site got me down to 512KB and killed my mouse (the mouse problem is obviously an OS4 bug). Swap partition appeared to be being utilised. I closed the page and memory shot back up to around 200MB (unplugged and reconnected my mouse to get that working again!).
Nice to know the low memory/swap is working correctly for NetSurf under OS4.1, but that page obviously has other problems - please report it to NetSurf developers (in the bug tracker linked from http://www.netsurf-browser.org)
Thanks for confirmation, bug reported.