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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: melott on October 30, 2003, 03:57:44 AM

Title: Windoz
Post by: melott on October 30, 2003, 03:57:44 AM
I guess the latest poll brought this on...
I only use Amiga OS and Windoz...
Now take a guess whats my favorite...
Does anyone know how to fix the registery
for Windoz 98???
The only way I know it to wipe the drive clean
and re-install, which is a real pain in the butt.
(Windoz really sux)

Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: Mithalas on October 30, 2003, 04:03:33 AM
@melott

That's a pretty generic question (especially on 9x).   If you have a little more information on what the possible cause (beside loading windows) is I might have some help for you. The most common fix I have found for that one (depending on what I did to it, and as you have stated) was to do the old fdisk and format routine.

-Mithalas
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: melott on October 30, 2003, 04:46:05 AM
Ok..
I recently had to do a re-install of win98.
The registry was messed up.

So after re-installing win98 I did a windows update.
that took about 2 hours on line.

My son had given me Norton System works.
So I installed and ran it.. BAD move.  
Explorer wouldn't run .. said I needed to re-install
windoz (dubble dam) so now I had to do a windoz
update again.
So I did and did an UN-install of Norton.

So I was going to do a CD Rom clone of my 'C'
drive. I was looking through the dir on 'C' to
see what I didn't need and found some Norton
stuff that didn't get un-installed and naturally
without thinking I deleted it.
Now I get an error on boot-up saying it is looking
for the Norton files I deleted.
How do I fix something like that ???




Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: Methuselas on October 30, 2003, 06:02:45 AM
Reinstall System Works and then remove it from ADD/Remove on 9x. What version of 98 is it?

You're best bet is to do a reinstall, but I'd HATE to have to go through 2 hours for an updated again...

Mithalas is correct, though. FDisk and reformat is probably the way to go...

MS Registry is such trash.
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: Linchpin on October 30, 2003, 08:24:12 AM
Can you not go into the system startup (msconfig) and remove the norton entries??
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: T_Bone on October 30, 2003, 09:06:02 AM
press F8 at boot and choose "safe mode command prompt only"

from the command line:

scanreg /restore
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: sir_inferno on October 30, 2003, 12:13:02 PM
chocolate
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: that_punk_guy on October 30, 2003, 12:16:44 PM
Errrr... wrong thread?

Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: mikeymike on October 30, 2003, 12:29:24 PM
There's a handy little DOS command on Win98 to manage the registry called SCANREG.

scanreg /fix
claims to fix registry corruption

scanreg /opt
claims to optimise/compact the registry
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: melott on October 30, 2003, 06:45:18 PM
Well .. I tried the 'Scanreg' but no luck.

I did a google search on 'Symevnt.386' and
found that its a fairly common problem.
One guy had a solution 'Run his AntiVirus prg.'
It would fix the Norton problem ( I think NOT) :-x

I guess I'll just bite the bullet and wipe the drive
again. ( I'd really like to get a clean install and
clone it to CD Rom)
I guess this is the kind of stuff that makes
MicroSoft so endearing to everyone. :-(

Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: levelLORD on October 30, 2003, 07:19:00 PM
Whenever you want to install some app that you don't trust, run regedit, export (save) your registry and install the application. If something goes wrong, you can easily replace new registry with old one. Scanreg thing... It's hardly going to repare anything, build by M$, it is just going to destroy your system more :) I'm overreacting maybe, but probability for this scenatio to happen is high :) Good tools for fixing win registry, and for everything else is Norton Utilities packet, just make sure it's for w98. When w2K came out, I installed NU for win 95/98NT4 on it and after fixing stuff, during first reboot I got blue screen of death. So, make sure NU supports your w98.

regards,

levelLORD
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: helix on October 30, 2003, 07:35:56 PM
I think there are still registry entries for Norton, you can d/l and run this freeware utility   EasyCleaner (http://www.toniarts.com/ecleane.htm)
 it will find and display in a list all of the invalid registry entrys. You can delete them from the list.
Good Luck
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: mikeymike on October 30, 2003, 07:49:45 PM
Quote
Whenever you want to install some app that you don't trust, run regedit, export (save) your registry and install the application. If something goes wrong, you can easily replace new registry with old one.


A: it's a good way of doubling the size of your registry (if you do a "restore")

and B: exporting from regedit and importing won't delete keys that have been created.  It'll only restore keys that had gone missing.

No version of Win32 compacts its own registry.  If keys are deleted, the space left behind isn't cleaned up.  Scanreg for Win98 reportedly compacts the (win9x)  registry, but that's the only known method.
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: levelLORD on October 30, 2003, 07:54:32 PM
Quote

helix wrote:
......You can delete them from the list.
Good Luck


Yeah, but if he don't know what he's doing, it is likely that he will delete something that's gotta be there, and then reinstall, again. But, that is how it is :)

Later,

levelLORD
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: levelLORD on October 30, 2003, 08:15:58 PM
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B: exporting from regedit and importing won't delete keys that have been created. It'll only restore keys that had gone missing.


Are you saying that imporing previously exported *.reg would not bring it back to it's original state?
Then it appears that only way to do it to erase new keys is to go manually through regedit?

And about restore thing. I have only used it once when winMe came out. In that time I was working in printing company making designs and, if I remember correctly, winMe was bugging me to make restore point. So I did it. After a few days, something just goes wrong (nothing is weird with winMe), and I tried that "restore point" M$'s  miracle. After a while and a frenetic hdd work, everything pops up, in nice and working condition, except that I was missing around more than 60 designs and who knows what else. That is the last time I have used M$ stupidity called "restore point" s##t. It is good if you have nerves to make resdtore point every time before installation, tweaking, playing around, but is that the way how OS should work, making restore points every few hours?

regards,

levelLORD
Title: Re: Windoz
Post by: mikeymike on October 30, 2003, 08:34:54 PM
Quote
Are you saying that imporing previously exported *.reg would not bring it back to it's original state?


Importing a reg file will never remove any existing keys.  It's an odd thing for a security feature to come from MS, but this is one of the few.  If a reg file did provide a means of deleting keys, then someone could send you one, you open it, and you have no registry left.

re: OS reliability and co

NTx is what Windows should have been in 1996.  NT4/2k/XP is far less temperamental, a far more ideal learning platform than 9x.