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Title: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: neongod on June 17, 2008, 08:37:29 PM
The new MUI based MSN client for OS4 which development was started two months ago now reached AmigaOS3.x!

The Alpha 20 supports nearly everything the OS4 version had. It has file transfer, emoticon support, "user is typing" notification, logging and log reloading, sound alerts, utf8 conversion and even nudges (they shake the window just like on Windows).

SabreMSN requires MUI3.8, Nlist.mcc, codesets.library, AmiSSL v3 and gif/png/jpg datatypes to work properly.

http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/ (http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/)
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: Phantom on June 17, 2008, 08:57:28 PM
Great news, after Jabberwocky, SabreMSN is good to hear that is available on OS3.9.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: cv643d on June 17, 2008, 10:57:46 PM
Cant someone make a good module player for OS4 too? Please...

Deli/Eagleplayer refuse to run. Hippo runs but a bit unstable sometimes.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: amiwalker on June 18, 2008, 12:25:54 AM
Just tried on os3.9 BB2

Will connect, but not displaying contacts in the window???

Why?
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: AmigaMance on June 18, 2008, 12:35:29 AM
That's what i like about Jahc! He supports every Amiga platform, not just one.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: amigadave on June 18, 2008, 04:42:49 AM
Always great to hear that developers are still supporting OS3.x, as there are really so few Amiga users that are able to run OS4.0.

With projects like NatAmi, and  products for classic Amigas like Deneb, software enhancements like EasyNet, OS3.x will still be around for a long time.

Who knows when the legal problems will be over for OS4.0, or if we will ever have new hardware for it again?  I wonder if the OS4 team is even working on it anymore, now that the legal case has gone on for so long and the chances of Hyperion winning are very much in doubt?
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: jahc on June 18, 2008, 10:55:54 AM
Quote
Just tried on os3.9 BB2

Will connect, but not displaying contacts in the window???

Why?

Thats one of the last two major bugs I'm trying to work out.

1. It doesnt connect every time when you try to connect. Sometimes you need to retry 3-4 times in a row before it works.

2. The contacts list arent displayed in full (or at all) sometimes. Again, reconnecting 2-3 seems to fix it most of the time.

Once those two issues are solved, I'll probably announce v1.0. At the moment its still in alpha! Well, actually, its probably pretty "beta" now, but I guess it doesnt matter what I name it. :)
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: krize on June 18, 2008, 12:23:38 PM
AHh thank you ! Installed and running, will be fun to try more...

Great work jahc! This looks like THE Msn software for Amigas..

- Up and running :) Now waiting for a mos exe to play with ;)
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: keropi on June 18, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
wow it is just GREAT!!!!
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: lempkee on June 18, 2008, 01:00:58 PM
@Amigadave

Why would they stop OS4 development because of a lawsuit?.

And no,its not stopped.

@Jahc

well done on SabreMSN , hopefully there will be more people sending in reports of problems or features missing etc.

keep up the good work man.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: leirbag28 on June 18, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
@jahc

Dang dude!  SERIOUS Props to you............thanks for this!  I cant wait to try it.

You know Amiga is THE machine to really have all these kinds of things for, because they do it for the consoles even..............so all these necessary softwares should be available for Amiga.

The only thing missing now is Yahoo Insatnt Messenger and Google Talk :-)

We even have Gadami :-)
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: jahc on June 18, 2008, 01:56:41 PM
The feedback I've received seems relatively evenly split between "it works!" and "it freezes!" .. I'm happy when I hear of it working for another user.

I'll have to do a MorphOS compile over the next few days. I'll rope someone into testing with me later, because I'll be cross compiling, no MOS machine to test it on, just like with WookieChat development :)

Btw guys, if the software works well for you, and you have paypal... donations are always welcome. I hate to hold out the hand here, but we had several bills come in over the last 2-3 weeks and we're struggling to pay off the overdraft and credit card we used to cover them. I wont ask again, as I realise it this type of request is annoying. :)

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: hooligan on June 18, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
Isnt UADE ported?
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: jahc on June 18, 2008, 03:08:52 PM
It has been ported, but its command line only unfortunately. I wonder how hard it would be to hack a GUI on top of it? I was able to form a GUI around SDL_Mixer years ago, took about 3 days of disjointed coding to get 99% of the work done. :)
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: amigadave on June 18, 2008, 03:24:02 PM
@lempkee,

Why would the OS4 team stop development on their work that they haven't been paid for, might never get paid for, parts of their work might get stolen through the courts by their hated enemy, there continues to be no hardware for their work and the limited past hardware that does run their work is not enough to justify their continued efforts, and maybe they are just fed up with the whole fiasco and legal crap like the rest of us?

I don't want them to stop working on further improvements, but I wonder what their attitude and feelings about continuing their work for little or no payment for their work is like?  Are they confident that Hyperion is going to win the court case, or cases, or do they think that the outcome will not stop them from continuing their work no matter what AInc. does?
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: a-pex on June 18, 2008, 03:48:47 PM
Do you see any chance to support the ICQ protocol?
PLEASE. :-) There are so many MSN clients outside, but noone is supporting ICQ. All my friends use ICQ, noone is using MSN.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: 0amigan0 on June 18, 2008, 03:57:03 PM
@a-pex:

Use Jabberwocky !

http://jabberwocky.amigaworld.de/
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: Gav on June 18, 2008, 06:45:37 PM
This is great news indeed but i'm having problems,when the program starts it says something about the stack size of background object cli being to small.
How do i change this?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: neuroflip on June 18, 2008, 06:50:20 PM
@a-pex:

Or you can use WookieChat too, connecting to a bitlbee public servers.



i cant get AmiSSL3 working to test SabreMSN :S

nice piece of software you develope jahc!
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: amiwalker on June 18, 2008, 08:57:15 PM
Just tried to connect again several times. Still says it is connected, but my MSN contacts do not show up in the window??

Does it show your existing contacts, or do you have to add them again?

If I try to add a contact (by typing in their email address) after I press ok the requester goes away and the contact list still shows nothing.

Multiview will show .gif .png .jpg
Amissl is installed
and MUI is also installed.

What I can't see is the icon for the main program. What must I have to see it in the Work Bench window?

Hope this info is helpfull!

PS:
   As soon as I get it working I will donate via PayPal.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: Gav on June 19, 2008, 03:54:22 AM
Nevermind i got it working now,this truly is a something i have been waiting a long time for.
I never used my amiga as much these days due to lack of a decent msn client that was simple to use as jabber was not stable for me.
Thanks for this great program as now i imagine i will be using my amiga lot more.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: jahc on June 19, 2008, 06:21:28 AM
Quote
Just tried to connect again several times. Still says it is connected, but my MSN contacts do not show up in the window??

Does it show your existing contacts, or do you have to add them again?

If I try to add a contact (by typing in their email address) after I press ok the requester goes away and the contact list still shows nothing.

Multiview will show .gif .png .jpg
Amissl is installed
and MUI is also installed.

What I can't see is the icon for the main program. What must I have to see it in the Work Bench window?

Hope this info is helpfull!

PS:
As soon as I get it working I will donate via PayPal.

The stack size might not be high enough. I've reuploaded an archive with an icon thats compatible with OS3 and has a correct (or maybe even overkill) stack size. Also, this archive has IFF ILBM emoticons and white backgrounds for the main smileys too. The exe is unchanged from the previoius release though.
http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/sabremsn/SabreOS3_20080619.lha

Also, some users might like to download the new IFF ILBM smiley set separately:
http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/sabremsn/IFF_ILBM_smileys.lha
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: jj on June 19, 2008, 10:20:32 AM
Just out of curoisty, does this aloow you to add custome emotions i.e jhas it got an add option by right clicking on an emotion someone else has put in their message
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: jahc on June 19, 2008, 11:32:30 AM
No the downloadable emoticons arent supported yet.. dont know if they'll ever be.
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: Crumb on June 19, 2008, 02:47:04 PM
@a-pex

take StrICQ sources and update it to support latest protocol.

In contrast, most of my friends use MSN... there are no graphic clients that allow sending/receiving files with MSN users.

You can use Jabberwocky ATM...
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: AeroMan on June 20, 2008, 01:03:58 AM
I'm a poor guy...

What are the hardware requirements for it to run ??
Title: Re: SabreMSN for AmigaOS3.x
Post by: dake1 on June 28, 2008, 08:38:03 AM
Thanx for a great and wonderfull work.
I use SabreMSN in Morphos, everything works great except filetransfer.
If i send a very small file it works, but if i try to send for example a mp3,
this fails.
Recieve files dont work at all.