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Title: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: jahc on October 22, 2007, 01:02:22 AM: On November 30 AmigaOS4 will ship for Classic Amigas. Hyperion made the announcement at AmiWest banquet. The following will be included in the package:

* CD-Rom with AmigaOS4
* One floppy disk to boot your Amiga. No pre-installed OS will be needed
* Manual

Note: More details were found out during an IRC session. The answers were posted here:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24512&forum=33
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: amigagr on October 22, 2007, 01:12:31 AM: at last :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Crom00 on October 22, 2007, 01:45:06 AM: Have to admit... all craziness aside.. pretty cool!
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Crom00 on October 22, 2007, 01:45:51 AM: Have to admit... all craziness aside.. pretty cool!
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: redrumloa on October 22, 2007, 02:30:53 AM: I wonder if we will get clarification from Amiga Inc tomorrow :-?
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: K7HTH on October 22, 2007, 05:30:09 AM: Am I dreaming?
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Nautilus on October 22, 2007, 05:58:05 AM: How many Classic PPC users are out there?
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: AmigaMance on October 22, 2007, 06:00:23 AM: At last! Now all i want to hear is a reasonable price. I've heard some rumors about at least 100 euros. Let's hope that they are just rumors

@nautilus
There was a poll about this recently. If you search you will find a link.
Title: check out the date on this puppy
Post by: weirdami on October 22, 2007, 06:30:11 AM: in the image gallery (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/photo.php?lid=1334&cid=43)
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: nyteschayde on October 22, 2007, 06:30:55 AM: Me ME ME!!! Jeez... finally, I feel like asking if I am dreaming too. Mental note to not get my hopes up... gotta prevent my fingers from tripple hitting the submit button on the order form (when one becomes available)

:D
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: amigaxyz on October 22, 2007, 07:32:28 AM: Tempting... Makes me want to by a BPPC for my A1200!..
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: derringer3 on October 22, 2007, 08:14:01 AM: Can't wait to get one...
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: BinoX on October 22, 2007, 09:49:31 AM: Quote
How many Classic PPC users are out there?

Me!! I have 2 PPC cards!
Ready to rock and roll! It's like xmas is coming early!!! Finally all my preparation for this day has proven to not be in vain!!!
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: keropi on October 22, 2007, 09:54:58 AM: I wonder how good it will be though. it appears that there is no support for G-Rex busboards at all. A4000 mediator users might get a usable system, but a1200 ones will get crap as far as I can tell... because there is also no support for the trick that mediator1200 does so it uses the vga vram as DMA buffer (or something like that...)
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: xeron on October 22, 2007, 10:53:10 AM: @keropi

Both Mediator 1200 & 4000 use the DMA trick. It does mean that if you use the native OS4 mediator support, it limits the cards you can use (10mbit realtek card instead of 100mbit for example. Not that the 100mbit card ever went much faster than 10mbit in a mediator anyway).

However, if you want, you can remove the native drivers for the cards in your mediator and still use Elboxes 68k drivers. They even work with the native Picasso96.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: ACK_h8r on October 22, 2007, 11:09:15 AM: WOW, what a wonderful achievement. Getting extra users is just incredible. Those 6 years have really paid off and your in the money.

You guys rock.

PS: Rouge, Hows that private jet that you and your bro purchased?
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: itix on October 22, 2007, 12:53:26 PM: "Classic Amiga"? Please cant we stop using this lame "Classic Amiga" term coined by Amiga Inc?

Amiga sounds much better.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: weirdami on October 22, 2007, 12:56:06 PM: @itix

How about Original Formula?
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Christian Johansson on October 22, 2007, 02:41:59 PM: @itix: i agree!
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: XDelusion on October 22, 2007, 03:36:40 PM: Now we just need to find a way to strap an old PPC board on a Minimig. ;)
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: amigakid on October 22, 2007, 04:14:41 PM: sweet I love it finally !!!!
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Argo on October 22, 2007, 04:44:40 PM: Since the original Amiga 68K CPU is disabled by OS 4.0, could a PPC CPU be put on the Minimig. Yeah, I know too easy to simply work. We can dream...
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Fixer on October 22, 2007, 10:27:18 PM: My only real concern is having to buy one of these cards of eBay just to run OS4.

I've heard of them dying, failing, overheating etc.

It's not like Blizzard and Cyberstorm are new/guaranteed hardware.

It just feels a bit risky, having never owned one before.

How old are these PPC things again?
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Wilse on October 22, 2007, 10:45:49 PM: Excellent news! :pint:
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: ACK_h8r on October 22, 2007, 11:31:19 PM: No one has even bothered to wait for a official announcement before getting excited. Amiga Inc are not going to let this happen, that is why hyperion have used a lap dog/mug/fall guy (etc) to spread the news instead of them direct.

Makes you wonder if their real intentions are out to scam amiga inc.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: weirdami on October 23, 2007, 02:32:22 AM: I waited.

So there.

:rtfm:
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: guru-666 on October 23, 2007, 05:13:36 AM: WOW
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: odin on October 23, 2007, 08:21:08 AM: It ain't released until the punters have the CD in their hands.
Title: classic comeback opening taken without remorse
Post by: weirdami on October 23, 2007, 09:59:35 AM: Quote
It ain't released until the punters have the CD in their hands.

That's what she said.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: xeron on October 23, 2007, 01:53:47 PM: I can understand the skepticism, but be aware that we (the betatesting team) are in the process of thoroughly testing the installation CD right now, and have been for a while, so they do seem to be preparing for a release, not just making announcements.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Vlabguy1 on October 23, 2007, 05:15:47 PM: SWEET!!!!

:-)

RIch
ny
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: ACK_h8r on October 23, 2007, 06:29:54 PM: It`s now official on hyperions site, Amiga inc take action NOW and stop them before they cash in on your ip.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Trev on October 23, 2007, 09:05:09 PM: Not really related, but HACK_€tr's comment re: IP reminded me of something funny. I was browsing newgroups the other day and came across two programmers describing the merits of their respective "inventions." Both had patents, but of course, neither was willing to back up their claims with actual code for fear of giving the other an edge. At one point, one programmer noted sending a university research group a patent violation warning. Now, in the scientific community, if two groups happen upon the same results independently, they share in the discovery. As with any endeavor involving human beings, there's a fair amount of competition, scooping, etc., but in general, they allow their work to be used for the greater good. (That doesn't apply, of course, to research performed on behalf of governments or companies under a contract of secrecy of some sort.)

My primary point here is that no self-respecting scientist accepts a claim without empirical evidence to back it up. In industry, however, not only is empirical evidence hard to come by, it's often protected by non-disclosure agreements, trade secrets laws, and genetically enhanced ninja monkeys. Regardless, we as consumers are expected to accept claims at face value and often have no recourse if the claims turn out to be false.

And to keep this on topic, only time will tell whose monkeys have the stronger kung fu.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: arkanoid on October 23, 2007, 10:39:42 PM: i wouldnt get too excited. unless you all enjoy being brought back down to earth with a bump. or havent we all learnt our leasons from past release date "announcements"?

don't say i didnt tell you so, come the 30th next month :-P
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: AmigaMance on October 23, 2007, 11:55:33 PM: @arcanoid
Come on, i think it's obvious that this time is for real.. The only possible catch that i can foreseen could be an outrageous price.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: stopthegop on October 24, 2007, 05:33:27 AM: As the owner of two PPC Amigas, I have to say.. this is wonderful news! :hat: :juggler: :hat: :knuddel:
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Crumb on October 24, 2007, 12:38:49 PM: Thank you OS4 Team! :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: number6 on October 24, 2007, 02:23:24 PM: @AmigaMance

Quote
Come on, i think it's obvious that this time is for real.. The only possible catch that i can foreseen could be an outrageous price.

The price was already posted:
http://www.acube-systems.com/eng/news.php?id=16

Also, if you would like to offer some feedback, there is a thread here (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=24509&forum=27&viewmode=flat&order=0)

#6
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: adonay on October 24, 2007, 09:17:29 PM: i only have 1 bppc card left but if this gets out i will order 2 versions just for support .. :-D
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: Starrfoxx on October 25, 2007, 10:31:44 PM: Is it possible down the road that OS4 will be compatible with WinUAE? That would be sweet.
Title: Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Post by: amiga_3k on October 27, 2007, 10:01:26 AM: Does one needs some kind of proof if he/she owns an Amiga with PPC from DCE/PhaseV? In other words, is it for sale (or will it become for sale) for everyone? If yes, then its about time to hack PPC support / emulation into WinUAE. Should be possible with all those multi-core AMDs in the shops.