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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: ffastback on October 05, 2007, 06:47:23 PM
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"These answers came to us from an very unlikely source, i would like to thank our colleagues over at AmigaWorld.net and Amigans.net for forwarding these misplaced answers to us here at AmigaWeb.net."
Read them at:
http://amigaweb.net/index.php?function=view_news&id=773
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A few bits stood out to me:
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8) Why couldn't you licence Individual Computers Amiga 500 clone Projetc A? ( It seems like a product that could generate a lot of revenue. Just look at the success of the C64 DTV)
I am not familiar with this company or project. I would need to speak with someone there; my e-mail is bill@amiga.com
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It is official, Bill has been under a rock. I heard of this and I was purposefully avoiding the Amiga for years.
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40) How do feel about making Amiga OS 1.0 to 3.1 Open Source?
Not going to happen.
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Foolish and short sighted. Oh wait, who are we talking about again? nevermind.
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"Please see the answer to question 4" is what most stood out for me, maybe that's because it was 20 out of 40 answers...
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How depressing to read this after his letter yesterday.
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37) Is fleecy moss still actively involved with amiga inc?
Yes he is.
Well, that explains a lot regarding the hardware situation and ACK's involvement. Bring on the sheep! :roflmao:
I'm actually a bit excited about seeing what's behind all this OS5 talk until Xmas - but I'm not holding my breath. Better than OSX, hmm...
:popcorn:
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"34) Is everything on hold until the trial is over?
Those projects that are Amiga OS 4 related are slowed down, but not on hold. We have moved the funds that were budgeted for OS 4 to OS 5 and two new products to accelerate their development. "
AKA - Don't bother with OS4 development folks, we will have OS5 before anything is resolved in the court case! FFS Amiga just buy Hyperion! IT IS A NO BRAINER!!!
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:horse:
Dammy
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cv643d:
Just dont expect anything from AI and you'll never be disappointed. I used to wait w/baited breath for every bit of Amiga info ever since Wayne used to send the Amiga.org e-newsletters. I read everything I could, kept up w/all the news and was a supporter of any Amiga company. I even thought MorphOS sucked because of my tunnel vision for anything Amiga.
After a few years of bs and lies my trust wavered and I ended up losing interest. That was the best thing because now I dont care if AI goes under (I prefer it). I like reading this stuff because its like watching lions kill an animal..as gruesome as it is, you're compelled to watch + the comedy of reading the replies from Amiga users.
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Any informations on whether OS5 will run on my GVP 1208??? (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=1184)
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To hell with current Amiga...
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What are these "products" he keeps talking about? A,Inc is a total farce.
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Think happy thoughts!! Think happy thoughts!!! :pissed:
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@-D-
Whatever this OS5 turns out as, I don't think it'll run on any classic hardware.
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Whatever this OS5 turns out as, I don't think it'll run on any classic hardware.
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Oh, didn't you know? Hardware was irrelevent. The next Amiga will run without being encumbered by such novelties as a "hardware" or even a "computer." Yes, it will exist anywhere....
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31) Do you have any contact with the current Commodore company?
NDA’s do not allow me to answer that question.
Sounds like they were looking into something to me.
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I was talking to Acube about business but NDA's prevent me from disclosing what it entailed.
you see, now you think I had a deal w/ACube..but in reality I made it up. lol
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there is a very old saying that goes something like this "as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike" and i think that fit bill mcewen very good! :lol:
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I would hope not. The classic hardware is far too much slower then todays hardware. An IPod has for more processing power then any classic Amiga.
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Yawn.
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Our products will be part of other larger company solutions. Amiga is the glue.
And we're gonna sell it in ziploc baggies on the street corner...
:crazy:
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What is the unlikely source?
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BillMc said:
40) How do feel about making Amiga OS 1.0 to 3.1 Open Source?
Not going to happen.
downix said:
Foolish and short sighted. Oh wait, who are we talking about again? nevermind.
I'm not party to open sourcing AmigaOS or not, but I am curious as to the opinions of the benefits of doing so.
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8) Why couldn't you licence Individual Computers Amiga 500 clone Projetc A? ( It seems like a product that could generate a lot of revenue. Just look at the success of the C64 DTV)
I am not familiar with this company or project. I would need to speak with someone there; my e-mail is bill@amiga.com
At the Sacramento Amiga show last year, Jens told me that he had a meeting scheduled with McEwen, and that McEwen stood him up. I know if I have to take the word of one or the other, Jens is the one I would believe. Particularly given the absurdity of McEwen claiming that he has never heard of Individual Computers.
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What is the unlikely source?
NDA prevents me from answering that :-P
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You know, I don't want to sound like a prick or anything, but how many of those questions were *WASTED* on stupid OS4 ones? Are you people frakking morons? He's in the middle of a lawsuit and he can't say sh!t about them. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure *THAT* one out.
Here's some questions you *SHOULD* have asked:
Bill, what's it like knowing that the majority of the community can't stand you,'cos you've ripped us off, lied to us about products, didn't give us what we asked for and didn't listen to *ANY* of us, when we had ideas that could have saved your business and the community?
Bill, did you really think that you'd get away with the schell game you played with Amiga, Inc./KMOS/Itec?
Bill, what did you think when pictures appeared of your "New York Office" and the apparent lack of personnel?
Bill, why do you continually imply that you've never met people, who insist that they've spoken to you and that as a business man, they find you incorrigible?
Bill, when are you going to admit that you're not business savy and go back to being a truck driver?
Bill, is it true that your dealings with ACK are based on his proven track record for unreliability and the fact that it coincides with your own projections of OS5 or the fact that he's equally as delusional as you are?
Bill, what were you thinking, when you offered to cough up $10Mil for the Kent Naming rights, when that could have been used for something like advertising, paying back the coupon scams or research and development?
Bill, do you honestly think that anyone in the community, your only viable, capital interest and that's not saying much, believes a word you say or that you have any sort of credibility?
I think that's a good starting point. :roll:
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"It's so simple, even a half-concussed moron could understand it!" - Kryten
1. OS4 on SAM440 would have been released on September 22, 2007.
2. OS5 is 'ahead of schedule', but still not due for release until Q4, 2007.
3. OS4 is a competing product.
4. OS4 needs to be removed from the equation.
5. ???
6. Profit.
jaminJay
"We have just lost cabin pressure." - Narrator
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Here's some questions you *SHOULD* have asked:
Bill, what's it like knowing that the majority of the community can't stand you,'cos you've ripped us off, lied to us about products, didn't give us what we asked for and didn't listen to *ANY* of us, when we had ideas that could have saved your business and the community?
NDA’s do not allow me to answer that question
Bill, did you really think that you'd get away with the schell game you played with Amiga, Inc./KMOS/Itec?
Please see the answer to question 4.
Bill, what did you think when pictures appeared of your "New York Office" and the apparent lack of personnel?
NDA’s do not allow me to answer that question
Bill, why do you continually imply that you've never met people, who insist that they've spoken to you and that as a business man, they find you incorrigible?
NDA’s do not allow me to answer that question
Bill, when are you going to admit that you're not business savy and go back to being a truck driver?
Please see the answer to question 4.
Bill, is it true that your dealings with ACK are based on his proven track record for unreliability and the fact that it coincides with your own projections of OS5 or the fact that he's equally as delusional as you are?
Please see the answer to question 4.
Bill, what were you thinking, when you offered to cough up $10Mil for the Kent Naming rights, when that could have been used for something like advertising, paying back the coupon scams or research and development?
NDA’s do not allow me to answer that question
Bill, do you honestly think that anyone in the community, your only viable, capital interest and that's not saying much, believes a word you say or that you have any sort of credibility?
Please see the answer to question 4.
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The whole thing is a joke. I can understand the fact that he cannot go into details about OS4 because of the legal matters. But everything about OS5, and the "let's wait and see" attitude just doesn't cut it with me. Many users are asking for "proof". Let's see screenshots, pictures, or something. Instead, all we get are vague answers and "you'll see when it comes out".
Sorry, but I have no interest in that kind of business. I'll stick with my classic Amiga and WinUAE until there's something new, real, and worth my money to buy.
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WHY IS EVERY SLIPPERY CEO
OUT THERE NAMED BILL!!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????
thats the real question
MMMmmmmmm kay !!!!!!!!
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Foolish and short sighted. Oh wait, who are we talking about again? nevermind.
Right. Ever since microsoft released windows'95 and windows'98 source codes along with ibm's os/2 warp sources, the world turned out to be better.
not to mention unix which is heck knows how old, but people still have a chance to add some crap to the sources, right?
why do i have a feeling you never worked for a software company...
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oh wait, why do i try to open your eyes. even if they did a bunch of great job you would still be unsatisfied. feels like i am the only person here who finds some reason behind the answers i got.
and yes, i may be daydreaming about os5, but i believe it still comes up - even if not in q4, still within a year.
so, guys, one question:
what good have YOU done for the amiga recently?
oh, wait, i shouldn't have said that either. the ideology of people commenting here is stil far from reason. so i'm going to be the next one to be burnt after Bill. right?
pathetic.
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@Starrfox,
have you ever wondered what NDA actually stands for?
i'll give you a tip. these are not the initials of his parents.
tomek
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Error, have you just (re-) discovered the Amiga and skipped the last 7 years of "Amiga history"?
Why do you trust Bill Mc. Ewen after all what went wrong in the last years?
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Bill, is it true that your dealings with ACK are based on his proven track record for unreliability and the fact that it coincides with your own projections of OS5 or the fact that he's equally as delusional as you are?
Please see the answer to question 4.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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what good have YOU done for the amiga recently?
Sign me up for 2 vapourware motherboards, 1 copy of vapourware AA2 and 0 copies of OS5v (v stands for vapourware..lol)
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Sign me up for 2 vapourware motherboards, 1 copy of vapourware AA2 and 0 copies of OS5v (v stands for vapourware..lol)
And a side of vapour-fries, thank you.
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> Error: "what good have YOU done for the amiga recently?"
Please see the answer to question 4.
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@Error
what good have YOU done for the amiga recently?
How is that relevant in any way? Is this some sort of pissing contest now? Only True Developers may comment?
pathetic.
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> Error: "what good have YOU done for the amiga recently?"
Please see the answer to question 4.
@Kaminari
Haha! Well said! :lol:
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The whole thing is a joke. I can understand the fact that he cannot go into details about OS4 because of the legal matters. But everything about OS5, and the "let's wait and see" attitude just doesn't cut it with me. Many users are asking for "proof". Let's see screenshots, pictures, or something. Instead, all we get are vague answers and "you'll see when it comes out".
Sorry, but I have no interest in that kind of business. I'll stick with my classic Amiga and WinUAE until there's something new, real, and worth my money to buy.
NDA's are not permitting him to answer those questions
BTW, your reply was one of the *BEST* laughs I've had in a long time. :lol:
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what good have YOU done for the amiga recently?
oh, wait, i shouldn't have said that either. the ideology of people commenting here is stil far from reason. so i'm going to be the next one to be burnt after Bill. right?
pathetic.
Let's see.....
I bought OS 3.5 *AND* 3.9. I bought a new A1200, when I didn't need one. I bought Amithlon. I bought one of those stupid coupons, when I knew I didn't want, nor could afford one of their buggy, over-priced Teron Boards. I tried to rebuild the situation, personally, between the two warring faction, blue and red. I tried to establish a viable market plan for Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion that would have started out slow, but would have seen a capital vestment.
What have YOU done for the Amiga? :roll:
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Personally, *I* think I have done enough and gotten nothing in return.
And I'm not the only one who thinks like that. :evil:
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Well, they got their 15 seconds of fame, again...
http://slashdot.org/articles/07/10/06/1015235.shtml
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If he really gave a damn he could at least organize a DevCon, AFAIK the last one was in 1993.
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I like the answer to Question 41.......
"Bill are you or ever have you ever been a member of the Magic Circle ?,
Yes, how did you know !?
"Your Good at making Amiga's appear, then click your fingers, and puff they vanish!"
And Question 42.......
"Bill what's the meaning of life.? OS42 perhaps ? oh and I heard from the almighty that you know they answer."
Same answer as the answer for number 4.
And Question 43
"Bill Can an Amiga have Babies ?"
Depends if its on the Pill.....
And Question 45
What happened to Question 44 ?
Same answer as the answer for number 4.
Finally Question 46
"Bill is it true you spend time and love answering questions of the Amiga Community ?"
Yes I waste no time in responding to questions. Its a Love thing you know.
;)
Shaz
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Just my 5 cents...
THIS MAN is the biggest LIAR EVER SEEN on this world!!! Bill McEwen and his lies are with nothing on this world comparable. Sometimes I think he was just born to destroy and damage the amiga community with his lies.
In this liar is no little honor left, he should just go away, I can make this job thousand times better!!!
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I don't see any point commenting on this at all if nobody knows where it came from. I can type up a set of questions and answers and post them as "from an unlikely source", too. What are we, moobunny?
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I don't see any point commenting on this at all if nobody knows where it came from. I can type up a set of questions and answers and post them as "from an unlikely source", too. What are we, moobunny?
The unlikely source was I forwarding the email to AmigaWeb, after making sure, to the best of my abilities, it was -their- Q&A.
I am as conviced as I can be without meeting Bill in person, that the answers were sent from Bill's email.
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Just TWO MORE WEEKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And then? In 2 weeks a new story from the biggest liar company on this world?
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Nice tagline:
"Please see the answer to question 4"
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I don't see any point commenting on this at all if nobody knows where it came from. I can type up a set of questions and answers and post them as "from an unlikely source", too.
Bill certainly has opportunity to decry the answers as phoney. And if they are phoney and he doesn't even know about them by now, or doesn't care, then what difference does it really make?
What are we, moobunny?
Hey now! :-)
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you see, now you think I had a deal w/ACube..but in reality I made it up. lol
In this case it looks real though. Apparently Bill is trying to convince Commodore that he (Amiga, Inc. - Delaware) has the "intellectual property" to release an emulator and/or some hardware using the Amiga brand and operating system. Of course with Hyperion working to convince the judges that the Delaware company has nothing in its hands, Commodore would be stupid to work with them and then risk to be sued by a competitor in the middle of holiday sales.
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I doubt Commodore could stop them, Commodore aka Tulip AFAIK only owns the name "Commodore" and nothing else.
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@ a-pex
THIS MAN is the biggest LIAR EVER SEEN on this world!!!
Or perhaps not. I'm not saying I believe a word that he's said, but still, biggest liar in the world? I think others may still have a decent claim to that title.
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I wish this clown and his circus act would just sell Amiga to Bill Buck. People may not like BB's persona, but NO ONE can deny that he delivers on his promises. You guys would have had AOS4 AND hardware loooong ago if BB was running the show. In fact, rather than grasping at straws for a patheticly underpowered system to run AOS4 on, (such as this silly SAM board) BB would probably have had it running on on a Peg2 by now. Amiga made a wrong turn when it drove down the McEwen highway :/
however, I already own a Peg2 running MOS...so i couldnt care less about the phantom-AOS4 dream tbh :)
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People may not like BB's persona.....
no, it's NOT his "personality" that is the problem, it's his propensity to send out rubber checks.....and to insult employees...
I would rather just leave out all the "bills" when discussing Amiga.
We don't need anyone. Just depend on yourself.