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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: AndreasM on May 16, 2008, 01:48:49 AM
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It is already known that we try to reprint the English Amiga Guru Book by Ralph Babel.
Some additions were also planned to the original book.
The German Amiga Guru Book is available for some time now.
Nevertheless some Amiga users needed to put some pirated copies of the book online.
The print material is ready and actually we wanted to give it to the printing press.
But since several weeks there is a torrent with a pirated copy of the English Amiga Guru Book online.
Due to the fact that some Amiga users don't show up any support towards those who keep their platform up and try to supply them with information this project is hereby discontinued.
That's why the Amiga Future project AGG which should be financed through the reprint has also been discontinued.
Original statement by Ralph Babel:
Unfortunately, the release of the 800-page extended edition of the Amiga Guru Book (covering OS 3.x and beyond) scheduled for April was preempted by some fool seeding a scan of the older version into one of those pirate-to-pirate networks, eliminating all hopes of me ever being able to recover the cost of a reprint, so the project had to be stopped immediately to avoid further loss of time and money. Thank you, Keith.
http://babel.de
http://www.apc-tcp.de
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Pirates suck. :madashell:
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Anyway, I don't see the point in cancelling the release of this book.
I would be interested in purchase a copy. Even I would pre-pay for it. And I am not the only one.
That is why I encourage you to go ahead with the publication of the Guru Book.
Cheers
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I could, quite possibly, get my hands on the PDF but it's not what I want.
I want a book. I want to be able to sit on my couch and read it, without my laptop burning a hole in my pants.
I want the smell of paper, I want it bound, not some stupid ring-bound do-it-yourself printed PDF thing.
Please reconsider!
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The additions must have been extremely minor if an "older version" becoming available online makes the new version unprofitable.
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The additions must have been extremely minor if an "older version" becoming available online makes the new version unprofitable.
Only very little changes were made from Kickstart 2.x to 3.x...
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I absolutely agree with Tahoe. A book is a Book.
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@All: if you are interested in getting a copy of the real book, "sign" the list we are making in this same forum...
As i write this, we are 24 people who are willing to buy the book, and only 1 day has passed since original statement...
C´mon guys, lets give our support to this!!
I also want a book!!! A real, with paper book!
Nothing beats a good book when i have to go to the WC!!!! (In which i read most of my Amiga stuff, since i love to spend 40 minutes or more there...
Sebastian
:-D :-D
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Why invest lots of money for a reprint when you can use a service like CafePress Self Publishing (http://www.cafepress.com/cp/info/sell/products/books)? :-? There is a base price and you choose the retail price and earn the difference between the retail price and their base price :idea:
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Or Lulu or.... There are plenty ways to make print on demand happen these days, but is it the real issue. If they wanted to release the book they definitely had found ways to do it.
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Huh. So, this means now I'll have to search out the offending PDF because it'll be the only way to get my hands on the book?!?
I was looking forward to this.
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Poster: itix Posted: 2008/5/16 4:45:34
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The additions must have been extremely minor if an "older version" becoming available online makes the new version unprofitable.
Only very little changes were made from Kickstart 2.x to 3.x...
Yeah, but it sure would be better if we could get the updated book with all the info instead of the older original version.
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Original statement by Ralph Babel:
Unfortunately, the release of the 800-page extended edition of the Amiga Guru Book (covering OS 3.x and beyond) scheduled for April was preempted by some fool seeding a scan of the older version into one of those pirate-to-pirate networks, eliminating all hopes of me ever being able to recover the cost of a reprint, so the project had to be stopped immediately to avoid further loss of time and money.
Thank you, Keith.
[color=5555FF]After I posted elsewhere that I wanted to buy another edition of Ralphs EXCELLENT book (and also pay him extra money for a pw protected & searchable PDF)
Some "Keith" email replied, but I cant imagine that this is a picture of the actual parasite: http://dontclickthis.whatingods.name/moobs.jpg
I hope you all will join me in sending money to Ralph for this MOST excellent Amiga book of books.
Jeri and I love this book very much and have learned very much from it over the years.
Joe Torre
P.S. Thanks to Alain Penders who first showed me his (english!) Amiga Guru book when I was traveling thru Belgium 1997 while working the planet for Amiga, Inc. @ Gateway)[/color]
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Why invest lots of money for a reprint when you can use a service like CafePress Self Publishing? There is a base price and you choose the retail price and earn the difference between the retail price and their base price
I agree.
This is so obviously disingenuous.
Why can't people be honest and say 'I can't be arsed' or 'X pissed me off' or 'I hate the Amiga Community'.
Most people who wanted this book would pay a handsome margin on top of the CafePress price.
ACK used to do this kind of thing regularly - magic up a 'saviour' product for the community and then blame 'errant' members for the non appearance of that product.
For this, they should be sentenced to spend a night in a room listening and watching Doomy sing 'Only Amiga'.
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I created a proper online petition so that we can show Ralph how many people would still purchase the book, given a chance, and I am spreading the link around all the Amiga sites I'm a member of. Please sign the petition if you'd like to see the situation change.
Link is here:
http://www.petitiononline.com/4m1ga123/petition.html
Thank you.
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Sorry, I don't sign online petitions, besides weren't people already asked to register their interest with AndreasM when the reprint was first announced?
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cybernoid wrote:
A book is a Book
How very perceptive :-P
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moto
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That's too sad really. I thought that Amiga-pirate guys don't even exist these days, but I was wrong.
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@Phantom
I believe it's called abandonware these days.
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Hmmm...
I'm sure that people who are genuinely interested in such a book would actually buy it. Despite that people have gone and made it available via other means.
My uncle has produced his first children's book, he used a printing company to have something like 300 books printed. My uncle paid for those books upfront and since recovered his money by selling almost all the copies.
I would imagine that a small number of books could be printed, though at a slightly higher cost, and still be sold.
I also recently ordered some printed linux material. I know all the information was public knowledge, just bash commands and some other basic information, but I still bought a printed manuals because I wanted real books, and not just some ,.pdf or .txt file.
I doubt that I need this Guru book, but I hope that others can still enjoy a printed copy.