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Title: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: AmigaPapst on November 23, 2007, 05:14:21 PM
Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce that AmigaOS 4.0 for PowerPC equipped Amiga 1200/3000/4000's has gone gold and should be available for sale around 30 November depending on location.

Further information can be found here (http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/news/2007-10-23).

Prospective customers are once more encouraged to verify the (regularly updated) compatibility list (http://www.acube-systems.com/compatibility/) prior to purchase.

AmigaOS 4.0 for classic Amiga's will be distributed worldwide by Acube Systems s.r.l.. (http://www.acube-systems.com/)

http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/news/2007-11-22
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: amigakit on November 23, 2007, 07:03:29 PM
We hope to be selling this product through our webstore on date of release.

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=764
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Wilse on November 23, 2007, 07:03:50 PM
Well done - a long time coming but welcome.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: amigagr on November 23, 2007, 08:38:36 PM
Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce...   ...has gone gold...

sounds promissing but what exactly means?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Akiko on November 23, 2007, 08:52:26 PM
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sounds promissing but what exactly means?


A term used when software has reached completion, is ready to be published and distributed  :)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: RWO on November 23, 2007, 09:25:05 PM
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Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce... ...has gone gold...

sounds promissing but what exactly means?

In this case it means no more bug fixes or changes and the ISO have been send to the duplicators :)

RWO
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: InTheSand on November 24, 2007, 12:12:37 AM
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no more bug fixes


Yeah, right!!!! :-)

 - Ali
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: RWO on November 24, 2007, 12:33:12 AM
@InTheSand

I dident say it was bug free, just that time was up and the were not more time for Bug fixes if they wanted to keep the dead line.

An Operation System is never finshed but you got to release at some point. So when there are no more Show stoppers in the Bugzilla database then its a good time to release it.

RWO
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: motorollin on November 24, 2007, 11:06:18 AM
This is great news. Given all the stick Hyperion have got over the years, I think it's only fair that they are congratulated for finally getting this done.

Now, who wants to give me a CSPPC? ;-)

--
moto
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: cv643d on November 24, 2007, 11:40:07 AM
Motorollin:
I have a BPPC and PPCvision for sale here for 550 euro I think.

I want to keep my CSPPC.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: motorollin on November 24, 2007, 03:19:27 PM
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cv643d wrote:
I have a BPPC and PPCvision for sale here for 550 euro I think

Thanks, but I don't have an A1200 (even if I could afford it :-) )

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moto
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: hooligan on November 24, 2007, 05:00:11 PM
Excellent. And only five years too late :-)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Tomas on November 24, 2007, 05:07:21 PM
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sounds promissing but what exactly means?

I think that means that the code is now completely finished and that the master cd or whatever is about to be duplicated into consumer cds.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: bhoggett on November 24, 2007, 05:36:25 PM
Usually, going "Gold" means you have reached a certain number of sold units (half a million?).

In AmigaLand, it means announcing that your product is nearly released.  :roll:

(Yes, I know about the so-called "Gold Master", but I'm not aware of anyone else announcing making one. Most people just announce the release.)


As for the actual product itself, excuse me if I don't wet my pants in excitement. Five years ago it might have mattered, but now?...

Actually, it might have bumped up the ridiculously inflated value of my mothballed A4000, assuming it still works, but aside from that it doesn't really matter in the greater scheme of things any more, which is meagre return for six years of promises and aloof arrogance from the Hyperion boys.

I can't believe people are having a court case over something that simply doesn't matter any more.
 :-?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Matt_H on November 24, 2007, 06:41:35 PM
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Usually, going "Gold" means you have reached a certain number of sold units (half a million?).

In AmigaLand, it means announcing that your product is nearly released.:roll:

Going gold is a pretty standard phrase in the software industry, moreso with games, though. Blizzard (used to) use it all the time for their impending releases.

I think it's only the music industry that uses it to chart number of sales.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: monami on November 24, 2007, 07:29:06 PM
jay miner must have working from beyond the grave. it's hard coding when you're a poltergeist in training. keys are hard to press!

whatever reason it took so long i'm looking forward to some hardware? any news on serious hardware development. (i still remember my dreams of the amijoe...) i'm not willing to buy an xbox and sony's backware compatabilty issues have annoyed me. so maybe there'll be something worth buying soon? here's hoping.  :roll:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: lurkist on November 24, 2007, 07:56:07 PM
Great news, but €74 + VAT + shipping, ouch...

Bad time to be unemployed with dependants!

I'll need to sell some stuff to finance this.  Watch this space...
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: AeroMan on November 24, 2007, 10:59:34 PM
Great news !

    I just would like to have something to run this... It is not that good to the comunity. Check the list:

    A One users: be happy !
    A1200/A4000/A3000 users: Spend some big money!
    A2000 users: go hunting unicorns (Phase V development boards)
    A500/A1000 users: get sad and shoot yourselfes...

     :boohoo:

     ... we need new machines :boohoo:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: alex on November 25, 2007, 12:15:07 AM
Ummm.....So what?

It's almost if like they waited to see if Amiga, Inc would just go bankrupt first so they could keep all the profits and the brand or something.

I don't know, but none of my computers will run this and there are no computers I can buy to run this, so in my world, it might as well simply not exist.

So I guess they will HOPE to find solid developers who happen to have computers that will run this so they can spend another year developing software in hopes that the other 12 people who can possible run the OS and resulting software will buy it.

This is really such a pathetic non-win.

I can't believe I'm actually saying it, but I'm actually interested in this so-called Amiga OS 5.0.  At this point I have a much stronger chance or running it than I will ever have or running 4.0.

Dang!

-Alex
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: 560SL on November 26, 2007, 10:09:03 AM
Grouse! Finally getting some real use of that PPC hardware besides playing an odd mp3 now and then?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Acill on November 26, 2007, 02:08:58 PM
Its a shame according to the list of supported hardware none of my Mediator supported PCI cards will work with it. I may as well just get a used A1 if I wanted to run this this. They say its lack of DMA support, but as far as I know the A3000 and A4000 versions do support this if you got the updated chips.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: TetiSoft on November 26, 2007, 03:30:01 PM
@Acill
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Its a shame according to the list of supported hardware none of my Mediator supported PCI cards will work with it.

It should be possible to use them when you only use the
Elbox drivers for all installed PCI boards.

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They say its lack of DMA support, but as far as I know the A3000 and A4000 versions do support this if you got the updated chips.

You can test it by removing the gfx card from the Mediator,
when the Elbox Ethernet/Sound/USB drivers dont use the
"DMA to PCI gfx board memory" trick they will work without
gfx board. If it really works (I doubt it) any info
about exact Mediator type/version, Mediator chip version,
PCI driver versions are welcome.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Homer on November 26, 2007, 09:02:02 PM
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Hyperion Entertainment is pleased to announce that AmigaOS 4.0 for PowerPC equipped Amiga 1200/3000/4000's has gone gold and should be available for sale around 30 November depending on location.

Hmm, it doesn't mention which year though  :crazy:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Zac67 on November 26, 2007, 09:14:34 PM
heise.de (http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/99577) have commented on the classic release (sorry, German only).
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: iamaboringperson on November 27, 2007, 05:30:38 AM
Isn't it a bit late?
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: AmigaPapst on November 27, 2007, 08:43:09 AM
@iamaboringperson
It's never to late for the beste AmigaOS ever.  :-D
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: AmigaMance on November 27, 2007, 01:50:45 PM
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Great news, but ¤74 + VAT + shipping, ouch...

Bad time to be unemployed with dependants!

  Yeah.. I feel your pain.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Sparky on November 27, 2007, 08:36:43 PM
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh did I laugh when I saw this .. I just popped in to see what is happening in the old Amiga community and there was this nugget.

There must be oh 100 working PPC classic machines around these days ?  Why the hell didn't the numpties release it years ago ?  Why wait for the market to get even smaller ... or have I missed something and there is a new PPC card coming out ? (or maybe they are just going to charge $500 a copy ? :-)

Makes me chuckle to think that the C64/128 hardware scene is more active than the amiga :-)

Oh well .. be nice to read the reviews and see if it was worth the wait.

Regards!
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: monami on November 28, 2007, 09:39:41 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh did I laugh when I saw this ..

glad it cheared up your day!  :-)
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Trev on November 28, 2007, 08:19:50 PM
If Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion weren't in the middle of a lawsuit evaluating Hyperion's performance under the development contract, I doubt OS4 classic would ever have seen the light of day.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Terse on November 28, 2007, 09:35:04 PM
I want to like this news, but it’s really just stupid. So this gives old machines the ability to split more from one another?  It's not good enough to have ECS and AGA differences, or 68000 and 680x0 differences, but now its 68k versus PPC differences?     Maybe it helps get some old machines to work with the PPC-only motherboards that have been sporadically produced over the years  But screw ‘em.  Give me more dev work on classic Amiga OS 3.x and the 68k codebase.  Unless of course OS 4 comes with a PPC add on I can use in my Amiga 500, 600, 1000, CDTV, 2000, 3000, CD32, and 4000.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: lurkist on November 28, 2007, 10:19:52 PM
I am genuinely surprised and disappointed at some of the negative comments regarding this release.  I know I moaned a little about the price, but I do believe it is a major breakthrough for "classic" Amiga users.  We all knew it would never happen for 68k, so surely this is the next best thing?
Also, I'm certain there are many more PPCs out there than some people seem to think.
This is a time for celebration.  Break out the ale!  :pint:
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: alex on November 28, 2007, 11:03:55 PM
Man, believe me, I hate to pee in the pudding and boy would I love to have a copy of AmigaOS 4.0, but let's face the facts.

Hyperion gambled and lost big time.  Not only did we lose because all the hardware vendors left the market due to the delay, but they lost because there is NO WAY for them to recoup their cost of development and turn any reasonable profit.

This is a textbook case of bad business strategy and planning.

So it's over.  Dead.  Caput.  No hardware, no AmigaOS 4.0.

Hate to be that harsh about it.  Hyperion simply pulled an Irving Gould or Medhi Ali on this one.

For the handful of people who do have the PPC card and will buy the software, great for them.  If they can find developers for their rare boards, even better.

In the meantime, I say enjoy you current kit.  Developers should keep developing for it and we'll see what Amiga 5.0 turns out to be.

Don't feel sad.  It's not like you were getting any real browser, extra media tools like iMovie, iPhoto, better IDE tools, etc.  

-Alex
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: arnljot on November 30, 2007, 12:53:45 PM
Gold = 50.000 sold titles??

Is there 50.000 active amiga PPC users??

Everywhere else it's considered that selling to gold, og "going gold" means selling 50.000 units. Like from the music industry. Except in the US where it means to sell 500.000 units....

How many are sold?? :-o
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: bhoggett on November 30, 2007, 01:58:01 PM
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I am genuinely surprised and disappointed at some of the negative comments regarding this release.

I think it's a question of realism. If you've been living under a rock for the past decade and still think Amigas are the be all and end all of one's computing experience, then this is exciting news. If you haven't, you know it's too little, and far, far too late.

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Also, I'm certain there are many more PPCs out there than some people seem to think.

Maybe, but most will be like mine: mothballed several years ago, when it outlived its usefulness and became too flaky and expensive to maintain to warrant further effort. Any money I'd spend on software for it now would be like throwing it off the top of a tower block and hoping some of it might float back to me on the wind, because the hardware is likely to keel over and die at any time even in the event that it still works now - and when it dies, it's a nightmare and an absolute fortune to replace, not to mention that you're likely to be facing extensive downtime in the process.

It just doesn't make much sense. If you want to buy it for ideological reasons, that's great, but from a practical standpoint it's a bit of a stillborn baby.

Hyperion made stupid commercial decisions all the way down the line and lost, end of story. The Amiga's last stand is over with the predictable result.
Title: Re: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic has gone Gold!
Post by: Framiga on December 02, 2007, 01:09:45 PM
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Gold = 50.000 sold titles??Is there 50.000 active amiga PPC users??Everywhere else it's considered that selling to gold, og "going gold" means selling 50.000 units. Like from the music industry. Except in the US where it means to sell 500.000 units....


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