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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: DoomMaster on October 31, 2003, 02:28:38 AM
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Is it possible to use a CD-Rom drive on an Amiga 2000 running Workbench 1.3? If so, What must I do, step by step. What version of AmiCDFS do I use? :roll:
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Yes I am sure you can fit a SCSI one no doubt. As for the driver / filesystem you might find its OS2.04 or above only.
Why do you want to use a CD on your Amiga2000? I find CDs are much better on their native platform...
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You're going to have trouble finding decent pre-2.0 drivers. Of course, you could just upgrade your ROMs, or get a ROM-switcher. Kick 1.3 nostalgia is all well and good, but if you want to use modern software and drivers, a 16-year-old operating system won't do.
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I think only very old versions of the CD file systems out there will work. As far as I know, there's no CD-based software for WB1.3 anyway. I'm not seeing the point of this experiment.
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Matt_H wrote:
I think only very old versions of the CD file systems out there will work. As far as I know, there's no CD-based software for WB1.3 anyway. I'm not seeing the point of this experiment.
Well, there was the A570... and CDTV. But nothing new...
Edit: Yes, I meant A570 all along ;-)
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To Karlos:
Why do you want to use a CD on your Amiga2000? I find CDs are much better on their native platform...
The CD-Rom drive in my Amiga 2500 works really well. It has Kickstart / Workbench 2.04. One of my Amiga 2000 computers has Workbench 1.3 on it. That is the Amiga that I want to use the CD-Rom drive on. I am beginning to actually like Workbench 1.3 better then 2.04, because all of my vintage games run on OS 1.3. I also think that Workbench 1.3 looks nicer then 2.04. Anyway, do any of you have a CD-Rom drive working on your Workbench 1.3 system? Just because something is older does NOT mean that it is no longer any good. For instance, most of the really good Amiga games will only run on Workbench 1.3. I can not get them to work on Workbench 2.04. :roll:
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To Matt_H:
As far as I know, there's no CD-based software for WB1.3 anyway. I'm not seeing the point of this experiment.
I now have all of my over 1000 vintage Amiga games burned to a CD-R disc. But, most of these games will only work on Workbench 1.3, so I need a CD-Rom drive on that system so I can read the CD-R disc on that computer. My Amiga 2500 reads the CD just fine, but most of the games will not run on the 2.04 OS. :roll:
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@DoomMaster,
Aw come on dude, I know imitation is the sincerest form of flattery and all that but you don't need to explain yourself...
Now I do recall you mentioning making a games compilation on CD...
One problem you may have is that many old games were designed to run from custom floppies that can boot but not be copied from amiagdos. No doubt you have seen a fair few if your vintage games collection is as extensive as you say.
Being totally serious for a moment, have you tried a package called WHDLoad? Basically it is a modular hard disk installation system that has installation patches available for hundreds of games, including all those ones that used dodgy custom boot code.
Most install patches fix the common OS1.3 <-> 2.x / 3.x incompatibilites and also common 680x0 CPU problems thus allowing you to not only install the games on your hard drive, but run them from OS2.x/3.x equipped 68040 A2500 ;-)
Try it, I am sure you will like it. What's more, you can then burn your installed games to CD for safe keeping :-)
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i used to have a really cool disk that would boot my A500+ up like 1.3, my mate had 1.3 and i would mock the way his hand was static and my disk would animate on screen. aaah dem was da days
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hmmmm... kickstart 1.3 it was called.
why dont u get one of those switches that can flip ur machine from 1.3 to whatever other version u want?
i remember they were around yrs ago.
i remember copying "kickstart 1.3" to my harddrive and running the app to restart my machine. black and white workbench screen. eeeek
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Well ... I've been using 'XETEX CDX' installer for
10 years or so. Works great, and I think I was
running OS 1.3 when I first bought it. I am about
90% sure it will work with OS 1.3.
If you can find a copy, it should work for you.
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mantisspider wrote:
i used to have a really cool disk that would boot my A500+ up like 1.3, my mate had 1.3 and i would mock the way his hand was static and my disk would animate on screen. aaah dem was da days
Its a ultility called "Relokick 1.3", worked wonders on my A600 and A2000, used to work with my A1200 but now whenever I try to use any form of KS 1.3 on my A1200, it just "green screens" and resets :-(
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@ doomy
why dont you just ........
stick parnet on on both 2000's and copy them over that way.
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Or if Parnet's too slow, put the 1.3 hard drive into the 2.04's SCSI chain, copy 'em there, and move the drive back.
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DM: sent you something which may help.
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Doomy, I agree! 1.3 does look better than 2.x+, I bet you can't wait for the 1.3 skin for AROS :lol:
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Doomy, I agree! 1.3 does look better than 2.x+, I bet you can't wait for the 1.3 skin for AROS
/ironic mode
I personally just can`t wait for Amigabasic and diskdoctor to be a part of AROS! :-)
/ironic mode off
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well my cdtv is only 1.3 but that has its own filesystem if i where you i would try finding a rom switcher and make a bootdisk for kickstart 2 with cdrom drivers and boot in workbench 2 disk copy files to you hard drive from the cd then switch to 1.3 rom and boot from harddrive . :-)
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DoomMaster,
If you got off your fat ass and just swallow your pride and just get and Amiga 1200, 3000 or 4000 then you will get none of this problems.
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Like I said....
"XeteX CDX" will install your CD Rom on OS 1.3.
I have it but I also use it so its not for sale.
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XeteX CDX info here http://www.baetzler.de/amiga/cdxcdfs.html (http://www.baetzler.de/amiga/cdxcdfs.html)
And here at google newsgroups http://groups.google.com/groups?q=XETEX+CDX&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&safe=off&selm=267il4%24rbr%40menudo.uh.edu&rnum=2 (http://groups.google.com/groups?q=XETEX+CDX&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&safe=off&selm=267il4%24rbr%40menudo.uh.edu&rnum=2)
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CU_AMiGA wrote:
DoomMaster,
If you got off your fat ass and just swallow your pride and just get and Amiga 1200, 3000 or 4000 then you will get none of this problems.
Well, it's a somewhat mute point. If he didn't want any of these problems he should go for a PC... or at least a Pegasos or an AmigaONE.
1200, 3000 and 4000 are all pretty much just curiosities now :-(
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CD-Rom drive on Workbench 1.3 ????
Sure, get yourself an Amiga 500 and A570 CD drive.
You CAN’T use a CD-Rom drive on a toy Amiga 2000 because Commodore never released "Professional CD Drive Upgrade" for it. Commodore new the A2000 was JUNK that's why they ONLY released a CD expansion for the TRUE FLAGSHIP Amiga - The AMIGA 500!!!!! :-P
I mean how can you call a computer PROFESSIONAL if the MANUFACTURER NEVER EVEN SOLD A CD DRIVE for it?
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To CU_AMiGA:
If you got off your fat ass and just swallow your pride and just get and Amiga 1200, 3000 or 4000 then you will get none of this problems.
First of all, I am not fat. I am a slender, good-looking man that should be a model. I am half English and half German and ALL European. As far as pride is concerned, if you were me, The DoomMaster, you would have a lot to be proud of, but you are not, so you just talk crap.
Second, I would never buy an Amiga 1200 computer for myself. I am smart enough to know that the Amiga 1200 is a piece of low-quality, poorly designed piece of crap. And the Amiga 3000 and 4000 will not run the vintage games.
Third, I never have any problems with my Amiga 2000 Series computers. They are very well made and have stood the test of time ! :-D
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To DoomMaster:
Why to fit a CDROM in an amiga?
As you said before "it will do better on native plataform"
....and...if you helped a lot in the soon-to-release AMiGA OS4 (which
are you making for your uique AMiGA 2000 Professional Computer
series)... why the hell are you pisseing us with that dummy
questions!!!
You have the know to teach every of us! :roflmao:
and owith the subject of the CDROM... asl your coworkers at Hyperion,
but I doubt a MILITARY GRADE CDROM was ever released for the AMIGA
PROFESSIONAL SERIES!
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First of all, I am not fat. I am a slender, good-looking man that should be a model.
ROFL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Crap I might wet myself!!!! Ohhh... brother!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:
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Doomy,
There is a version of AsimCDFS that will run under 1.3. I have it packed away somewhere. Haven't seen it in years. A 3000 may be the way to go for you. If you get one with the original ROMs (not 2.04) the early boot screen gave you an option of soft kicking into 1.3 or 2.x. Of course a rom switcher for your 2000 would do the same trick.
Your 2000's may be built like a tank but a 3000 may have been the best Amiga ever built! :-D
BTW Doomster I own 1 1000 in pieces now, 1 500, 6 2000's, 2 3000d's, 3 4000d's, and 1 4000t. The 4000t and 3000's are much better machines than the 2000's although the 2000's do put out a very good video signal out of their genlocks.
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DoomMaster wrote:
Second, I would never buy an Amiga 1200 computer for myself. I am smart enough to know that the Amiga 1200 is a piece of low-quality, poorly designed piece of crap.
So you say, but I see you utterly failed to respond to my challenge (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4797)...
And the Amiga 3000 and 4000 will not run the vintage games.
As I said earlier, why dont you save yourself a sackful of grief and give WHDLoad a spin on your A2500? I guarentee you will not be dissapointed.
If my 'nothing internal in common with A500' KS3.1 AGA based A1200T with its 040/PPC/BVision can play some of the most hardware-bashing, floppy disk only, OS1.3 games ever written via WHDLoad, I am sure your A2500 will. Try it, what have you got to lose?
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Third, I never have any problems with my Amiga 2000 Series computers.
So how come you keep asking for so much elemental help with them?
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First of all, I am not fat. I am a slender, good-looking man that should be a model. I am half English and half German and ALL European. As far as pride is concerned, if you were me, The DoomMaster, you would have a lot to be proud of, but you are not, so you just talk crap.
If everyone who is not DoomMaster talks crap, why ask them questions(silly question I know; I'm a hypocryte)?
And the Amiga 3000 and 4000 will not run the vintage games.
Shows how much you know, you dumb bastard
Third, I never have any problems with my Amiga 2000 Series computers. They are very well made and have stood the test of time !
They wouldn't run half the stuff I use
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I'm not sure of AmiCDFS's 1.3 compatibility. But, older 1.x versions of AmiCDROM worked. Also, as mentioned above the commercial Xetec works with 1.3.
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DoomMaster wrote:
To CU_AMiGA:
If you got off your fat ass and just swallow your pride and just get and Amiga 1200, 3000 or 4000 then you will get none of this problems.
First of all, I am not fat. I am a slender, good-looking man that should be a model. I am half English and half German and ALL European. As far as pride is concerned, if you were me, The DoomMaster, you would have a lot to be proud of, but you are not, so you just talk crap.
Second, I would never buy an Amiga 1200 computer for myself. I am smart enough to know that the Amiga 1200 is a piece of low-quality, poorly designed piece of crap. And the Amiga 3000 and 4000 will not run the vintage games.
Third, I never have any problems with my Amiga 2000 Series computers. They are very well made and have stood the test of time ! :-D
DoomMaster, i didn't mean you were fat literally, it was just a saying! And yes, judging by your pictures and your sexy pose in the avatar, the model world is crying out for someone like yourself! :-)
How could i be talking crap when its you that talks a crock of ####e all the time. Anyway, i have a CD ROM and CD RW on my toy Amiga 1200 and have had no problems with them whatsoever, you big gob ####e! :-)
Oh yeah, when you say you look like that GI Joe figure, do you mean genetal wise! :lol:
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I am half English and half German and ALL European.
You enjoy making people feel bad about themselves don’t you DoomMaster? You continually put people down for WHERE they're from and what type of computer to they use.
You've clearly stated before that people from America are inferior and that they have NO work ethic!
Why don't you stop stereo typing people you RACIST! You're making me and probably a lot of others that read this forums feel UNCOMFORTABLE and VIOLATED.
I'd appreciate you not making hurtful generalizations about people based on race, religion, national origin, sex, disability, age, sexual orientation, or computer choice.
I think there can be appropriate times to make jokes (in good humor) about where someone is from or gender jokes etc.. BUT NOT WHEN YOU ARE TRYING TO BE VENDICTIVE, RUDE, DEMEANING, and HURTFUL.
I would hope the next time DoomMaster makes a statement DEMANING and entire countries people that he would get MODERATED!
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amigaguy wrote:
I am half English and half German and ALL European
I would hope the next time DoomMaster makes a statement DEMANING and entire countries people that he would get MODERATED!
Actually, I think he was just stating that he isn't too happy with the fact that he is a halfbreed.
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@ odin
:-D lol :-D
That statement by itself is not offensive, but the context in which he was saying it was that if you're not European you're a twit.
He has posted in other threads about what thinks about people that are not from Europe. He has also blatantly made broad stereotypes just to insult people here and yet he never gets moderated...
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Actually, I think he was just stating that he isn't too happy with the fact that he is a halfbreed.
Really?!? All this time i thought he was a inbreed :-o
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Ok...that was a cruel joke, sorry! :whack:
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According to all those capitals and exclamation marks I think these postings totally lacks any manners or other aspects of civilization.
but to the point, if our DoomMaster is into vintage gaming, wich I am too, I can reccomend him to get AmigaExplorer and a harddisk for his A2000
cheers
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Ehmm... guys... I think that our heads need a kind of defragment here.
First of all let me make my self clear with something:
I DO NOT SUPPORT DOMMMASTERS IDEAS.
But,
None of you has the right to offend him!
His ideas is his ideas and ALL OF US have to respect them. Anybondy who doesn't like democracy, can leave this forum. Thank you! :-x
Second: Despite doommys "professional and military A2000" ideas, I happen to have 5x A2000 and 3x A1200 amigas.
One of the A2000 plays the same animation (looping) since September 1990 , never swithed off, and never had a problem!
So, let ME (I know because i own 5 of them) believe that i have a professional computer. (NOT a military though.. :-D )
Clear so far?
So, let your EGO go away and try something to help him.
THANK YOU! ;-)
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Second: Despite doommys "professional and military A2000" ideas, I happen to have 5x A2000 and 3x A1200 amigas. One of the A2000 plays the same animation (looping) since September 1990 , never swithed off, and never had a problem!
Wow, electricity must be cheap there! :-o
If I had free electric, I would like a A1000 playing
"polyscope" in the corner. :-)
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Lo: Wow, electricity must be cheap there!
No, electricity isn't cheap at all, but we are talking about a tv station.
The animation is the top-left corner logo of the station
(I have posted the same thing before):-D
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@Animagic
i agree at 1% with you . . . for the other 99%, DoomMaster has heavly broken my balls (either).
Ciao
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Framiga : i agree at 1% with you . . . for the other 99%, DoomMaster has heavly broken my balls (either).
Yea, mine too, but I still don't offend him like that!
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@Animagic
None of you has the right to offend him!
We don't? Be has the right to offend us? Saying things like:
"Americans are stupid"
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4482 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4482)
If you do try to answer a question in one of his threads you are usually greated with something like this:
'You do NOT know what you are talking about"
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4061 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4061)
"you do not know what you are talking about! "
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4091 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4091)
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amigaguy: Yea, I've read those too.
I've been offended too by doommaster.
But, I don't see any logical thinking on offening somebody because he offended me.
I think that moderatos should take it from here, and if he doesn't seem to understand it, just ban him! ;-)
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@Animagic
yes but he has offended all us, everytime he has posted something here!
He has spread gazillions of BS here and there.
If he said that:
he has worked on some secret documentations
he is a primary school teacher
he has been an employee of Commodore
and so on, with his "cloned" post, he is definitely a "tall story teller" or worse a TROLL.
Ciao
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Framiga:
Yes, I know all that. I laughed reading them asswell. I DO NOT SUPPORT HIM IN ANY WAY!
My point is that we should be more smart in here.
If all of us dont reply to his posts I think that someday he will understand.
BTW: Where the %^&* are the moderators?
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Geeky idea, but has anyone ever got an A570 working in an zorro 2 slot?
Should be possible to hack one in, probably cripple the machine though :-( .
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@Animagic
ohhh! moderators!
Moderators wake up, only if you are still offended "somene else" anf IF those "someone else" agree :-D
Ciao!!!!
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DoomMaster wrote:
I plan to ONLY use DD disks on my vintage Amiga 2000HD computers.
Just thought I would point that out on an old forum he did.
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BTW: Where the %^&* are the moderators?
Yes I can hear you. :-)
Priority One: Let DoomMaster speak. Users expendable. All other priorities rescinded.
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Animagic wrote:
Framiga:
Yes, I know all that. I laughed reading them asswell. I DO NOT SUPPORT HIM IN ANY WAY!
My point is that we should be more smart in here.
If all of us dont reply to his posts I think that someday he will understand.
BTW: Where the %^&* are the moderators?
I agree that his atitude is very condecending, but I don't think he actually means any harm.
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I dont mean that dont do what you must do.
I just call you guys to calm thing down ;-)
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mikeymike wrote:
BTW: Where the %^&* are the moderators?
Yes I can hear you. :-)
Priority One: Let DoomMaster speak. Users expendable. All other priorities rescinded.
I don't like your attitude.
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As far as pluging an A570 into a Zorro Slot..
If you are serious....
NO that won't work.
The A570 plugs onto the A500 expansion bus.
The A500 expansion slot is the same as the
CPU (fast slot) on an A2000. You could probably
hack some kind of cable to plug an A570 into
the CPU slot.. but why would you want to when
there are much better options available.
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>I also think that Workbench 1.3 looks nicer then 2.04.
Why do all the Amiga users from Oregon have to make us look like complete nuts? :-)
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>I also think that Workbench 1.3 looks nicer then 2.04.
Why do all the Amiga users from Oregon have to make us look like complete nuts?
Plus one from the UK :-) The colour scheme in 1.x looks much friendlier/aesthetically pleasing than 2.x.
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mikeymike wrote:
>I also think that Workbench 1.3 looks nicer then 2.04.
Why do all the Amiga users from Oregon have to make us look like complete nuts?
Plus one from the UK :-) The colour scheme in 1.x looks much friendlier/aesthetically pleasing than 2.x.
Actually 2 from the UK... since I'm not from oregon.
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Hi, sorry for reactivating this zombie-thread :)
XETEC does not install on my A2000 with external AppleCD300 on Impact A2000-HC+8 Series IIH SCSI-Controller
because the installer is a copy and not an original. Everything is recognized but it cannot be installed. XECTEC can
not be purchased anywhere. So what to do?
Thx
Doc
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I've just read through this thread. Where was the moderation back then?
Having said that, it just may be a tad over moderated these days, but I prefer over than under.
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