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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: sim085 on July 27, 2009, 09:32:26 AM
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Hi,
In my endless search to fill up my 2GB CF card with software - I am now looking for the best Music and Video players for Workbench 3.1 out there.
Also I was wondering what music and video do these players play?
Regards,
Sim085
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I found AccessiblePlayer (2.22) and EaglePlayer (2.1) from Aminet. I found the source code for EaglePlayer 2.4 as well but no download link :( I think EaglePlayer seems to have much more support - altough I can not understand many of the additions.
Additionally, from previous research I made I found out that is next to impossible to play mp3 music on a 68000 processor.
Is this true? and if yes then what type of music can I play?
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What kind of CPU have you got? There are some good MP3 players, plenty of MOD players and some decent video players... But MP3s require a decent cpu - video even more so. As a start, SongPlayer (the older version - written in assembler for speed) is very good for MP3s, CDs, WAVs etc., though the newer version is a little slower. DeliPlayer & HippoPlayer are apparently good for MODs (don't listen to them much myself though), and Action from OS3.9 (think its shareware name is different) does a reasonable job of video for a classic.
Edit: Just saw your post... Yes, a 68000 simply can't crunch numbers fast enough to decode MP3 at all! ideally you want a 68060 for full quality, though you might get away with an 040. Mods should be ok on a 68000, and you might try a hardware decoder such as the MAS Player to play MP3s, but even that will struggle with higher bitrates on a 68000...
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Thank you for the information - yes mp3 was always out of the question for me! Maybe I can find some songs I like in Midi or Mod format :)
I guess there is no video under a 68000 processor either right!?
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Nope... Video is more processor-intensive than MP3, mainly as the video needs decoding as well as the audio, and the audio alone is too much!
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You can play CDXL video on a 68000. It's uncompressed, so it depends more on the speed of your drive than anything else. If you're playing it from a CF card, you should be able to get decent sized HAM6 CDXL videos playing on your screen. You'll need to download some CDXL playing software from Aminet, and scour some CDTV/CD32 discs for some videos, or you can make your own by converting MPEG/AVI videos.
You can also use a program to convert your MP3s to WAV or IFF 8SVX, then you can play them in SongPlayer or one of the other music players, and it will sound as good as Paula can sound, but won't be CPU intensive to play.
The files all end up being larger and lower quality than the original compressed formats, but the fact that you CAN make a computer from 1985 play full-motion video (in 4,096 colours) and fully digitised songs is still pretty impressive.
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Thank you cammy - I was wondering if I could convert MP3 to any format accepted by an amiga music player, but had no idea that WAV was accepted!
Regarding video - that is what I was thinking, as much as I know the CDTV was made to play video and the CDTV is based on the A500 and therefore I was expecting I could maybe play some video here and there.
I will try to play some music first and then turn my attention to video :)
Note that I do not need this stuff for work or anything like that - I just like to experiment here and there :)
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Yeah, I guess that's true about the CDXL animations - might well be worth a try! As I said earlier though, SongPlayer will play many formats, and anything uncompressed should be playable. WAV is supported by pretty much everything, as is AIFF...
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If you would like to download a CDXL clip to test out on your Amiga, I made this one a while ago as a test. In the CDXL software, you need to set it to double the height of the video, so then it will be in the right aspect. It's a widescreen film clip, and was designed to run from a 2X CDROM, but should have no problems streaming off of a CF card.
Here's a link to the file - http://home.exetel.com.au/amiga/HAM6.CDXL
And here's a compressed archive of the file for quicker download - http://home.exetel.com.au/amiga/HAM6.rar (you will require UnRAR or similar software).
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Thank you for the replies and the link. I am downloading it right now.
Regarding Songplayer; is the version on Aminet the old one or the new one? I am asking because that version only works with a 68020 processor. If so, is there any other music player that plays .wav files?
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If so, is there any other music player that plays .wav files?
http://aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/play/hippoplayer.lha
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hmmm and which software should we use to play CDXL video on the Amiga?
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http://aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/play/hippoplayer.lha
When I try to play WAV music using hippo player I get an error message telling me "not enough memory". I am trying this on WinUAE with 2Mb ChipRAM and 8Mb FastRAM on a 68000 processor. Should I maybe convert the music from mp3 to something else?
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Oops, I accidentally renamed the 256 colour version HAM6, so it won't work on OCS/ECS Amigas. I'll upload the real HAM6 version in a minute. I'm sorry about that.
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When I try to play WMV music using hippo player I get an error message telling me "not enough memory". I am trying this on WinUAE with 2Mb ChipRAM and 8Mb FastRAM on a 68000 processor. Should I maybe convert the music from mp3 to something else?
wmv isn't mp3.
I suggest you consult HiP.guide for the supported file formats.
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wmv isn't mp3.
I know ... I tried to use a program to covert mp3 to wav.
I suggest you consult HiP.guide for the supported file formats.
I'll give it a look :)
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Just to be more clear - I am converting music from mp3 format to wav format at 6000Hz, 8 bits per sample and Mono. The error message I get now is "Trouble with the player group".
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Okay guys, sorry about the mixup earlier. I have two versions of this clip. You can use the utility CDGSXL from Aminet to play them. This player has the ability to double the height of the video using the Copper chip, which helps us have larger looking videos for slower CDROM drives. These two clips were designed to stream from a 2x CDROM, and I've tested them on a CD32 and they play back at the right speed without any skipping. The only problem I have encountered is this flickering of colour occasionally, which I've only observed in my own CDXL videos, so I must have done something wrong when I made them. I really want to look into making some nicer clips to play on CDTVs, CD32s, and from CF/HDD on A600s and A1200s. Next time I might attempt to convert a movie trailer, but for now I have a short clip from the movie "I Am Legend".
Here's the 256 colour version I previously uploaded, but renamed now - http://home.exetel.com.au/amiga/IAmLegend256.CDXL
And here's the HAM6 version, which should play on an A600 - http://home.exetel.com.au/amiga/IAmLegendHAM6.CDXL
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I just played the video on my A600, and none of the players I downloaded from Aminet seemed to work. I think CDGSXL might need an 020 for it to work. AnimFX definitely needs an 020.
It works in MultiView but it plays it too slowly. I don't know if any players are going to work yet, sorry.
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Yes I tried to play it on WinUAE but under 68000 CDGSXL complains and under 68030 it does not run ... when I play it from MultiView I get a dark picture and something moving slowly.
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Hi,
I spent much of yesterday formatting mp3 to wav format using different parameters but none worked getting the error messages previously reported here when try to play them on hippo player. I then check if there was a plugin to play wav files on hippo player but could not find one either :(
Does anyone know how to make hippo player to play wav format music or if there is a player that runs this music. I checked hippo read me files but could not understand what the other formats it supports are and I am not intrested in mp3 (which seems to require at least an 020).
Thanks for any suggestions,
Sim085
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Did you try installing an old version of AHI and then setting the HippoPlayer to use AHI drivers only for audio output? It might be able to stream it from the hard drive then. (Or I could be wrong about Hippoplayer being able to do stuff like that.)
As for the formats HippoPlayer supports, it supports many music module formats including Protracker, MedPlayer (with the appropriate playback library), AHX, and many, many others.
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Play16 will play streaming wav files, but it doesn't have its own GUI, although there may be some available for it. You basically run it, select the file to play with an ASL requestor, and it plays the file. You can use it from CLI too, or even have it play a song from early on in the Startup-Sequence, so as your Amiga boots up it's playing your favourite music too.
http://aminet.net/package/mus/play/Play16
I still really want to look into this CDXL situation. They SHOULD run on a plain A600, since they run on a 1MB CDTV! They play perfectly on my A1200 030 and my CD32.
Also, if you'd like a nice program for converting WAV to IFF and other formats, try Sound Box from Aminet, and remember to download the keyfile too.
http://aminet.net/package/mus/misc/SoundBox
http://aminet.net/mus/misc/SoundBoxKey
Good luck, let us know how you go!
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@Cammy
do you know if there's any library to handle CDXL files for mencoder/ffmpeg? it would be quite comfortable to convert AVI files to CDXL using these tools instead of the long task of splitting each frame into a picture and latter joining all the frames.
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i used to play mp3's using a script that let you choose your mp3 file from an ASl requestor via mpega and i found that the CPU use was halved compared to using a GUI like songplayer. I think i still have it somewhere. might be useful for low-end CPU's
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i used to play mp3's using a script that let you choose your mp3 file from an ASl requestor via mpega and i found that the CPU use was halved compared to using a GUI like songplayer. I think i still have it somewhere. might be useful for low-end CPU's
For 68000? no way.
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For 68000? no way.
No it was for 25 mhz 68030. Still impressive that with the settings that I had it played back with decent quality on Paula and didn't need 100% of the CPU.
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I managed to play wav files with hippoplayer - had misplaced a file :) I like Soundbox as well ... going to install both on my hard disk.
Regarding CDXL, what I know about the CDTV is that it was very similar (if not the same) to the A500 - therefore I would assume that if it worked on the CDTV then it should also work on an A500, A500+ and A600! right?
I'll do some testing as well :)