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Title: Rep Power
Post by: Managarm on June 26, 2009, 09:40:58 PM
Hi Everyone,

I noticed the site has changed (I'm slow, but not that slow) but have only just seen the Rep Power thing. Mine is 5. Is that good? Is it based on the number of posts you make like the status under your username? Mine says Technoid at the moment. Can it go down? Is there an FAQ on the site that I should have read before posting that explains all?

Thanks,
Robin.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: bloodline on June 26, 2009, 09:47:52 PM
Quote from: Managarm;513495
Hi Everyone,

I noticed the site has changed (I'm slow, but not that slow) but have only just seen the Rep Power thing. Mine is 5. Is that good? Is it based on the number of posts you make like the status under your username? Mine says Technoid at the moment. Can it go down? Is there an FAQ on the site that I should have read before posting that explains all?

Thanks,
Robin.

5's good!

If people like your posts then they can approve it, which increases your Rep power... :)
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 26, 2009, 09:58:15 PM
Quote from: Managarm;513495
Hi Everyone,

I noticed the site has changed (I'm slow, but not that slow) but have only just seen the Rep Power thing. Mine is 5. Is that good? Is it based on the number of posts you make like the status under your username? Mine says Technoid at the moment. Can it go down? Is there an FAQ on the site that I should have read before posting that explains all?

Thanks,
Robin.


The reputation feature is new to the site (as part of moving to VB). Basically you have a reputation score. This is added to whenever somebody decides that they like a post of yours and give you reputation for it. Likewise, people can take exception to your post and detract from it. The amount they can add or detract is dependent on their reputation power. Reputation power is dependent on reputation. The higher your reputation, the greater your reputation power.

Everybody starts off with a degree of reputation. If it started at zero, the system would never work.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Managarm on June 26, 2009, 10:07:38 PM
Thanks guys. So it's all about earning respect, like the Mafia! I like! ;)

I'm about to post something dumb asking why Scalos won't properly uninstall so I wonder if that'll do me any harm: I don't ask with respect, I don't offer friendship. I don't even think to say Godfather. (I think that's the quote.)
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 26, 2009, 10:12:03 PM
Quote from: Managarm;513500
Thanks guys. So it's all about earning respect, like the Mafia! I like! ;)

I'm about to post something dumb asking why Scalos won't properly uninstall so I wonder if that'll do me any harm: I don't ask with respect, I don't offer friendship. I don't even think to say Godfather. (I think that's the quote.)

Only the mods can leave a horse's head in your User CP, so stay on the right side of them :lol:
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: bloodline on June 26, 2009, 10:20:24 PM
Quote from: Managarm;513500
Thanks guys. So it's all about earning respect, like the Mafia! I like! ;)

I'm about to post something dumb asking why Scalos won't properly uninstall so I wonder if that'll do me any harm: I don't ask with respect, I don't offer friendship. I don't even think to say Godfather. (I think that's the quote.)


Watch out for Karlos... with his MASSIVE rep, one bad click from him and you could be sunk!!!! :(
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 26, 2009, 11:15:13 PM
Quote from: bloodline;513502
Watch out for Karlos... with his MASSIVE rep, one bad click from him and you could be sunk!!!! :(


Ahem.

*points at your rep*
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: bloodline on June 26, 2009, 11:32:06 PM
Quote from: Karlos;513505
Ahem.

*points at your rep*


Hmmm! It does seem to be climbing... I'm still about 11000 positives away from you though :)
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Managarm on June 26, 2009, 11:38:37 PM
Am I reading two dons comparing their mob powers?

Last question on this: So how did I get 5 points? All I do is ask for help when I've screwed something up and/or need help. Does it mean people have looked at all my posts from the old site and taken pity on me?
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: A6000 on June 26, 2009, 11:43:49 PM
If everybody started with a rep power of ten, then I would like to know who I offended and what they were offended by.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 26, 2009, 11:46:53 PM
Quote from: A6000;513510
If everybody started with a rep power of ten, then I would like to know who I offended and what they were offended by.


Your most recent reputation received should be visible in your User CP section.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Golem!dk on June 26, 2009, 11:47:04 PM
Quote from: A6000;513510
If everybody started with a rep power of ten, then I would like to know who I offended and what they were offended by.


I don't think that's quite how it works, as far as I can tell the initial rep power depends on post count and how long you've been on the site.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 26, 2009, 11:48:13 PM
Quote from: Golem!dk;513512
I don't think that's quite how it works, as far as I can tell the initial rep power depends on post count and how long you've been on the site.


I get the impression that's more or less how it works. After that, it's all down to what reputation you receive for making noteworthy posts.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: bloodline on June 26, 2009, 11:59:32 PM
Quote from: A6000;513510
If everybody started with a rep power of ten, then I would like to know who I offended and what they were offended by.


Everyone starts with 10 rep points, not 10 Rep power... 10 rep power is gonna take quite a bit to earn :)
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Managarm on June 27, 2009, 01:03:32 AM
You don't become a made man overnight.

I'm really going to stop the mob references now!
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: smerf on June 27, 2009, 03:14:20 AM
Quote from: Karlos;513513
I get the impression that's more or less how it works. After that, it's all down to what reputation you receive for making noteworthy posts.


Hi

@Karlos

Boy am I in trouble, anybody ever reach minus rep points, I have been trying hard and I just can't seem to get the knack of getting my positive points to negitive.

Darn the Luck

smerf
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Wayne on June 27, 2009, 03:27:39 AM
Quote from: Karlos;513511
Your most recent reputation received should be visible in your User CP section.
Point of clarification:

*if* you're a subscriber.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: terminator4 on June 27, 2009, 04:30:44 AM
Wayne, isn't negative rep points a bit cruel & unusual punishment?  (its going to force new user registrations?)  It should stop at 0 i think.  Same for rep power.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 27, 2009, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: smerf;513532
Hi

@Karlos

Boy am I in trouble, anybody ever reach minus rep points, I have been trying hard and I just can't seem to get the knack of getting my positive points to negitive.

Darn the Luck

smerf


That's because giving negative reputation points is often a worse reflection on the person giving them than the person receiving them. We all know you like to try and wind people up but as trolls go you're actually quite likeable :)
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: bloodline on June 27, 2009, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: smerf;513532
Hi

@Karlos

Boy am I in trouble, anybody ever reach minus rep points, I have been trying hard and I just can't seem to get the knack of getting my positive points to negitive.

Darn the Luck

smerf


There you go +1, that should keep you out of the negatives for a bit, take care xxx
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 27, 2009, 12:28:49 PM
Quote from: bloodline;513569
There you go +1, that should keep you out of the negatives for a bit, take care xxx

Mwhahahaha :lol:

Evil idea ;)
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: J-Golden on June 27, 2009, 01:01:39 PM
Ok, Karlos, if your going to do the evil laugh and evilness thing you HAVE to change your avatar!  the doggie is WAY to cute and luvable to think evil thoughts... :)

I sudgest the Crusty the Clown with Kingon Batlet pic of old...
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 27, 2009, 04:50:01 PM
Quote from: J-Golden;513572
Ok, Karlos, if your going to do the evil laugh and evilness thing you HAVE to change your avatar!  the doggie is WAY to cute and luvable to think evil thoughts... :)

I sudgest the Crusty the Clown with Kingon Batlet pic of old...


He is pretty docile. That's my brother's German Shepard. Technically he was the family pet, but given there's just the two of them there now.

He really is exceptionally friendly and well natured.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Wayne on June 27, 2009, 05:01:41 PM
Quote from: terminator4;513537
Wayne, isn't negative rep points a bit cruel & unusual punishment?  (its going to force new user registrations?)  It should stop at 0 i think.  Same for rep power.
edit: no.  Giving out infractions and suspensions (which I may be forced to do to a couple who won't stop arguing) is cruel and unusual.  The rep program only enforces that what you say -- and more importantly, how you conduct yourself -- truly matters.

edit :  This is what gets me.  Some of you are actually so bothered by the fact that you have earned such a reputation, that you will incessantly sit here and whine and bitch about the rep program in thread after thread until you hope to wear me down enough to remove the program altogether.

Here's the thing though.  If you have a zero rep or below, you obviously did something to earn it.  Rather than bitching and whining about the existence of the program, maybe you ought to change your attitude a little bit to start earning positive rep points instead, thereby proving why I put the rep program in play to begin with...

edit: looking through the log of rep points, I may have no choice, because it's obvious that most of you aren't mature enough to handle such a system and it's turned into "I don't like x, so every time he posts, I'll give him negative rep".  I sometimes forget most of you were born after the death of Commodore and haven't reached emotional puberty yet...  

edit: If I sound a bit harsh it's not towards you terminator4, but overall disappointment at the lack of maturity shown by lots of people regarding what should be a fun and productive part of the web site.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 28, 2009, 02:09:13 AM
I picked up the habit of using the rep system to leave short comments on posts in general, not necessarily on posts that were helpful. For example, if something made me laugh I might give it some positive reputation.I don't usually give out negative feedback though, unless truly earned.

I don't know if this constitutes a misuse of the system.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Wayne on June 28, 2009, 03:12:55 AM
@Karlos,

Giving someone a positive rep point for making you laugh, or for being a good natured guy isn't a bad thing.  There's absolutely nothing wrong with it, because in my book, someone who makes you laugh -- unless it's at another's expense -- is pretty helpful.  

That being said, (and this is not about your usage of the system) your post helps illustrate at least a very small part of the problem I'm seeing.  

@everyone

The difference between intention and reality is clear here.  It's not that people are mis-using the system, it's simply that -- even though people know what the system's for, they're completely and intentionally ignoring said rules, and 1000 different people are making the rules up as they go along.

Then you get the people who actually earned bad reps bitching about having EARNED said reputation for being a butthead, and it's obvious to me that the reputation system -- while potentially helpful, isn't very useful when I have to spend all day and night hearing these {bleep} {bleep} and whine about it all blessed day.  

The reputation system was intended as a way to sort of self-moderate the system.  Believe it nor not, it WAS working (note that in the month since vB, we've only had one "loving couple" going at it like two spoiled children), but again, toss in 1000 people who don't care about how it's supposed to work and it's a moot point.

To that end, instead of the rep system, I am going to disable it, then start taking the reported posts very seriously, handing out infractions and suspending the people who are causing the constant personality conflicts.  Something I assure you, I never, ever wanted to do, ever again.

(... and some of you people bitched about me being an evil, censoring tyrant before.  :laughing:..)

Wayne
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Karlos on June 28, 2009, 06:46:38 PM
And just like that, it was gone again :lol:
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: terminator4 on June 28, 2009, 07:35:34 PM
@Wayne

Hmm after reading your post - I guess it makes sense.  To find out the rep points I clicked on Experience:
Are these my rep points and rep power of 23?
    *  Points for User: 4,041
    * Reputation: 23
    * Per day: 4,012
    * Friends: 6

What is considered good reputation?  I think i'm ok??? Sorry i'm being paranoid!!!  Cause sometimes I can get quite outspoken.  I look at my numbers and they seem low???

Quote
edit: If I sound a bit harsh it's not towards you terminator4, but overall disappointment at the lack of maturity shown by lots of people regarding what should be a fun and productive part of the web site.
Title: Re: Rep Power
Post by: Jose on June 28, 2009, 08:41:21 PM
I don't I'll pay much attention to that. Would be funny to compete for the lowest one ;)