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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: TheJackal on October 28, 2003, 02:07:52 PM
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Hi,
I just noticed this site:
forefront technologies inc. (http://www.forefronttechnologiesinc.com/Products/?category=165)
And for the following spec:
Memory:
512MB - Kingston 512MB PC133 ECC Reg 1GB - Kingston 1GB PC133 ECC Reg [+$210.00]
Video card:
ATI Radeon 9200 128MB DDR AGP8X ATI Radeon 9000
Sound card:
- None - [-$56.00] Creative Sound Blaster Live! Dolby Digital 5.1
Hard disk 1:
Seagate Barracuda 40GB ATA/100 7200rpm
Optical drive 1:
LGE 52x EIDE CDROM drive
Chassis:
InWin S506 midtower ATX12V 3-5.25/4-3.5 bays USB 300watt
Floppy drive:
Teac 1.44MB 3.5" internal floppy disk drive
Input devices:
Logitech PS/2 keyboard & wheel mouse
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totaling $1,350.00 (approx ~£800 ukp );
But since this is a US site, what about taxes/shipping? Also who are these guys? Anyone had dealings with them? Whats the support like? And so on. (Since I dont want my money to go 'walkies' ;-) )
Also are there any suggestions about the above config? e.g. the gfx card, since I've lost track of most brands other than GeForce (all machines at work have Geforce 2+, that how I know about them).
I dont think I'd buy a system until OS4 is out, since linux et al, just give me the shivers. (bad experience from uni with *inx machines, just cant stand loads of command lines!)
Funny thing is, when I do (depending on OS4) buy a machine, it will probably just end up running workbench, dpaint V and Wordworth 7! (until more apps are written/I can write some decent apps).
btw: why wont my sig get attached? [edit] its there now![/edit]
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Hi! Forefront Tech is probably a pretty safe bet. One of the pricipals of the company that I know of is a very long term member of the Amiga community and I have never heard anything bad about them. On top of that they are the ones providing Radeon drivers for OS4 and have recently shown them working.
IMHO they are probably a safe bet:-)
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Re: Forefront tech. inc.
by redrumloa on 2003/10/28 14:12:11
Hi! Forefront Tech is probably a pretty safe bet. One of the pricipals of the company that I know of is a very long term member of the Amiga community and I have never heard anything bad about them. On top of that they are the ones providing Radeon drivers for OS4 and have recently shown them working.
IMHO they are probably a safe bet
Hi,
Right ta. Anyone with experience with them sending stuff to the UK, and paying? ( ie accept switch, taxes...).
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i think u will loose alot of moeny here , if it gets stopped in the customs _(u live in the uk right?) then you will have to pay tax , and tax aint cheap , remeber that!
cheers
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A website that gave concise explanations of the entire Radeon range would be much appreciated.
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by lempkee on 2003/10/28 14:33:56
i think u will loose alot of moeny here , if it gets stopped in the customs _(u live in the uk right?) then you will have to pay tax , and tax aint cheap , remeber that!
Exactly!
The info I'm looking for is do they sort out the tax and shipping or is that left to daft sods like me? Also I'd guess the price includes US taxes, how does this "interact" with uk taxes (17.5%). After all I dont want to pay tax twice!
Or simply is there a UK vendor who will build like spec systems? Would make life easier.
A website that gave concise explanations of the entire Radeon range would be much appreciated.
closest I could find was this site (http://www.widgets.ws/widgets/At%20A%20Glance&start=300). But a clear table would be better.
Thanks for the replies btw. ;-)
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lempkee wrote:
i think u will loose alot of moeny here , if it gets stopped in the customs _(u live in the uk right?) then you will have to pay tax , and tax aint cheap , remeber that!
cheers
When the guys from forefront send the package, just get them to giftwrap it, and write on the label that it is a gift, and is valued at under $50. That way you will not have to pay any import duty or VAT when it is brought into the UK.
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If I were to buy a PCMCIA Echo Indigo IO soundcard from Florida, they will send it tax free.
In the UK this card casts £199, in florida it costs $164
Which works out to be about $100... that has to be thought about with $24 shipping...
which comes to £115... if it doesn't get stopped at customs, sweet!!!
If it does, then is would come to £135.13 (assuming it is 17.5% tax can any one confim thins?).
Either way, one has made quite a saving!!!
-Edit- Any one know what Import duty is?
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You will have to pay import duty and VAT plus royal mail release fee.
Import duty is between 5% and 9% depending on the value and the class of the item you are importing also the postage to the UK you have paid.
Rough Example
If customs and excise decide to charge you 5%
£800 + shipping say £50
Total £850
Import duty @ 5% £42.50
Then VAT on £892.50
= £156
+ £4 or £8 release fee from royal mail or parcel force
So expect a £206 bill when its delivered.
Bringing it to £1056 pound in total
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@JurassicCamper
Thanks for the info.
:whack:tax [grumble]:whack:
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Also I'd guess the price includes US taxes, how does this "interact" with uk taxes (17.5%).
The price you see will be the price you pay. In the USA you don't pay tax unless you are in the same state as the company, outside of the US you don't pay US tax either.
Whatever the UK may hit you with in duties I have no idea.
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@redrumloa
That is only true until Saturday. Then the local state sales taxes are applicable in several areas, including Florida I'm sad to mention.
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But since this is a US site, what about taxes/shipping
I don't know what shipping from the USA to UK is like, but I ordered a Power Tower and some other bits and pieces from the UK and had them shipped to the States and it came to around 40 quid for the shipping and handling (it will be one hell of a big heavy box remember) - so add around $65-$70 to the price...
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@Downix
Links?
FDOR (http://taxlaw.state.fl.us/sut_out_statutes.asp?r=212.05&file=sut_s03.ask) states nothing about Florida seller collecting sales tax for out of state internet sales.
This would obviously be a very big deal for me :-o
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@redrumloa
I'll look it up. But it would not be that big a deal, it would apply only to things purchased, not sold, in your case.
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So could I send a cheque to someone in Florida to buy the kit, and get them to send the peice of kit to me as a gift?
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TheJackal wrote:
The info I'm looking for is do they sort out the tax and shipping or is that left to daft sods like me?
We would ship to the UK, but you would be responsible for dealing with your local taxes & duty regulations.
Also I'd guess the price includes US taxes, how does this "interact" with uk taxes (17.5%). After all I dont want to pay tax twice!
Our prices do not include any US taxes. When you go to check out, applicable taxes are added. We are only required to collect taxes (state sales tax) for certain states - those that we maintain offices in (Pennsylvania), and those that require all retailers to collect state taxes regardless of where the offices are (California). The US has no federal sales tax. So, only orders shipped or billed to PA or CA will have to pay sales tax (6% & 7.5% respectively), all others will not be charged sales tax.
Or simply is there a UK vendor who will build like spec systems? Would make life easier.
Honestly, that would probably be the easiest thing to do.
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You could try KDH (http://www.kdh-amiga-shop.com/catalog/default.php?language=en) they are in the EU so you will not pay import duty. Prices seem quite good too.
It is probably easiest at the moment to order a board from Eyetech and build it yourself. I had no problems doing this :-) .
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by Radfoo on 2003/10/28 23:21:44
You could try KDH they are in the EU so you will not pay import duty. Prices seem quite good too.
It is probably easiest at the moment to order a board from Eyetech and build it yourself. I had no problems doing this .
I thought about buying one from Eyetech and building myself. I'd only have trouble installing the linux stuff, but since I'm waiting for OS4 that's a mute point. (I hope!). However when I go to Eyetech's site I can't seem to find upto date info. The latest news is end of 2002! Perhaps I'm not looking at the right link/page?
Anyhow I remember seeing somewhere else mentioned that another company/site was dealing with selling AmigaOne stuff for Eyetech. Or am I imagining that? :-?
[edit] monkey mitten hand typing fixed[/edit]
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Give eyetech a ring.
See if they are still dealing.
Apparently some one in brum was supposed to take over as the UK retailer on the 1st of October, but it doesnt appear to have happened yet.
Eyetech will remain the world wide dealer distrubutor.
There is a copy of the Total Amiga article on amigaworld.net.
I imagine Eyetech would only be too happy to sell you one.
As for Linux it can be frustrating and has a steep learning curve but look at it this way at least you'll have another skill under your belt and you never know when that might come in handy.
Plus they're is loads of us now who can offer helping hands.
Come to the Bath show if you want to check out the A1 and OS4.
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by JurassicCamper on 2003/10/29 10:40:05
Give eyetech a ring.
See if they are still dealing.
Apparently some one in brum was supposed to take over as the UK retailer on the 1st of October, but it doesnt appear to have happened yet.
Eyetech will remain the world wide dealer distrubutor.
There is a copy of the Total Amiga article on amigaworld.net.
I imagine Eyetech would only be too happy to sell you one.
As for Linux it can be frustrating and has a steep learning curve but look at it this way at least you'll have another skill under your belt and you never know when that might come in handy.
Plus they're is loads of us now who can offer helping hands.
Come to the Bath show if you want to check out the A1 and OS4.
Hmm might look into the Eyetech thing. But most likely after I've seen stuff "in the flesh" as it where. Hence I am planning to go to the Bath show, (barring illness, alien abduction etc:-D)
As for learning Linux, well my head is like a FIFO buffer, the more I shove in one end, the more falls out the other! (example:Just had to relearn my A level maths since I forgot it! Doh!).