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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: kickstart on August 04, 2009, 04:00:53 AM
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I wrote this here because morphos section its closed at least for me, and the others post about this are lost in time.
Well title says everything, any news about macmini? any hope? by charity! =)
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I would say that the chance of this happening diminish day-by-day....sorry.
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I wrote this here because morphos section its closed at least for me, and the others post about this are lost in time.
Well title says everything, any news about macmini? any hope? by charity! =)
It's coming along nicely, thanks for asking. Just one or two things left.
"Patience, my padawan learner"
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I wonder if it would work on my 1.42ghz eMac? Pretty much identical hardware inside.
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I would say that the chance of this happening diminish day-by-day....sorry.
Why would you say something so ........... uninformed?
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I can understand to novacoder, no news= bad news, but like piru said, morphos is advancing, please dont use this post for wars or "i know more than you". With all of respect.
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Why would you say something so ........... uninformed?
They don't make any new PPC mini's so obviously the available HW decreases day-by-day, hence my comment ;)
Don't get me wrong though, I've got nothing against MorphOS so respect to the developers if they can port it to new HW platforms :)
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They don't make any new PPC mini's so obviously the available HW decreases day-by-day, hence my comment ;)
Don't get me wrong though, I've got nothing against MorphOS so respect to the developers if they can port it to new HW platforms :)
What does the fact that discontinued Mac hardware availability is constantly decreasing due to eventual hardware failures have to do with MorphOS for the MacMini ever being completed by the MorphOS dev team?
Thousands upon thousands of PPC MacMini's were probably produced, I have not taken the time to research a final number of sales, but I think that the supply of used PPC MacMini's will satisfy the demand from the MorphOS community of, what, 500 to 600 current users and maybe if we are really optomistic, that number could double, or more, with the release of MorphOS on the MacMini and still there would not be a shortage of G4 PPC MacMini computers, unless you think all the old PPC MacMini's are being sent to the trash bin.
I have seen so many people post negative comments about MorphOS being ported to used and discontinued hardware instead of something new, but I vigorously disagree with this sentiment, as I see the MacMini port as the most logical, quick port to do while waiting for better hardware to become available, or to try to gain some additional users and additional performance beyond the Pegasos1&2 and Efika to tide us over until the dev team can complete a port to a better hardware solution (hopefully new hardware that is still available). Given that MorphOS is a PPC OS, it just made sense to port it to another PPC hardware platform and the MacMini gives a performance boost over the Pegasos2, while offering a low cost to find and buy.
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Precisely, there are enough old PPC Mac minis that every one that wanted to run Morphos or AmigaDos 4.1 could have two in every room of their house, their neighbour's house and their neighbour's neighbour's house and not make a dent in the supply. We're a small community and we all know one another. It's the myth that somewhere there are millions and millions of potential Amiga users that jiggers the argument. Where these mystical magical potential users are I don't know, but somehow they get factored into every argument...
What does the fact that discontinued Mac hardware availability is constantly decreasing due to eventual hardware failures have to do with MorphOS for the MacMini ever being completed by the MorphOS dev team?
Thousands upon thousands of PPC MacMini's were probably produced, I have not taken the time to research a final number of sales, but I think that the supply of used PPC MacMini's will satisfy the demand from the MorphOS community of, what, 500 to 600 current users and maybe if we are really optomistic, that number could double, or more, with the release of MorphOS on the MacMini and still there would not be a shortage of G4 PPC MacMini computers, unless you think all the old PPC MacMini's are being sent to the trash bin.
I have seen so many people post negative comments about MorphOS being ported to used and discontinued hardware instead of something new, but I vigorously disagree with this sentiment, as I see the MacMini port as the most logical, quick port to do while waiting for better hardware to become available, or to try to gain some additional users and additional performance beyond the Pegasos1&2 and Efika to tide us over until the dev team can complete a port to a better hardware solution (hopefully new hardware that is still available). Given that MorphOS is a PPC OS, it just made sense to port it to another PPC hardware platform and the MacMini gives a performance boost over the Pegasos2, while offering a low cost to find and buy.
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Looking on Ebay for London Area, found this one for £25
Item no.:270437635833
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good news?
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@NovaCoder
Offtopic....cool avatar!
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@NovaCoder
Offtopic....cool avatar!
Thanx :)
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It will most likely be ready just the time I get my first pension :hammer:
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It will most likely be ready just the time I get my first pension :hammer:
no shit sherlock!
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Hope you are near retirement. =)
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Hope you are near retirement. =)
At finnish pensionrate, in about 40 years
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You arent in the 40s, lets wait morphos sooner than your retirement.
Your post #303 nice number =)
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I think it makes perfect sense to port MorphOS to PPC mac. There's loads of old mac kit kicking around.
It would be rather nice if OS4.1 were ported too.
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I think it makes perfect sense to port MorphOS to PPC mac. There's loads of old mac kit kicking around.
Well, the second hand PPC Mac market is the last possible PPC option they can utilize, before jumping either to x86 or ARM.
BTW, some of the new features in the MorphOS 2.3 release clearly indicates the move towards Mac hardware, which I find to be quite assuring! :-)
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..maybe I'll hold off on throwing all of these G4 machines in the lake, then!
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@ tone007
OT: Is that *your* Mustang in that avatar of yours?
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Indeed it is.
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Cool. Always liked Mustangs, and been dreaming of one myself. Both "old school" and "NG" ones, for different reasons! (a bit like the Amiga perhaps ;-))
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Here's the rest of it: http://jungle.net/tone/c64car.jpg
Yeah, it's one of the few cars I've had that I wasn't bored with in a couple of months.
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Here's the rest of it: http://jungle.net/tone/c64car.jpg
Yeah, it's one of the few cars I've had that I wasn't bored with in a couple of months.
get a Vette... you'll never be bored... :)
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One of the late 70s/early 80s Stingray models is kind of on my list, but they're the only ones that catch my eye and old cars are a pain I've dealt with too often.
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I miss my Opala.... (sniff)
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I think it makes perfect sense to port MorphOS to PPC mac. There's loads of old mac kit kicking around.
It would be rather nice if OS4.1 were ported too.
Hmm, that would be nice. I have an old iMac G4 (iLamp) my brother is currently using. I'd be thrilled to see some Amiga-like OS running on this thing of beauty.
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I think it makes perfect sense to port MorphOS to PPC mac. There's loads of old mac kit kicking around.
It would be rather nice if OS4.1 were ported too.
Amen to that! Now that we have AmigaOS4.1 released for the Pegasos, maybe one of the next targets will be one of the G4 PPC Mac models.
If Hyperion really wants to impress me and get me to seriously consider switching from MorphOS to AmigaOS4.x, all they have to do is port AOS4.x to a G4 PPC Mac model that is faster and better than the lowly MacMini. Not too much to ask for and without anything better than the SAMep and SAMflex boards available right now, why not port AmigaOS4.x to one or more of the old PPC Mac's?
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I can get a kitted out 2.5 GHz dual G5 power mac for roughly the same price as a bare Sam board...
(http://www.computerarts.co.uk/__data/assets/image/9802/powermac_302.jpg)
Amen to that! Now that we have AmigaOS4.1 released for the Pegasos, maybe one of the next targets will be one of the G4 PPC Mac models.
If Hyperion really wants to impress me and get me to seriously consider switching from MorphOS to AmigaOS4.x, all they have to do is port AOS4.x to a G4 PPC Mac model that is faster and better than the lowly MacMini. Not too much to ask for and without anything better than the SAMep and SAMflex boards available right now, why not port AmigaOS4.x to one or more of the old PPC Mac's?
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EXACTLY! I would be interested in AmigaOS4.x and/or MorphOS2.x, or 3.x on one of those and would like to see Hyperion and/or the MorphOS developer team include support for the G5 and multiple processors in future versions someday, but I am afraid that by the time multiprocessing could be coded into either of those OSes, we will all be too old to care and ALL of the G5 PPC Power Mac towers will be so old that they will no longer boot up. Our old Amiga systems have lasted 20+ years and still boot, but I doubt that any G5 systems will be able to say the same 15 years from now. We all have dreams of a more modern and powerful AmigaOS4.x or MorphOS2.x, or 3.x system.
I can get a kitted out 2.5 GHz dual G5 power mac for roughly the same price as a bare Sam board...
(http://www.computerarts.co.uk/__data/assets/image/9802/powermac_302.jpg)
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One of the late 70s/early 80s Stingray models is kind of on my list, but they're the only ones that catch my eye and old cars are a pain I've dealt with too often.
hehehe... I used to have oldER cars that I fixed up. twin turbo 85 camaro puttin down 700rwhp, 505 BBC in the car before the twin turbo setup, 68 Camaro w/a 383 sbc + 6-71 blower. After a while I got tired of old cars. I wanted something with a/c, smooth ride and can put down some quick 1/4 ET's so I got my vette. It has all the bolt-ons + a cam kit, currently at 446rwhp. I'm piecing together a nitrous kit and it'll be bottle fed 125hp :)
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hehehe... I used to have oldER cars that I fixed up. twin turbo 85 camaro puttin down 700rwhp, 505 BBC in the car before the twin turbo setup, 68 Camaro w/a 383 sbc + 6-71 blower. After a while I got tired of old cars. I wanted something with a/c, smooth ride and can put down some quick 1/4 ET's so I got my vette. It has all the bolt-ons + a cam kit, currently at 446rwhp. I'm piecing together a nitrous kit and it'll be bottle fed 125hp :)
I am in negotiations for a 1971 VW Karmann Ghia coupe that needs lots of work. If I ever have the money and do get the car, I would like to flip the trans to make it a mid-engine and either build a high performance VW motor, or install a turboed Subaru or Mazda Rotary and wildly customize the rest of the car. Since I live in Big Bear Lake, at about 7,000 ft. above Sea level I don't need A/C. Windshield defogging/defrosting might be a bit of a challenge, but I doubt I would drive it in the Winter anyway.
Might be a fun mountain road ralley style of fun car. It amazes me that there is still an active aircooled VW industry and community. My Son's first car is a 1971 VW Beetle project car we are chopping into a Baja Bug and should be ready to use by next Spring. I am enjoying the nostalgia of working on old VW's again. Goes hand-in-hand with my nostalgic Amiga collection. Guess I am just a retro kind of guy.:lol:
Edit: If I had the money for a Vett, it would have to be a 1963 split rear window model.
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Do you have to have a particular version of the PPC MacMini that will work with MorphOS or will any of them do as long as it's the PPC?
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I am in negotiations for a 1971 VW Karmann Ghia coupe that needs lots of work. If I ever have the money and do get the car, I would like to flip the trans to make it a mid-engine and either build a high performance VW motor, or install a turboed Subaru or Mazda Rotary and wildly customize the rest of the car. Since I live in Big Bear Lake, at about 7,000 ft. above Sea level I don't need A/C. Windshield defogging/defrosting might be a bit of a challenge, but I doubt I would drive it in the Winter anyway.
Might be a fun mountain road ralley style of fun car. It amazes me that there is still an active aircooled VW industry and community. My Son's first car is a 1971 VW Beetle project car we are chopping into a Baja Bug and should be ready to use by next Spring. I am enjoying the nostalgia of working on old VW's again. Goes hand-in-hand with my nostalgic Amiga collection. Guess I am just a retro kind of guy.:lol:
Edit: If I had the money for a Vett, it would have to be a 1963 split rear window model.
nothin wrong with that :) I used to have a 62 VW Bug (ragtop). Completely restored it going with the "Cal look".. torque thrust kinda rims, lowered, all original. I put a 1641cc engine in there, nothing real radical, just a little bigger than stock. I like Ghias, especially for drag racing :)
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Do you have to have a particular version of the PPC MacMini that will work with MorphOS or will any of them do as long as it's the PPC?
Morphos for macmini will work on all version of ppc minis 1,2, 1,4, 1,5ghz, the question is how long to release =)
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@themagicm
Maybe nice cars but this is a thread of morphos for macmini, maybe private msg for vintage cars is better, with all respect.
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I'm set to plunk down some US dollars on Morphos for Mac!
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nothin wrong with that :) I used to have a 62 VW Bug (ragtop). Completely restored it going with the "Cal look".. torque thrust kinda rims, lowered, all original. I put a 1641cc engine in there, nothing real radical, just a little bigger than stock. I like Ghias, especially for drag racing :)
Karmanns are nice looking cars. Unfortunately, I'm too big to fit in one...
I'm restoring a 1966 Aero Willys. No performance in mind, I will just keep it as close as possible to factory standard
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Gosh i was about to buy one Efika MX when i NOTICED, it's not PPC.
So i guess i'll need to wait for Piru and the team to have the MOS port developed for MacMini.
I'll buy with great pleasure one of these little thingies.
However my question is, as it has been asked before, will the MOS port work on all MacMini versions we could find around? Or maybe we would need to find an specific one? Would it work on iBooks? Will it support G3 or G5 (that would open a wide arch of machines to our purposes) or just for G4?
Cheers!
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Gosh i was about to buy one Efika MX when i NOTICED, it's not PPC.
So i guess i'll need to wait for Piru and the team to have the MOS port developed for MacMini.
I'll buy with great pleasure one of these little thingies.
However my question is, as it has been asked before, will the MOS port work on all MacMini versions we could find around? Or maybe we would need to find an specific one? Would it work on iBooks? Will it support G3 or G5 (that would open a wide arch of machines to our purposes) or just for G4?
Cheers!
The first release of MorphOS with Apple hardware support will include support for *all* G4 Mac Minis (as said above). No other hardware is confirmed yet.
There was also an experimental port on the powerbook shown. *Maybe*
MorphOS will get support for this kind of devices later. But it is *strongly* suggested to not hold your breath for a powerbook version - chances are quite high you will die on oxygene shortage during holding your breath...
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So i do think we could go and grab some G4 mac mini already, isn't it? No iBook or PowerBook support at first.
Supporting ALL the G4 family is more than enough. I was somehow scared about needing to get a G4 from an specific batch or something.
I want to have this clear bec i'm going to get one of these soon, i don't want to wait to the very last moment to get one.
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So i do think we could go and grab some G4 mac mini already, isn't it? No iBook or PowerBook support at first.
Supporting ALL the G4 family is more than enough. I was somehow scared about needing to get a G4 from an specific batch or something.
I want to have this clear bec i'm going to get one of these soon, i don't want to wait to the very last moment to get one.
all the g4 family works but you should try to get the 1.5ghz model
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Gosh i was about to buy one Efika MX when i NOTICED, it's not PPC.
So i guess i'll need to wait for Piru and the team to have the MOS port developed for MacMini.
AROS should be out for EFIKA-MX by the end of the year, if not sooner.
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But if people think in purchase morphos or amigaos this efika is not the option.
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Got an 1,5ghz G4 Mac Mini here for a cheap price.
Piru and team... Your turn...
XD
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Normally I wouldn't touch a mac with a barge pole (my love/hate relationship with that particular platform is a matter of record).
However, I am quite tempted to get a G4 mac mini, what with all this MOS2 stuff. I feel my amigaos compatible collection is incomplete without MOS being represented.