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Title: Help with X-Surf 3cc IDE Port
Post by: efrenmgp on August 13, 2009, 03:43:28 PM

Hello everyone!

I bought a used X-Surf 3cc (it has only one 3.5" IDE port) but it came with no software. I downloaded XSurfIDE v104.1 (http://www.jschoenfeld.com/support/support_e.htm) from Individual Computer's site and installed it in the Expansion Directory but it freezes the computer every time. I took it off and tried to execute it separately from the startup process and the same happened.

Then I read AmigaKit's description for this card (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=32&products_id=250) and it says that the IDE port can be activated by the IDE-fix Software package, so I downloaded IDEfix97.lha from Aminet and Installed it but still, nothing. The device to be used (AFAIK) should be xsurf_atapi.device.

BTW. The card shows fine in Early Startup.

Surely I'm doing something wrong, but I'm lost. Does anyone have a clue?

My computer is:
A4000D with a Cyberstorm 060/PPC
Picasso IV graphics card
Deneb USB card
9GB UW SCSI HD (connected to the Cyberstorm)
IDE CD (connected to the X-Surf) - the one I cannot use
AmigaOS 3.1

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!!!

Efrén

Title: Re: Help with X-Surf 3cc IDE Port
Post by: Thomas on August 13, 2009, 04:58:26 PM

Does XSurfIDE have an icon ? Everything in the Expansion drawer needs an icon with vendor/device IDs in the tooltypes, otherwise it won't work.

Try to run XSurfIDE without any device connected to the X-Surf IDE.

Try to run XSurfIDE with a HDD connected to the X-Surf.

If the HDD works then then CD drive is incompatible. Note that the IDE port on the X-Surf is not fully featured. It only works with a limited range of devices.

Title: Re: Help with X-Surf 3cc IDE Port
Post by: efrenmgp on August 13, 2009, 05:32:36 PM

Hello Thomas!!

It has an icon but I haven't checked its tooltypes, I wasn't aware of that. I'll check it tonight after work. Also I'll check different combinations as you suggested.

Thanks for your help!

Title: Re: Help with X-Surf 3cc IDE Port
Post by: efrenmgp on August 14, 2009, 01:36:20 AM

Hello!

I checked the tooltypes and yes, it has them and they seem to be correct (same vendor/device id as in showconfig).

I disconnected the IDE cable and XSurfIDE didn't hang, so I was able to check the available devices and there it was: xsurf_atapi.device! yeeaahh :)

Then I connected an old Quantum IDE HD. XSurf didn't hang but HD Toolbox didn't find it. It searched scsi.device and 2nd.scsi.device... No devices found

Then... I connected a new Western Digital IDE HD. This time the computer hanged but not immediately after executing XSurfIDE, but while HDToolbox was scanning 2nd.scsi.device

I guess I'm out of luck and I don't have compatible devices :(

Thanks again!!

Title: Re: Help with X-Surf 3cc IDE Port
Post by: Fats on August 14, 2009, 07:24:16 PM

Quote from: efrenmgp;519151

Hello!

Then I connected an old Quantum IDE HD. XSurf didn't hang but HD Toolbox didn't find it. It searched scsi.device and 2nd.scsi.device... No devices found

I think you have to tell HDToolbox to scan xsurf_atapi.device via a tooltype.

greets,
Staf.