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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Matt_H on August 14, 2009, 01:03:59 AM
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Via Amiga-News.de (http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2009-08-00024-EN.html)
Sued by their ex-landlords! Vast sums of money owed!
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Ah for **** sake.
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At these days anyone here waits some positive from amiga inc?
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We wait for them to be positively out of Business....
At these days anyone here waits some positive from amiga inc?
(http://www.frogpondmedia.com/dbv/cover_ntsc.jpg)
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Too bad they didn't run their business (err....rest on their laurels) in a basement
or garage ;-)
I couldn't believe it the other day... stopped by a strip mall to pick up some cigars,
when I noticed a popular Thai place (overpriced noodles douched down in curry is not
my cup of tea) in town was evicted for the very same reason.
'Take the money and run' is no longer just a great Steve Miller tune... it's a way
of life! lol
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who expected anything good from AI? Well, its entertaining to watch this train wreck.
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Maybe this will finally see them disappear and leave someone with more business sense to buy the name.
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Maybe this will finally see them disappear and leave someone with more business sense to buy the name.
Yeah, the new Commodore! :-D
(But they seem to know nothing about the Amiga.)
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Maybe this will finally see them disappear and leave someone with more business sense to buy the name.
I'd rather it just be Hyperion and MorphOS Devel. Competition brings out the best in both OS's. AI just seems to slow things down.
-Alex
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Aw sh1te!! This will SURELY slow down AmigaOS5 development :P
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AmigaOS5 ?? :-) Yes it will be a linux distro with a Amiga looklike windows manager.
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Lol I get so tired of AI and thier BS. I remember all the times Bill Mcdumb@$$ and floss moss made these promises and dreams, yet never produced jack, except what a couple junky phone games. I think that these jokers have been the worst smudge on the Amiga name. Too bad I really loved this computer and still love my Amiga's but i just can't help but get rather angry at how it has been treated the past 15 yrs and how so much advanced potential was thrown out the window for a few minutes in the spotlight. I sure Bill and company will actually do one thing GOOD for the Amiga and let Hyperion or someone who actually wants it to be something again take it over or buy it.
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AmigaOS5 ?? :-) Yes it will be a linux distro with a Amiga looklike windows manager.
Although, assuming that AmigaOS gets that far, will Hyperion skip the number 5 for fear of association with Amiga Inc's "plans"? :)
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(http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/the_leander/633633747865585832-karma.jpg)
Is all I have to say.
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Best news I've heard in quite a while.
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Taken from the article:
Inception Group is entitled to get the owed money (about 150,000 USD) aswell as an interest of about 7000 Dollar.
That's a LOT of money for Amiga Inc. I guess this means that they are toast? If yes, will Amiga Inc. be for sale afterwards? How does this work?
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Theoretically, they should have been toast years ago. They'll probably just create another shell corporation to escape the debt.
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They'll probably just create another shell corporation to escape the debt.
Is that legal?
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Is that legal?
Probably not, but it'll take another lawsuit to prove it.
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Probably not, but it'll take another lawsuit to prove it.
It might be worth it for $157,000...
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It would be nice if these guys would just finally go out of business so we could have some closure around here!
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I hope this finally marks the end of McEwen and Ainc.
I'd like to see Hyperion or Acube take the rights.
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Yeah, that's good news to me.
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Via Amiga-News.de (http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2009-08-00024-EN.html)
Sued by their ex-landlords! Vast sums of money owed!
Good luck with getting a dime out of Amiga Inc.
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AmigaOS5 ?? :-) Yes it will be a linux distro with a Amiga looklike windows manager.
We already have that :D http://xwinman.org/amiwm.php
157,000 what the hell were they renting? how long does that work out for? that has to be a year? or more?
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Isn't it funny how these days bad news for AInc seems to suggest good news for the Amiga :rolleyes:
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Amiga should be able to be run from a $1000 a month storefront or Industrial park back lot.Or maybe from someone's home office in the basement ,garage or den.
Seriously ,what has Amiga,Inc done in the past decade?E-sales of phone games doesn't need more than a file server.
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I hope this finally marks the end of McEwen and Ainc.
I'd like to see Hyperion or Acube take the rights.
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Does this mean that we can expect the Amiga trademark to be up for bid via bankruptcy court soon????? I wonder who will buy it and for how much. The saga continues!
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I feel sorry for them and think this is very sad news.
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I feel sorry for them and think this is very sad news.
What has Amiga Inc. done for you lately/ever?
Genuine question. I'm curious as to what you see worthwhile in them.
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Why does anyone really care, anyways? I mean, besides Hyperion, as since this is a case won against Amino and that just makes their case against AI being insolvent more believable.
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@Matt_H
they did as much for me as any other Amiga-related company lately.
excuse my ignorance, but hasn't Amiga brand been re-sold several times after Commodore?
So, Amiga Inc. were in bad position at the very beggining.
If they are in such problems then noone good will consider buying them and continuing the Amiga story.
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Best news I've heard in ages ! :) For the Amiga that is...
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excuse my ignorance, but hasn't Amiga brand been re-sold several times after Commodore?
So, Amiga Inc. were in bad position at the very beggining.
When the current owners bought Amiga there was still an opportunity to do something with it. At that time there was still a large enough Amiga following that large publishers were still wiling to produce magazines and there was still a decent sized software market. By having these losers buy it, and do absolutley nothing with it appart from probably just use it to show off to friends, put the world in the position where Amiga has not really moved forward anywhere as much as it could have. I'm not saying it could have been put back to the market share it once had, but when you look at what Apple has achieved in recent years I can't help but wonder "what if".
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you almost laugh when stood outside that ces convention trying very hard to look like they had something worth while to sell . l think del boy whould be better in charge amiag inc
to be honest l say those 2 long done can you imagine fleccy being able to keep big gob shut for all these years the guy was motor mouth
l suprose to be fair they where ideas men trying to get people with knowledge and captial to flock to them . if it worked we be calling them genius and next steve jobby and be droooling over there ever word isint life funny the truth is somewhere inbetween l guess
people are people not gods and make mistakes trouble is we all want some kind mircle all of us
if they came out said okay guys we made some mistakes and just talk honestly we all go oh thats cool bill , aghh nah we say u sux you clown hehe
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157,000 what the hell were they renting?
I remember an interview where Mcewen was giving a news guy a tour of their offices. It sounded like a big building.
The had a foosball table and things to play when they weren't working.
Looks like they had a lot of equipment too, here's some items that were auctioned off:
http://www.murphyauctions.net/amiga.html
Here is some of the non-computer stuff... (inlcuding the foosball table!)
Assortment of UMAX & HP 4C scanners, D-LINK & LINKSYS hubs, LINKSYS DSL router, LIVINGSTON 2E & 3 switches, NEXSTATION web TV box, RCA combination TV/VCR, paper shredders, CARD SCAN 500 card scanner, POLYCOM SOUNDSTATION conference phone, SENTRY safe, lateral files, file cabinets, 2-door metal cabinets, drafting tables & chairs, whiteboards. bookcases, refrigerator, foosball table, misc. office supplies & much more!
Here is an interview with Mcewen (after they were kicked out and stuff auctioned off)
http://polarboing.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=24
He says, "We need to get a new office first and check it is big enough for a
foosball table."
Seems like they just sort of blew all their cash on stuff. Never came out with a single product. (No I don't consider the "SnowMan" maker an actual product)
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Why does anyone really care, anyways?
Amiga trademark & classic rom rights.
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Royalties to Amiga Inc from Cloanto probably didn't cover half of Mc Ewen's cocaine bill.
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cocaine maybe hes swtiched to p insteed cheape l hear hehe
downgraded from hummer to a moped
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@koaftder
While none of us here has much sympathy for the man, I think that message is out of order (and against the amiga.org TOS).
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@koaftder
While none of us here has much sympathy for the man, I think that message is out of order (and against the amiga.org TOS).
Not to mention the damage it could do to the reputation of cocaine!
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Not to mention the damage it could do to the reputation of cocaine!
:roflmao::laughing:
Classic :D
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Great stuff!..lol:roflmao:
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I wonder if GVP might be interested. :)
What about Cloanto? If i become a billionaire, maybe i should own it....what a dream :)
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I remember an interview where Mcewen was giving a news guy a tour of their offices. It sounded like a big building.
The had a foosball table and things to play when they weren't working.
Looks like they had a lot of equipment too, here's some items that were auctioned off:
http://www.murphyauctions.net/amiga.html
Here is some of the non-computer stuff... (inlcuding the foosball table!)
And no Amiga's listed in the auction!
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They sure had some equipment there to produce nothing :)
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@bloodline
And the protitutes. Lawsuit no.3 maybe? Prostitues of new york vs william wallace III, (Here by willywally .III) damages seeked for ireprubale damage to the reputation of prostitutes all over the world.
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I remember an interview where Mcewen was giving a news guy a tour of their offices. It sounded like a big building.
The had a foosball table and things to play when they weren't working.
It has to be a few years, i cant imagine it costing more then 5-10 thousand dollars a month. But yep, this proves that they were as solvent as a dodo. I'd be surprised if he gets way without jail from all this, there were some weird transfers back and forth from itek (etc.) and ainc too i remember someone pointing out. Seems they got 2 million dollars for something, weird thing is that they didnt pay their bills with it, they just fucked it all away, as far as i can remember it was from selling the rights to os4 or parts of it, rights they didnt even own.
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If amiga Inc have gone bust ? Why don't the issue a statement and let the community know what's going on, yet again we're in
the dark!
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If amiga Inc have gone bust ? Why don't the issue a statement and let the community know what's going on, yet again we're in
the dark!
Because all their stuff has been repossessed I bet! Nothing to produce a press release on... not even an A500!
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It's not looking good for them ...
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/amiga.com
Shame that :lol:
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If amiga Inc have gone bust ? Why don't the issue a statement and let the community know what's going on, yet again we're in
the dark!
They probably put it on usenet, under the assumption nobody uses it anymore. ;)
I seriously don't understand why anyone here really gives two sh!ts? Back in 1999, I was a believer in AI and they've done nothing but continually disappoint us, time and time again. What does it matter? They need to just declare bankruptcy already.
Fools!
:laughing:
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who expected anything good from AI? Well, its entertaining to watch this train wreck.
I think the train wrecked long ago and they are still clearing the tracks :laughing:
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It's not looking good for them ...
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/amiga.com
Shame that :lol:
amiga.org is worth more :D
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/amiga.org
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So is moobunny!
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/moobunny.dreamhosters.com
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It's not looking good for them ...
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/amiga.com
Shame that :lol:
On a serious note, based on that link, anyone want to write a 10k check for THIS Web site? It's at least functional and has an audience... :)
Wayne
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On a serious note, based on that link, anyone want to write a 10k check for THIS Web site? It's at least functional and has an audience... :)
Wayne
Is that 10K US$?
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Is that 10K US$?
As I'm US based, then yup... :)
No, I won't ship it to your in West Africa (reference craigslist scams)
No, I'd prefer not to give 12% to Paypal.. :)
Wayne
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As I'm US based, then yup... :)
No, I won't ship it to your in West Africa (reference craigslist scams)
No, I'd prefer not to give 12% to Paypal.. :)
Wayne
HAhahaha! :-)
Ok, so for £6,039.39 I could get myself this very site!!! Quite exciting!
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HAhahaha! :-)
Ok, so for £6,039.39 I could get myself this very site!!! Quite exciting!
If you want it -- and keep in mind that you'd have to cover the money changing fees to make my 10k USD, then just write me the check and I'll pay off my credit cards and be a very, very happy man.
Wayne
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Ah the Nigerian scams, I still get a message a day about a business proposal involving hundreds of thousands/millions of US Dollars. I think they first appeared over a decade or two ago...
Oh, the the mispelled letter with bad grammar from the Federal Bureau of Investigations, it was a hoot the first time, but after the 30th it ceases to be funny.
As I'm US based, then yup... :)
No, I won't ship it to your in West Africa (reference craigslist scams)
No, I'd prefer not to give 12% to Paypal.. :)
Wayne
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If you want it -- and keep in mind that you'd have to cover the money changing fees to make my 10k USD, then just write me the check and I'll pay off my credit cards and be a very, very happy man.
Wayne
I wonder if anyone would like to syndicate with me? :)
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I wonder if anyone would like to syndicate with me? :)
Ummm. buddy? The ADULT forums are on a more explicit site. With whom you choose to "syndicate" falls under TMI... :)
Seriously though, as I've said for years, the site could use some fresh blood.
Wayne
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@wayne: you call that sceptic with next to 10000 posts fresh blood?
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@wayne: you call that sceptic with next to 10000 posts fresh blood?
I get the point, but the fact is that I spend more time running in the background around here than I have available to post any more.
Not that ANY of this has to do with the subject at hand, sorry to be OT.
Wayne
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Ouch, c64.org has the whole lot beat....
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/c64.org
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Ouch, c64.org has the whole lot beat....
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/c64.org
Looks like all those flame wars over at ANN.lu are paying dividends!
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/ann.lu (http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/google.com)
WOW!!!!
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Looks like all those flame wars over at ANN.lu are paying dividends!
http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/ann.lu (http://mywebsiteworth.com/site/google.com)
WOW!!!!
Har dee har har har.
:)
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On a serious note, based on that link, anyone want to write a 10k check for THIS Web site? It's at least functional and has an audience... :)
Wayne
I checked the value of Amiga.org using the linked site last night and it was only valued at half of your 10k asking price. Did something happen recently to cause it to drop that much, or did it not really show a value of 10k the last time you checked it there? Just curious about how that valuation site works and why there would be such a difference between then and now.
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The value of this website has halved ? I guess a lot of people realised that if bloodline takes over, there will be a membership requirement list as follows:
1. Must own Apple computer
2. Must own iPhone
:roflmao:
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I checked the value of Amiga.org using the linked site last night and it was only valued at half of your 10k asking price. Did something happen recently to cause it to drop that much, or did it not really show a value of 10k the last time you checked it there? Just curious about how that valuation site works and why there would be such a difference between then and now.
The main reason I guess for the price difference is for all the blood, sweat and tears Wayne has put into getting this site where it is today.
10k for this place? Worth every penny, without a shadow of a doubt!
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I guess a lot of people realised that if bloodline takes over, there will be a membership requirement list as follows:
1. Must own Apple computer
2. Must own iPhone
Sounds fair :p
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I checked the value of Amiga.org using the linked site last night and it was only valued at half of your 10k asking price. Did something happen recently to cause it to drop that much, or did it not really show a value of 10k the last time you checked it there? Just curious about how that valuation site works and why there would be such a difference between then and now.
The site that you're referring to is a gimmick, nothing else. While it reports a value for a domain, said value is only based on Alexa rank and what it sees as visitors based on traffic. Where it gets those values, no one really knows.
What it doesn't take into account are more important variables such as;
- registered user base
- active web site? (several spam domain search sites bring in millions of hits, so just counting traffic is irrelevant)
- the content on the web site
- the design, layout, and other work done on the site
- the loyalty of the installed user base
- any copyrights, copyrighted, or trademarked materials on the site.
In short, valuing a site may seem simple, and granted, ANY site is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, but anyone who even remotely suggests that there isn't $10,000 worth of inherent value in this 15 years worth of collected works we call Amiga.org simply doesn't know enough to appreciate the years of blood, sweat, and tears we've all (to some extent) put into it.
Wayne
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The value of this website has halved ? I guess a lot of people realised that if bloodline takes over, there will be a membership requirement list as follows:
1. Must own Apple computer
2. Must own iPhone
:roflmao:
Don't be silly... You forgot to add the electropop requirement too..
:P
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Don't be silly... You forgot to add the electropop requirement too..
I'll get me coat.