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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Software News => Topic started by: paolone on November 27, 2008, 01:21:12 AM
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The next release of VmwAROS will include a new feature called AmiBridge, a powerful scripting tool which will allow running AmigaOS applications straight from AROS, using E-UAE.
On the VmwAROS website there is a video (http://vmwaros.blogspot.com/2008/11/introducing-amibridge.html) which explains how AmiBridge works.
Users will have to provide a legal Amiga ROM image and install their old AmigaOS files and applications in the right directories (they won't be included in VmwAROS). Users of Amiga Forever will be even happier, since AmiBridge supports Cloanto's environment and applications directly. Once files are properly installed, adding launch scripts to AROS and running applications is matter of a few mouse clicks.
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Is the clipboard shared?
Can you multiselect files and start them so that the 68k application gets them as wbstartup args?
Can you start 68k applications from shell and pass arguments to them?
Can you drag icons to the 68k applications?
Do the 68k application appicons appear on the host desktop?
Can you share data between separate 68k applications?
Can you access the host filesystem transparently from within the 68k applications?
Can the 68k applications communicate via ARexx?
Does it support programs that run in multiple windows, with freedom to drag and resize the windows on the host desktop?
Can 68k apps open to specific host pubscreen, and can they jump between ones?
Can you run MUI 68k apps?
Can you run networking 68k apps?
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@piru
Why the sudden interest in aros ? :lol:
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Is this going to get me laid?
Can it solve world hunger?
Can it cure Aids?
Will it eject 68 dollar notes from the host disc drive?
Can it run Windows XP?
Can one ask so many rhetorical questions without being considered a fool?
Can i think of any more (valid) but useless questions?
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Right. So no 68k app support then, after all.
What happened to the 68k emulation integration project?
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True! But its a small start!
UAE integration project is awaiting a suitable Developer, $2500 is waiting (http://www.power2people.org/bounty_001.html)
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Did you read what this was? Some scripts to start UAE for you automatically.
Just like the program for WinUAE that will launch Firefox or Internet Explorer for you from an Amiga Icon. It doesn't make AmigaOS3.9 fully intigrate Windows Vista.
Chill out. :-)
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Ok, I have understood the meaning of these questions, however the answer is yes only to "Can you access the host filesystem transparently from within the 68k applications?" and "Can the 68k applications communicate via ARexx?" (but within them), for the rest, you have to wait a smarter version of E-UAE.
AmiBridge is meant to allow people use 68K apps to do tasks that AROS doesn't allow to, for the moment, because there isn't yet a proper application. If you want to keep using your 1989 software the way you used it in 1989, just use your 1989 computer.
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@paolone
I guess that Piru questions are motivated because E-UAE for MorphOS already includes these scripts and OS4 has GLUAE (http://aminet.net/package/misc/emu/glUAE)... so it's not so "new" as it has been done before already twice.
BTW, WinUAE has shared clipboard.
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MorphOS and OS4 have this already? Great! But so what? This is about AROS!
It may be a small step but its a positive step none the less.
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@paolone
Many thanks!
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@paolone
Well done sir. It is a great addition to AROS. It is at least a start towards real 68k native support.
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Well done sir. It is a great addition to AROS. It is at least a start towards real 68k native support.
Thanks. As I've said before, AmiBridge's goal is not to integrate 68K code support, but to build a bridge from AROS to AmigaOS. You know how bridges work: it allows people to reach the other side of the river, but not as easy as if the river wouldn't be there. Take this as a workaround until better/newer applications will be created/ported on AROS.
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@paolone
Thanks. As I've said before, AmiBridge's goal is not to integrate 68K code support, but to build a bridge from AROS to AmigaOS. You know how bridges work: it allows people to reach the other side of the river, but not as easy as if the river wouldn't be there. Take this as a workaround until better/newer applications will be created/ported on AROS.
How that bridge is different from WinUAE running on XP? I mean, there you can start your favourite game by clicking a sortcut on your desktop. UAE launcher for AROS is not (yet) much...
Anyway congrats.
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Thanks. As I've said before, AmiBridge's goal is not to integrate 68K code support, but to build a bridge from AROS to AmigaOS. You know how bridges work: it allows people to reach the other side of the river, but not as easy as if the river wouldn't be there. Take this as a workaround until better/newer applications will be created/ported on AROS.
Yes I realise that. What I meant is it may spur on development to real 68k integration.
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Nice...
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How that bridge is different from WinUAE running on XP? I mean, there you can start your favourite game by clicking a sortcut on your desktop. UAE launcher for AROS is not (yet) much...
There is only a practical difference. Scripts you're talking about generally launch UAE with a customized configuration file, in order to create the right emulation environment for that game. We can call this a sort of "ADF-oriented" script.
AmiBridge goes little further, modifying the S: files in the emulation environment. So I prefer to call it an "application-oriented" script. Maybe future revisions will allow to create different uaerc.config files for ADFs, but writing another GUI for e-uae was not my primary goal.
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Yes I realise that. What I meant is it may spur on development to real 68k integration
That's something I hope too. Lack of support to 68K apps is probably the heaviest wall that prevents Amigans to look at AROS as a viable platform. I believe AmiBridge won't destroy that wall, but at least it will give it two huge slams. ;-)
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@Paolone
Good luck with further development. I hope AROS will start to pick more pace in this area. I agree that 68k is a massive gap for AROS. It really needs this for Amiga users to start to look at it with any seriousness.