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Amiga.org specific forums => Amiga.org Discussion and Site Feedback => Topic started by: koaftder on June 23, 2009, 01:36:07 AM
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I like to +1 folks who provide information about how to fix amiga problems or who give useful advise but I don't see any way to do so anymore. Am I missing something?
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yeah, it's sad that a few whinners spoils things for those of us adult enough to handle something like this feature
sigh
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yeah, it's sad that a few whinners spoils things for those of us adult enough to handle something like this feature
sigh
Dang. I didn't see any post about it. I haven't been on as much the past few days. That sucks, the rep point thing would have been a good tool for gauging sellers and help new members / sparse visitors identify who knows their stuff.
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I would have much preferred a poll to determine if we keep the user rating system or not, instead of just giving into the childish whinging minority :confused:
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Dang. I didn't see any post about it. I haven't been on as much the past few days. That sucks, the rep point thing would have been a good tool for gauging sellers and help new members / sparse visitors identify who knows their stuff.
You mean an ebay style feedback system where buyers can leave feedback about sellers but sellers can't leave feedback about buyers?
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You mean an ebay style feedback system where buyers can leave feedback about sellers but sellers can't leave feedback about buyers?
You mean like a real world, brick and mortar retail business where the customer, i.e. the one with the money, comes first? ;-) EDIT: Only the entertainment industry is stupid enough to bad mouth its customers.
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I am between yes and no in this one.
It can surely help new users to identify who is usefull and who is a forum spammer but at the same time it gives a powerfull tool to anybody that has an oposite opinion than yours, to give bad feedback.
Not all of us think the same way, and not all of us understand exactly "why is this button for".
For some the "reputation" button means "I dont like this answer" or "I dont like this guy" and not "this is helpfull, ontopic or not".
So, I really don't know what to suggest here :-P
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I think the rep thing is silly. Because you can have a person who doesn't know their stuff, but posts a lot, and this creates the illusion of being reputable. Then someone say who is a developer and posts once a while has little rep points. It creates a forum where those with many rep points brag about their skills. Those also can "shut down" a new member because they have been around for a while. This is already common on Lemon 64. Come on, we are all adults, we don't need rep points (this isn't Kindergarten). I don't know about you, but I help without need for rewards, and the person getting the feedback should base it on multiple opinions anyways.
It also creates a ONE WAY street, where the other side has nothing to say... Not to mention that there could be retaliation or personal attacks because one person does not like this user etc.
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This is a fact...
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Frankly, I turned it off because I'm too old, and too tired to listening to the whiny bitching of children. Those who obviously got bad reps then couldn't deal with the fact that they're being called on their acts of forum stupidity.
I may turn it back on out of spite, and wish those who caused the problem themselves to "have a nice day".
It never ceases to amaze me that the dumbasses who end up with negative rep -- because they're dumbasses -- always end up being the ones who jump up and down crying how the "rep system is silly", etc.
If you fsck up in the forums, as I often do, own it. Learn from it, and grow from it. Act appropriately towards other people.
Otherwise, no one will give a s**t when you end up with a rep less than zero.
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Frankly, I turned it off because I'm too old, and too tired to listening to the whiny bitching of children. Those who obviously got bad reps then couldn't deal with the fact that they're being called on their acts of forum stupidity.
I may turn it back on out of spite, and wish those who caused the problem themselves to "have a nice day".
It never ceases to amaze me that the dumbasses who end up with negative rep -- because they're dumbasses -- always end up being the ones who jump up and down crying how the "rep system is silly", etc.
If you fsck up in the forums, as I often do, own it. Learn from it, and grow from it. Act appropriately towards other people.
Otherwise, no one will give a s**t when you end up with a rep less than zero.
I say turn it back on, it was fun trying to catch up with Karlos... I was only 1 away then he jumped up another point!!!
The fun part tying to say something so helpful that loads of people rep you :D
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To be the voice of paranoia: What about abuse from bots? Youtube recently suffered a rating/flagging bot attack. I imagine you can download the programs easily enough, 4chan would be a logical place to start looking. Not that I personally would need to use it against persons of doubtful sanity. Which are a feature at Amiga.org. lol
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I'm surprised there is some negativity about the feature. You can drop comments with a rep point but they're private, so it's not like ebay where somebody can be a dick and tell a lie for the whole world to see. The rep point thing here is throttled so one person can't just jack up +1 or -1 on a person. Like any point system, it all will just average out anyway. Some folks will accumulate gobs of points, no big deal, there will always be somebody with the top score at asteroids, somebody who can solve a math problem faster, some one who can lift more weights, etc.
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I say turn it back on, it was fun trying to catch up with Karlos... I was only 1 away then he jumped up another point!!!
:lol: Eat my dust... or summat.
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@Wayne: thumbs up. I am going through the same thing at amigahellas...
So, we are back on "reputation" track. This should be fun :-D
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Wayne, turn it back on...I can make zero in no time....:laughing:
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@fanscale
... but here's the thing. As I already stated, I'll be keeping an eye on it, and anyone who goes apespit with using it may very well lose that capability.
It's to be used to help define whether a person is being helpful or not. Not for vindictiveness. It's pretty easy to tell the difference looking at people's comments.
Besides, If the reputation system matters that much to ANY of you, we really need to set you up with a hooker right away to take care of some "pent up issues".
Wayne
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Put me on the hooker list as well. thanks
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I'm surprised there is some negativity about the feature. You can drop comments with a rep point but they're private
Just to be open and honest here, Site Subscribers (http://www.amiga.org/forums/payments.php) have the ability to see both who left rep, and their comments in their own User CP. So far, it's proven fact that people who care enough about the site to subscribe (http://www.amiga.org/forums/payments.php) aren't the troublemakers...
In fact, by far the biggest troublemakers come from the registered user pool (though I'm sure anonymous users would be far more trouble if they could).
/me puts on his Jon Lovitz impersonation hat.
Maybe I should make it so that only subscribers can use/leave rep.. That way, they can rep everyone to death and the freeloaders can't do anything about it.. yeah, that's the ticket..
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Put me on the hooker list as well. thanks
Sorry to disappoint, but sponsorship participation in the "beautiful young ladies' college education scholarship assistance program"* is only included with a lifetime subscription.
Lucky for you, we're running a special deal on that this week. Only $25,000 USD. Comes with a free week at Viking's Resort (http://cat69.com) in the company of the lady of your choice.
(*= I was reminded to be politically correct in referencing hookers. Seems they object to the term hooker.. Can't imagine why.)
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(stupid mode ON)
We do? Where is the button? You got me curious...
No, seriously, I can't find anything leading to this - LOL
(stupid mode OFF)
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Not sure what you're asking by way of sentence fragment, but if anyone has sent you rep (they haven't), you -- as a subscriber -- would be able to see it under your UserCP main page.
Amazingly, what I don't get is that there's only one person on the entire site that's gotten any substantial negative rep, and they -- in fact -- earned it. Humorously, they're the one bitching the loudest.
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Damn, I dont see anything. Who are those 10 votes? LOOL
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On another level, this and all the other whingeing about fonts, colours, layouts etc. just proves that this forum even though catering for Amiga users -which you'd have to admit is as niche as it gets- is a perfect reflection of western society and our collective feeling of entitlement and aversion to the concept of cause and effect.
Of course noone has time to philosophise about the nature of man so:
Wayne, next time someone whinges, tell them to Harden the f**k up and give them negative rep, that'll shut them up.
:)
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Damn, I dont see anything. Who are those 10 votes? LOOL
Everyone starts out with 10. Kind of a "gimme" for everyone. It's up to them to lose or gain points from there.
Wayne
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Wayne, next time someone whinges, tell them to Harden the f**k up and give them negative rep, that'll shut them up.:)
"MarcB says "man the **** up, and quit whining. Since you annoyed me, here's a negative rep point, compliments of Marc..."
Works for me.. :)
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AHAHAHAHA didn't know that :P
It's cool, I managed to make a complete @ss of my self in front of the entire forum LOL
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On another level, this and all the other whingeing about fonts, colours, layouts etc. just proves that this forum even though catering for Amiga users -which you'd have to admit is as niche as it gets- is a perfect reflection of western society and our collective feeling of entitlement and aversion to the concept of cause and effect.
Some of that is my fault really. I encourage -- as much as possible -- the feeling that this site somehow belongs to the community, and is theirs to use at their will. It's worked for 15 years that way, with the exception of my avoidance of all things BBRV, but the flip side of the coin is that the feeling of entitlement sometimes leads to whinyism and backlash against change...
I tell you. Getting people off Xoops to vB was like giving birth.
Phase 1 -- pregnancy -- prep for change. - "No! Don't!, I don't wanna!"
Phase 2 -- labor -- (the time of changeover) "I HATE YOU, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! DIE!!!"
Phase 3 -- afterwards -- "what's this? something new? Oh, how cute... I love you".
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I really like what you guys have done with vB, sometimes I forget what xoops was even like! :o
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Sorry to disappoint, but sponsorship participation in the "beautiful young ladies' college education scholarship assistance program"* is only included with a lifetime subscription.
Lucky for you, we're running a special deal on that this week. Only $25,000 USD. Comes with a free week at Viking's Resort (http://cat69.com) in the company of the lady of your choice.
(*= I was reminded to be politically correct in referencing hookers. Seems they object to the term hooker.. Can't imagine why.)
Let me think about that!:rtfm:
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I'm not much of a Rugby fan, sorry.
Put me on the hooker list as well. thanks
2. Hooker
Hookers are a key position in attacking and defensive play. The name is derived from the fact that hookers use their feet to 'hook' the ball in the scrum; because of the pressure put on the body by the scrum it is considered to be one of the most dangerous positions to play. They also normally throw the ball in at line-outs. Hookers have more in common with back row forwards than props or locks only during line-outs as they have a roving role at line-outs. Hookers typically are a key player in the scrum as they are the main force pushing and resisting, although some teams give the responsibility to the props. In addition, hookers may act as an extra prop in the scrum, instead of contesting the feed, to wreak havoc on opposition feeds.
The hooker is assisted by the props in scrums and often leads a ruck. In defensive play, the hooker will regularly be the main attacker in most open-ended plays. In more complicated moves, the Hooker may remain a defence for the backs. Hookers are usually the leaders in most attacking moves and tend to control the forwards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_union_positions#2._Hooker
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I think the rep thing is silly. Because you can have a person who doesn't know their stuff, but posts a lot, and this creates the illusion of being reputable. Then someone say who is a developer and posts once a while has little rep points. It creates a forum where those with many rep points brag about their skills. Those also can "shut down" a new member because they have been around for a while. This is already common on Lemon 64. Come on, we are all adults, we don't need rep points (this isn't Kindergarten). I don't know about you, but I help without need for rewards, and the person getting the feedback should base it on multiple opinions anyways.
It also creates a ONE WAY street, where the other side has nothing to say... Not to mention that there could be retaliation or personal attacks because one prson does not like this user etc.
exactly
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I tell you. Getting people off Xoops to vB was like giving birth.
Phase 1 -- pregnancy -- prep for change. - "No! Don't!, I don't wanna!"
Phase 2 -- labor -- (the time of changeover) "I HATE YOU, THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! DIE!!!"
Phase 3 -- afterwards -- "what's this? something new? Oh, how cute... I love you".
That actually made me laugh out loud. :lol::roflmao:
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... aaaand officially, I am the first victim... :-)
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Hey Wayne,
Amiga.org has made great progress. I like it now :-) (if it means anything)!!!
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@koaftder
Private? Perhaps putting it on and see it run for 30 days might be a good idea?
perhaps a rep point total should be 0 (never negative) and the rest positive but with a cap (some number to be maximum like 100%?). But rather than use Rep points i'd say make it like Amiga helpful points... something to make it more indicitive...
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... aaaand officially, I am the first victim... :-)
Victim of what? You flatter yourself. There are others who have received negative rep far before you.. :)
Wayne
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Apparently someone gave rep to a Doomy clone from a post in 2004. Gotta love it.
Wayne
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I have to reply to this thread just to see where my rep points are at the moment. Scanning down the list of people replying here, I think almost all of them had less than their starting 10 rep points, so I wonder what all of you have been doing to each other's scores? LOL
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Dave you're only 1 rep point above me!!! I dunno. i always try to be helpful on here :-D
Wayne> any chance Doomy would be back on here? (the added Entertainment is priceless hehe).
I definitely would stay away from a.org names when signing on like Doommaster, Doomer, etc. lol.
I remember some new guy on here getting ripped by people who thought he was Doomy. Funny thing, i did buy stuff from Doomy once, and it was working and I did receive it... I must be in like top 10% in that class??? lol.
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Dave you're only 1 rep point above me!!! I dunno. i always try to be helpful on here :-D
Wayne> any chance Doomy would be back on here? (the added Entertainment is priceless hehe).
I definitely would stay away from a.org names when signing on like Doommaster, Doomer, etc. lol.
I remember some new guy on here getting ripped by people who thought he was Doomy. Funny thing, i did buy stuff from Doomy once, and it was working and I did receive it... I must be in like top 10% in that class??? lol.
I know! Where did my missing 3 rep points that I was supposed to have started with go to? Actually I am not surprised that some are missing as I have gotten into a few heated discussions here over the years. :furious:
I feel sorry for the guy(s) that have fallen down to a 2, man they must have really pissed a bunch of people off.
I try to be helpful here as well Terminator4, but it is hard to do when I have a limited amount of Amiga intelligence left over from the late 80's when I actually thought I knew something. :roflmao:
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I have to reply to this thread just to see where my rep points are at the moment. Scanning down the list of people replying here, I think almost all of them had less than their starting 10 rep points, so I wonder what all of you have been doing to each other's scores? LOL
You are confusing reputation points with reputation power. The figure under your avatar is your reputation power, not your reputation point value.
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You are confusing reputation points with reputation power. The figure under your avatar is your reputation power, not your reputation point value.
sorry but i'm a bit "slow" lately ... from where it come from i.e. my 10 "reputation power"? from the count posts?
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sorry but i'm a bit "slow" lately ... from where it come from i.e. my 10 "reputation power"? from the count posts?
I think it's an initial value that is set. If everybody started at zero, and the only way to get reputation power was by receiving reputation from other people, the system would be pointless.
The reputation power is a function of your reputation score (and possibly other factors like post count), but it includes some initial non-zero starting point to make sure the system can actually be used.
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The only post of mine to receive any +/- points received a +1 whilst simultaneously receiving a -1 for allegedly being inflammatory. Either I have the ability to be informatively inflammatory, or the report button should be renamed "I'm having a hissy fit about this post."
To be honest, I thought that it was a waste of time, and knowing who is raising or lowering your reputation is likely to cause a tit for tat war. If we were voting, I'd pick the "who cares" option.
Hans
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@Hans
Speaking of voting, maybe we should have a poll on this for like a 2 week period to see what everyone feels like. 1 vote per user?? But thats up to Wayne :-D
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You are confusing reputation points with reputation power. The figure under your avatar is your reputation power, not your reputation point value.
Ah yes, you are correct. I understand better now.
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No problem. It may seem a pretty confusing system at first but you soon get the hang of it.
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I say turn it back on, it was fun trying to catch up with Karlos... I was only 1 away then he jumped up another point!!!
The fun part tying to say something so helpful that loads of people rep you :D
Hi,
@bloodline, & Wayne
I totally agree with bloodline on this, hey we support our real helpful people, and bloodline is one of the few on this site that tries to be helpful and not put out a bunch of bull like some people I know do. (me) but I only do it to troll sometimes. (well often), (well maybe too much).
smerf