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Title: DHx: or HDx
Post by: sim085 on July 13, 2009, 12:13:29 PM
I know that the name given the a partition does not make much of a difference. However while trying to install workbench I visited a lot of websites. In these websites I found people giving different names to partitions, such as; DHx, HDx, CFx, CHx, etc where x represents a numeric value. I used the term DHx. However I opened DOpus and it is asking me to insert HD0! So should I have named my partitions using the HDx terminology?

Regards,
Sim085
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Thomas on July 13, 2009, 12:27:32 PM
Probably DOpus is configured to load HD0: initially. Just change that configuration.
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: sim085 on July 13, 2009, 12:38:08 PM
Quote from: Thomas;515539
Probably DOpus is configured to load HD0: initially. Just change that configuration.


Thanks :) but do these terms really do any difference? For example could installer tool by default be set to look for HD0: and can it be changed without having to re-format?
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Ilwrath on July 13, 2009, 01:18:24 PM
I've always preferred the look of "HDx", myself, but it's nothing more than a preference.  Either will work fine with anything.  You just need to edit a config file now and then.

And, if at worst, you can't edit the config file, just throw the command

c:assign hdx: dhx:

(Or vice-versa, depending on which name you need vs. which name you have...)  Amigas are fine with dirty tricks like that.  You could even do something horrible like

c:assign hd0: dh1:

The system would be fine with that, if you can live with your own non-stop headaches and nightmares.  :lol:
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: sim085 on July 13, 2009, 01:29:31 PM
Thank you for that ... I think I may go to the hdx style as well :)
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: bloodline on July 13, 2009, 01:38:28 PM
Quote from: sim085;515544
Thank you for that ... I think I may go to the hdx style as well :)


DHx: is more logical since:

DFx: is your floppy drive
DHx: is logically your hrivesrive :)

it is all about preferance ;)
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: sim085 on July 13, 2009, 01:58:24 PM
Quote from: bloodline;515545
DHx: is more logical since:

DFx: is your floppy drive
DHx: is logically your hrivesrive :)

it is all about preferance ;)


So what does the letter 'D' stand for?
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: cpfuture on July 13, 2009, 02:01:25 PM
Quote from: sim085;515547
So what does the letter 'D' stand for?


Umm. Disk? :)
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: save2600 on July 13, 2009, 02:03:02 PM
Quote from: sim085;515547
So what does the letter 'D' stand for?

Device, Drive or Disk - take your pick!

And I agree with Bloodline. DHx: is more logical. Not only that, but many programs (especially older) when installing, look for DHx: only. Sure you can add an assign, but why add more steps?
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: sim085 on July 13, 2009, 02:05:02 PM
Quote from: cpfuture;515548
Umm. Disk? :)


... So DHx means Disk Hard!
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Voyager74 on July 13, 2009, 02:16:35 PM
I've always used HD0-HD1 etc. for harddrives to make it stand out
from the DFx ones, like CDx for CD-ROM's.
But like everyone else says, the pick is yours, u can use just about
anything that makes you feel better :)
When it comes to DOS and scripts, or DOpus, I often use the logical
disknames, or labels if you prefer like System3: Work: or...
I'm glad that this system, unlike windooze, use the labels equally well!
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Ilwrath on July 13, 2009, 02:22:46 PM
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I've always used HD0-HD1 etc. for harddrives to make it stand out
from the DFx ones, like CDx for CD-ROM's.


Very good point. So, Bloodline.... Do you mount your CD-ROM as DC0: then?  It *WOULD* be more logical, by your method.   ;)
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Matt_H on July 13, 2009, 02:52:41 PM
You can also change from DHx to HDx in HDToolbox without trashing any data. Of course, then you might need an assign statement in the other direction, depending on what you have installed and how it's configured :)

And if HDx or whatever doesn't exist, Installer won't barf - it'll beep/flash the screen while bringing you to the list of devices as if you had pressed Show Drives. This happens to me fairly often as I don't have a Work: partition (I use A4000T-1:, A4000T-2:, etc).
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: bloodline on July 13, 2009, 02:59:51 PM
Quote from: Ilwrath;515553
Very good point. So, Bloodline.... Do you mount your CD-ROM as DC0: then?  It *WOULD* be more logical, by your method.   ;)


I never really used a CD-Rom with my Amigas... But DCx: would seem logical... CDx: was used by the PCMCIA slot :-D
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: zipper on July 13, 2009, 03:05:55 PM
I've had an assign in user-startup for hd0 for about 15 years as some stupid installers were hardcoded for it; else dhx numbers as the system suggests - or those oddball names with identification to the disk manufacturer. qdh0, sdh0 etc - wow. First time I wondered something was horribly wrong...
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Trev on July 13, 2009, 03:20:08 PM
DOx: fits optical drives into the scheme, but I think CDx: was a wise, user-friendly choice.
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: kolla on July 13, 2009, 03:54:00 PM
Quote from: sim085;515551
... So DHx means Disk Hard!


3"1/2 floppy, 5"1/4 hard?
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Ilwrath on July 13, 2009, 04:02:25 PM
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or those oddball names with identification to the disk manufacturer. qdh0, sdh0 etc - wow. First time I wondered something was horribly wrong...


Yeah, those were the worst.  I think my old DataFlyer controller actually suggested labeling a device as DFDH0: once.   I just wanted to smack whoever wrote that install disk software.  :lol:
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: xeron on July 13, 2009, 04:05:23 PM
I always used HDx. I've never had to assign DH0/DH1 or anything like that anywhere.
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Thomas on July 13, 2009, 04:12:15 PM
Quote from: sim085;515540
Thanks :) but do these terms really do any difference? For example could installer tool by default be set to look for HD0: and can it be changed without having to re-format?



The official Installer tool never looks for HD0: but for the drive with the largest free storage. It can be configured to look for HD0:, but only stupid programmers do this (I never saw Installer asking to insert a disk other than the source disks).

And yes, certainly you can change the device name without formatting. You only need to reboot after the change to activate the new name.

Note that DH0 or HD0 are long gone. HDToolbox always uses XDH0 where X is the first letter of the HDD's manufacturer. You won't find many people who still use DH0 or HD0.

I even prefer somewhat descriptive names like SDHB for Workbench or SDHW for Work, SDHM for Music, SDHG for Graphics and so on.

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: cv643d on July 13, 2009, 04:22:25 PM
Always used DHx: and probably will forever.
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Matt_H on July 13, 2009, 04:46:30 PM
Quote from: bloodline;515559
I never really used a CD-Rom with my Amigas... But DCx: would seem logical... CDx: was used by the PCMCIA slot :-D

PCMCIA is CC0: :)
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: bloodline on July 13, 2009, 09:14:05 PM
Quote from: Matt_H;515576
PCMCIA is CC0: :)


Are you sure?!?! wow, my memory is getting old :(
Title: Re: DHx: or HDx
Post by: Retro_71 on July 14, 2009, 12:54:03 AM
i have always used HDx (Hard Drive x) always made more sense... :p :D