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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: recidivist on July 02, 2009, 05:24:47 PM

Title: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: recidivist on July 02, 2009, 05:24:47 PM

Just got this 4000 with Toaster and Flyer.
 Hooked it up to 1084 ,no display,hard drives spin,etc.
 Removed Toaster and Flyer boards-now get blue screen instantly on power on,hard drives spin,leds light up.Blue screen solid,no messages,no changes.
 Stripped system bit by bit and nothing changes-still blue screen instantly on turning on power switch.Have even removed riser board and 040 cpu card.
Still blue screen in a fraction of second of  pushing power switch.Blue screen is solid ,unwavering.Presume this means video circuit is ok.
 Some corrosion near battery.
A4000 Rev B motherboard-all chips except ROMs and U103 appear soldered directly to the motherboard.
Two white stickers on motherboard :A4000 NTSC and A4000 Card Rev D
 Did I just waste a couple days pay?
What should I do next?

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: motrucker on July 02, 2009, 05:39:33 PM

Blue screen means an error was detected in one or more of the custom chips. A real problem for an A4000. Corrosion around the battery is never a good sign - specially on multilayer boards.
Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news.

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: recidivist on July 03, 2009, 12:31:56 AM

Have now removed the motherboard from the case ;plugging in power supply and monitor then turning on power =no display not even the blue(s).
 Anyone have a motherboard reasonable or can repair this one?

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: terminator4 on July 03, 2009, 12:45:31 AM

Whats reasonable?  $300? $200?  What do you want for your old board?

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: recidivist on July 03, 2009, 02:15:19 AM

OK,CPU(3640 ),riser,memory,hard drives all back=blue screen.
Add Toaster 4000 kills screen
remove Toaster and add Flyer =blue screen
Add Toaster to Flyer kills screen.Take Toaster back pit=blue screen again.
Add floppy still blue screen and floppy led staying on.

System was supposed to be workong ok as 4000/Toaster/Flyer about six? years ago.

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: terminator4 on July 03, 2009, 02:42:35 AM

Pls, post photo of the motherboard in the battery area.

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: rkauer on July 03, 2009, 05:41:39 AM

Floppy drive LED lit and steady hints for a dead Paula...

Title: Re: A4000 blue screen trouble
Post by: PulsatingQuasar on July 03, 2009, 09:33:05 AM

I have recently revived 2 Amiga 4000 motherboards from the dead(well, I have done more but these were especially tricky) and I can now savely say that no matter how bad the corrosion is or how busted the Amiga 4000 motherboard looks it can be brought back to live 100%.

But these things do need some work though. What I always do first is replace all electrolitic capacitors with new ones because those are either flakey or dead already. Then fixup the battery area which might mean 1 or more of the clock chips might need replacing also and then I measure all traces around the battery area because you can get a trace cut at the weirdest places.

Then it's time for any of the larger chips.