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Title: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga joyboard!
Post by: humppa on December 16, 2007, 05:37:50 PM
No, it's not the first of April. A new "Zen medititation game" for the Atari 2600 is currently being developed which makes use of the (in)famous Amiga joyboard. Coming soon in cartridge form for your Atari.

More information here (http://www.bogost.com/games/guru_meditation.shtml)

Some graphically stunning screengrabs:

guru1.jpg (http://www.bogost.com/images/content/games/guru1.jpg)
guru2.jpg (http://www.bogost.com/images/content/games/guru2.jpg)
guru3.jpg (http://www.bogost.com/images/content/games/guru3.jpg)
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: weirdami on December 16, 2007, 10:07:35 PM
It would never sell, because people would pan the graphics, even though the lack of moderny graphics is the whole point, but these days he could probably have a joyboard with built in games that attaches to your TV instead of just putting out a cartridge for 2600's and hope people still have a joyboard somewhere.
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: AMC258 on December 16, 2007, 11:42:41 PM
Do any of these actually exist anymore?  I wouldn't mind having one.  I'd hook it to my A3000.
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: robo-ant on December 16, 2007, 11:57:56 PM
I must be the intended market for this game.

I have an Atari 2600, and I have a Joyboard, *and* I keep meaning to learn meditation.  Not necessarily Zen, though.
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: AMC258 on December 17, 2007, 01:30:29 AM
Meditation is incredibly simple.  If you're religious, and you know how to pray, meditation is just like that only you're not praying.
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: MarkTime on December 17, 2007, 05:46:28 AM
I'm completing a couple Colecovision cartridges for sale on AtariAge.com

A well designed homebrew for the Atari 2600 could sell 400 carts or so.   The homebrew scene isn't about people who still have 2600's....some still have them, many just returned to the scene.  It's growing rapidly too.  People like retro gaming.

I'm not predicting such high sales for this game, but the graphics aren't going to be an issue...those are actually quite nice graphics for the 2600.

I'm porting the game Frog Feast, and doing my own game, Pacific Fleet for colecovision.

Another Amiga Tie-in...Frog Feast, by RastorSoft, was reviewed in one of the recent issues of an Amiga magazine.

It's really a cool scene...I'm surprised I haven't seen more Amiga ties....

I may port Pacific Fleet to Amiga...seems like a natural move.
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: weirdami on December 17, 2007, 08:21:43 AM
400 seems like a goodly number to me. more than i would have expected, had i been expecting such things, i expect. What do they go for? And, are there people that gripe about the cost like they do around here?
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: Plaz on December 17, 2007, 12:41:25 PM
As one who messed with some 2600 programming a while back, I can tell you there's still retro  homebrew activity going on for the old Atari. Here's a good article on the subject, though it's a couple years old now...

Atari 2600 Homebrew Scene (http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/a/4849)

Plaz
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: Colani1200 on December 17, 2007, 12:49:58 PM
Unbelievable...  :-o  :lol:
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: MarkTime on December 17, 2007, 04:11:38 PM
@weirdami

http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/05/20/atari_2600_homebrew.html

This is from 2004 where the game "Ultra SCSIcide" had been mentioned at selling 200 copies.

That requires paddles...it shouldn't be the best seller, but it probably was one of the better games in 2004.  Now, other games have surpassed it.

On the colecovision side, the best games sell at about 200 copies, with other games selling at 50...and these are all top quality games.  I assume that some of the...I won't say amateur, but lets say some of the less sophisticated efforts probably sell in very low quantities indeed.

But I am targetting 100 copies for my games, which I think is realistic.

Rastorsoft did most of the versions of frog feast, and the amiga cd32 version was produced in a 100 copy limited edition.

I may eventually target various platforms once my code base is finalized for pacific fleet...going for about 100 copies per platform, maybe I will get sales in the thousand range someday.

Its mostly for fun....little change....and actually lots of fun to do.

on the costs: $20 and $25 are common costs for 2600 carts (4k or 8k roms determine the price).  There are other cart types 'supermemory' modules etc. for 2600 that require a higher price.

People are mostly respectful that this is a hobby scene, and despite the costs, the programmers are doing this for basically minimum wage...effort vs. return, etc.

Even Frog Feast, which is a port, has taken me about 80 hours, and I will basically get very little back in return for it.

Pacific Fleet, which is original, will take upwards of 200 hours to complete.
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: hardlink on December 17, 2007, 04:25:34 PM
>> Do any of these actually exist anymore?

Yes, I have one, and they are not that hard to get - anyone actually using one for games soon develops sore knee joints :)

I'm not interested in the Atari version, what I want is a/the Amiga version! I say 'the', because the RJ Mical program, the inspiration for the Guru Meditation numbers during the original Amiga development, has apparently been lost. So if I ever get 'free' time, I may have to write a replacement (fat chance).
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: voxel on December 17, 2007, 07:25:45 PM
>> Do any of these actually exist anymore?

I have one too :-)

what about an Amiga game for it?
Title: Re: "Guru Meditation" - a new game for the Amiga j
Post by: Terse on December 18, 2007, 01:05:21 AM
It's built into the OS!