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Vulcan Software Limited and Amiga, Inc. announce new relationship bringing Classic Amiga games to PC’s and other devices.. Amiga new Classic Game Player to be launched on May 23, 2007 Vulcan Software Limited Titles will be first to ship. Titles will be available for a limited time for $ 4.99 per title with the special 50% discount.
Issaquah, Wash USA – Gloucestershire, UK May 23, 2007 – Vulcan Software Limited and Amiga, Inc. are pleased to announce the launch and availability of Vulcan Software titles for Windows PC’s via the new Amiga Classic Game Player.
“The new Amiga offering makes playing these very fun titles simple. Just click and you are playing. It is great to be working with Amiga again, and our relationship will be growing into other areas as well”, said Paul Carrington President of Vulcan Software Limited
With the new Amiga Classic Game Player a customer need only to select the game they want to play, download it to their computer, install, click and play. It is seamless fun, and reminds everyone of why we started using computers for gaming to begin with.
Amiga will continue to offer new titles and other Amiga Classic offerings, from the 80’s through the 90’s, and will offer these great titles initially for the PC and then will begin to expand other devices.
“It has been great working with Paul at Vulcan and this is the first product that is available from our new relationship.” Said Bill McEwen, Amiga, Inc. “There are several other areas that Amiga and Vulcan are in discussions about, and we look forward on delivering new products and experiences for our customers very soon.”
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About Amiga
Amiga, Inc. builds on their legacy leading the way in multimedia development by providing developers with hardware-independent technologies for writing and porting applications to new platforms and interactive devices. For almost two decades its award-winning software has been a mainstay for motion picture studios, multimedia creators, and digital entertainment enthusiasts around the world. For more information visit www.amiga.com.
About Vulcan Software Limited
Vulcan Software Limited founded in 1994 is an independent software development company, based in the United Kingdom. After creating 15 award winning games ‘over five years’ for the Amiga computer, Vulcan has been busy creating advanced 3D game development tools ‘Mother3D’ along with two flagship 3D titles ‘Hybrid’ and ‘Valhalla & The Curse Of Infinity’. For more information visit www.vulcan.co.uk
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Nice, Vulcan Life :)
the last 20 mails i dont become any answere from Vulcan :)
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the new Amiga Classic Game Player
Or WinUAE with a new name? :-)
(Assuming it's WinUAE based) I hope they're contributing their changes back, as required by GPL.
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I remember Valhalla, played it once from a CU cover disk iirc. It was a pretty nice game...
Anyway, OT: what's this 'Classic Game Player' anyway? Are the games ported to x86 or is it some sort of 68k emulator, or some java engine or amiga anywhere thingie?
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I dont know but I would imagine it will be just a hidden winuae type affair.
Didnt Vulcan release all of these on the PC as well in a pack or something ???
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Will that mean that OS4 will start talking now? :nervous:
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(Assuming it's WinUAE based) I hope they're contributing their changes back, as required by GPL.
Maybe they bought Fellow? Just thinking out loud.. What ever happened to Fellow :-?
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Vulcan's homepage last update was in 2004 ?! ... I think Amiga.Inc is only so "active" at the moment to win at the court. After that they will be soooo dead again..
As with the new Amiga's ! If they really only have 1.6 mill $, and ACK aint rich to, they can't make the new computers... Just won't happen ... :S
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the only naive-user friendly way I can think of is the following:
you download Amiga Classic Game Player for free, from vulcan's server. This software is nothing more than a polished front-end + configuration engine for winUAE that it contains (+ roms of course).
you download the amiga-game-file (*.agf) from their server. This file contains the whole array of .adf files plus information about the configuration of winUAE. the Amiga Classic Game Player configures winUAE according to the info of the .agf file e.g. 68020 + AGA + 2 megabytes ram + second floppy drive + mount each of the two .adf's on the drives. Amiga Classic Game Player starts the emulation and you play the game. Nothing magnificent or groundbraking but a pretty nice way of enabling PPL to play Amiga games even if they've never owned an Amiga.
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Well, atleast the price is sensible...
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is this a joke?.... is people that dumb that they cant get winuae to work or cant buy amigaforver pack??... jesus christ what will be next???... auto on/off power button on pc, becouse people dont know how to press an powerbutton off and on....
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@Van_M:
With today's storage capacities, it would make more sense just to bundle the ROMs, OS components and disk images (or heck, just a memory snapshot of the loaded game) per game in one blob. With appropriate modification's to UAE's loader if that's what they'll use.
This way they'd avoid giving out the ROM images 'free,' something they seem so concerned about, and maintain licensing and associated payments (source of revenue) as a requirement for any other developers who care to jump onboard.
Of course, this would also make some sense from a business perspective, so who knows if they'd actually do it that way.
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At least the old fuc*ing ridiculous "About Amiga" has been changed to something from this world.
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I'm sorry, but HAHAHAHA
yeah...
:crazy:
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I am no "Fan-Boy" of Amiga Inc. or Bill McEwen, but I also don't think all this negative feedback here on Amiga.org is good for any of us.
Don't get me wrong, you all are entitled to your opinions and they are all valid, but I prefer to just sit back and think that any new developments from Amiga Inc. are better than what they have done over the past several years (which is basically nothing).
I just think that trying to pick apart every news item that comes out about Amiga Inc. and look at it in a negative way is counter productive to what we all (or most of us) would like to see happen, and that is to have new computers running AmigaOS 4.x or the mystery OS 5.x.
I guess if I don't have anything good to say, I prefer not to say anything at all.
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I think the problem is one of
promise/wait/promise/wait/promise/wait
and that would be the nicest of explanations, theres been so many years of nonsense and some outright badness that some folk aren't able to put a positive spin on things because they really have seen it all before and for some I suspect there's nothing that ainc can do to redeem itself and that's just the way it is
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already done in germany:
magnusoft (http://magnussoft.de/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/137?osCsid=d8e6340c73b68a5088e491fe6e638ec5)
Good luck mc ewen
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@redrumloa:
ainc bought fellow??? I think we're living in an other world. Maybe you want to write:
Ainc lawsuited fellow... :lol:
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Maybe they run on OS5 :lol:
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Well, kind of interesting. Vulcan produced great software. JetPilot is still one of my favorite games ever.
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Well, i believe that they suck. They should try to port games from other platforms to the Amiga, not the other way around. :madashell:
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You mock, but this move is exactly the sort of thing I've been expecting. Classic Amiga games running on various hardware is just one necessity in order to move away from custom chipsets, AInc have stated previously that OS5 is hardware independent and even the new (presumably OS4) machines have no custom chipset like our beloved classic miggy's. Obvious marketing patterns have been forming for some time now and many are refusing to see them due to Cynisism about AInc. Step back from the years of Amiga related frustration and see what's going on with an open mind.
How would any of us on this forum try to relaunch the Amiga OS? I for one would take a positively insidious approach, hardware independence and making classic software available within the new OS (and indeed, other OS's) makes good sense.
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@AmigaMance
Well, i believe that they suck. They should try to port games from other platforms to the Amiga, not the other way around.
...and run them on what?
I know, let's port Elder Scrolls 3 to the A1200.......sheesh.
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@tripitaka
whatever..
Edit: I, like many other classic Amiga owners, own a PPC board and a gfx card. I could appreciate a port of wing commander 3 or falcon 2 etc, etc. Or even less harware demanding games like civilization 2. (just some rough examples i can think right know)
These are not state of the art games, but at least many of us have the hardware to run them.
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amiga inc does not own the rights to any (real)games... why does vulcan need them?
games can be played with winUAE, so please just go away, vulchures and pests.
vulcan go look and see what heppend to loki, and they had a much larger market.... Let me guess vulcan is another one man shop?
Now if blizzard wanted to port some of there stuff that would be interesting but vulcan (who?)
amiga inc, please provid proof that you own the right to anything "classic" amiga... but I'm sure you can't do that.
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@AmigaMance
There are non-Amiga owners who would appreciate playing Vulcan's games too. Many of them don't like the idea of messing about with emulation via WinUAE and such, so what's your problem with this?
I understand your frutration with the lack of titles available for your nice ppc card and that you'd like to see more ports but that's not going to happen with such a tiny market. The long and short of it is that if your realistic about this the only way your going to get those ports is DIY. The classic Amiga is a retro hobby computer, accept it.
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man I wish I could get somebody to pay me to "port" amiga games to the pc... since UAE already works very well the job has alrady been done. this is a great way for amiga inc to rip off the community one more time....
lame is as lame does.
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Big deal, So What!
This will not keep the Amiga Alive, it will only keep it in the past!
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seems that people forgot the most interesting part:
There are several other areas that Amiga and Vulcan are in discussions about, and we look forward on delivering new products and experiences for our customers very soon
Are i the only that see this as a good movement?that is something that A inc should have done before. certainly think that this community has become mad
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yes you many be the only one, most of us realize this is just more hot air.
I'm sure they will both deliver "experiences"
LOL
remember the story about king midas.. well there is a similar story about a-inc. but everything they touch turns into dung rather than gold. :-P
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@c64_d0c:
is this a joke?.... is people that dumb that they cant get winuae to work or cant buy amigaforver pack??... jesus christ what will be next???... auto on/off power button on pc, becouse people dont know how to press an powerbutton off and on...
You're paying... the games. Obviously they aren't abandonware. If you don't like, you wont have to buy them, it's that simple. You do not pay what has no price.
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@AmigaMance:
It would be hard making a business out of each PPC Amiga like system, let alone classic only.
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@ Tripitaka:
"AInc have stated previously that OS5 is hardware independent"
Hahaha, man, you're a real comedian.
When will OS5 be launched? Real soon now?
Two more weeks?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy:
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I think its interesting that AInc are suddenly very interested in the Classic & OS 4 market.
Its almost like they just realized that they should start trying to cash in on the name they've been using all along.
If they had just supported the Classic/nostalgic market, OS 4, and Amiga anywhere with the same energy from the beginning. then they may have actually had some success by now.
I'm afraid that it might be to little to late now.....
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@ shillard
I am only stating AInc's proposed plans.
If, you have decided in your obviously infinite wisdom that nothing AI say that they will do will actualy happen then why bother commenting on this thread? It is, after all a plan from AInc that the threads about in the first place, I'm suprised you bothered to read it.
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@Tripitaka
what inc products did you buy? The have anounced many and delivered none. So the folks who don't belive amiga inc have something to base that on. the folks that DO belive inc will deliver don't have any examples of success. Infact they are ignoring the evidence that showes they won't deliver.
"I want to belive"
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I don't get it. Some of the things posted in this thread seems so beyond me I can't believe it.
1. Of course Amiga, as a company, want's to be profitable. No matter how much people think they have failed to deliver I think it is beyond ridicilous to think that they are just fooling around to make the trial go their way or to make false promises to the community. No sane person would enter an agreement with City of Kent, where they have to provide money, just to fool around doing nothing. Of course Amiga Inc. are doing what they can to secure their funds.
2. Nintendo delivered their VirtualConsole. The hardcore emulator people screamed 'screw Nintendo, why buy old games when I can emulate them on my computer'. Well, sorry, but Nintendo delivered big time with their Virtual Console on the Wii. Games are selling very well, and if anything I think the market should be happy that the companies at last are trying to make old classic games available again with fair prices in mind. Virtual Console is nothing but a success and the hardcore emulator people were wrong.
3. Magnussoft have of course not gained the rights to include each of the games on the Amiga Classix series. Some of the games included are even from defunct companies. I might be WAY OFF here, and since that is a possibility I should state right away that I haven't actually dug up some proof of Magnussoft delivering games which the company hasn't got a license for... but looking at the prices of the compilations and looking at the games included, there is no logic whatsoever behind the companies, having produced the games, entering any kind of agreement to allow these kind of products.
4. In the end people might think whatever they want about 'abandonware' (which isn't a legal term, just a term made up term to justify illegal spreading of old games) and that one shouldn't have to pay for old software. But, in the end, the companies owns the rights and if they want to sell their old games for quite low prices, I for one, think that it should be appreciated that they at least are making an effort of making their games commercially available again. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy their products, but at least they are not sitting on their copyrights doing nothing with them (and thus not forcing people to come up with such terms as 'adandonware').
It's not something major, this. It's rather a small move which shouldn't upset anyone. Not taking your feelings towards Amiga Inc. into consideration, what is there to dislike about this? Really?
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@Legerdemain
I'm glad to see someone here is still sane.
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Seems like AI don't know who they are - even on their own website.
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"Amiga, Inc., founded in 1983, is a computer software company"
The first custom Amiga chips were fabricated in 1983 but statements like these are ridiculous.
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Well I bought, downloaded, and played all 6 games for a short bit on my Windows laptop. The whole purchasing process went very well and then the playing of them went over without a hitch. I would like to see more of this from Amiga Inc., as well as the new promised hardware/software.
I have to give a thumbs up to Amiga Inc. and Vulcan on this.
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Interesting to see that Mindwalker is there too.
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freeware emulator(that all can get) + free abadonwares(that all can get) = big bucks... the vultures at work thats for sure...
grab the emulator here...
http://www.winuae.net/
grab the games here...
Links deleted by Admin: Piracy
and there are many more sites out there to be found with games, if you bother to do a google...
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Methinks it's against the rules here at amiga.org to post those last two URLs if they indeed have these games to download.
Fact is, if someone is willing to still sell a ware, then it's not abandonware!
This is the problem with people who want to declare other peoples work abandoned. You reduce the viability of the business should they decide they want to sell it again or sell it with the assistance of someone else.
Amiga and Vulcan are giving people an ability to legitimately acquire these games. It's good to have legitimate means to acquire them because it presents the possibility that someone on the other end might keep track and see a viable business in that product and decide it's worth it to make future products. It also means that, unlike "those sites", there is a possibility that the people who created the content might benefit from people buying them instead of taking them.
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freeware emulator(that all can get) + free abadonwares(that all can get) = big bucks... the vultures at work thats for sure...
grab the emulator here...
http://www.winuae.net/
grab the games here...
and there are many more sites out there to be found with games, if you bother to do a google...
And what about the roms? are copyrighted material.Obviously that is a click and run for people that not want or not know how to setup the kicks, the ram, the type of amiga... of the emulator.good idea as all material is copyrighted and with this you get all in the legal way
All companies do that, even TAITO, CAPCOM, SEGA, NINTENDO and others sell a bunch of classics arcade games for various consoles and they are no more than MAME with the roms of the arcade machines that are copyrigh of their respective owners
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Just purhased Tiny Troops from Amiga.com. Installation was quick and painless, no requirement to mess with any configuration settings, simply click the icon and go! Hope this is just the beginning of many more titles to come.
So in all I'm pleased with my £2.50 purchase, Tiny Troops is a great game, maybe i'll complete it this time around :-)
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grab the emulator here...
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grab the games here...
And grab Screenshot for your crap shop here...
http://hol.abime.net/2485 to use it here
https://www.amiga.com/shop/index.php?cat_id=45 (Mindwalker) :lol:
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WOW!!!... amiga inc cant make their own screen grab now either... i just guess thats says it all!
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WOW is right, I can't think of a better way to rip people off.
People that are buying this are not to bright.
I bet there are lots of folks that don;t even realize that amiga or vulcan don;t own these games....
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@guru-666
Vulcan doesn't own them? If not, who does?
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According to HOL it was Developed by Synapse, maybe Vulcan/AMIGA Inc.(ompetent) bought the rights - or they are selling erm "Abandonware"!?
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As vulcan have been a going concern all the time and have even ported the games to pc and have i believe offered the games for download at some point on their site for the Amiga, how the f00k can they be abadonware. Oh and BTW there is no such thing legally , Vulcan still own the right to the games you bunch of idiots
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You don't realise that we are talking about "Mindwalker" in the AMIGA shop? Do you?
how the f00k can they be abadonware. Oh and BTW there is no such thing legally
Ok sorry i did not want to say that AInc may be selling illegal/pirate copies of old games over the internet for money, so i used the word "Abandonware". But maybe they just have an Agreement with the copyright holder.
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vulture software and mr bill "scammer" mcewen's amiga inc are selling abadonwarez, there is no doubt about that. they even grab screen shots from other sites for godsake!... all they uses is their romz... i bet if you even take a close look at the adf you will see the games are cracked... if all this is legal there should be included a readme file. that are at least 20 pages with info about who owns what, who leased what rigths etc etc etc...
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Ok your on about mindwalker, my bad I am in a really bad mood today and just lashed out.
My apologies.
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vulture software and mr bill "scammer" mcewen's amiga inc are selling abadonwarez, there is no doubt about that. they even grab screen shots from other sites for godsake!... all they uses is their romz... i bet if you even take a close look at the adf you will see the games are cracked...
Is this what this thread needs? At least if your critizism had been constructive, but you are just going on and on and on without even trying to keep up with reality. Cracked? Well, prove it, then! Even so, if the games would be cracked, the crack in the first place were illegal. It's not like Vulcan would be stealing the 'crackers' hard work earning money on it (but that is a completely different discussion).
They can't be selling abandonware, since there is no such thing as 'abandonware', legally speaking. Not minding MindWalker (don't know what's the deal with that game) but it is perfectly possible that Vulcan still owns the rights to distribute the games they haven't developed themselves. As for the games they have developed themselves, of course they have the right to sell them (which I highly doubt Magnussoft has, considering one can find many many games on the Amiga Classix series, many even from defunct companies... and how on earth would he get a license to stuff that many games on the collections and charging a bargain for it? No sane company in the world would allow that kind of exploit).
What is your point (and why on earth is this kind of ranting tolerated at all - moderators)?
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Look, I'm very bright and own some of these games already in my Amiga collection. I purchased them because of the promise they hold. I was able to show my wife some of these games without having to boot up one of my Amigas or fire up my Amiga Forever and load up the ADF. She sat next to me and I double-clicked on the icon and it worked quickly and correctly the first time.
This is, IMHO, nothing but a positive for letting people not "into" the Amiga or people who may be coming back to the Amiga after a long time away and don't know how or want to know how to setup emulation or purchase a classic Amiga, if they don't have one God forbid :-P , to play some of classic games.
I hope the best for Amiga Inc. on this and if they offer more at this great pricing I'll buy some more. Just try buying a copy of a classic Amiga game off Ebay for 5$ US not including shipping. Good luck on that!
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Could this be why Back2Roots vanished ? I remember some of the mods being pissed about AInc staff threatening them ... I think we should do a new adf site :)
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>but I also don't think all this negative feedback
>here on Amiga.org is good for any of us.
I love bashing AInc.! :) Bill is sitting in his empty rooms and crying...
BillMcEwen could work together with the community the last 5 years! Now starting to support classic and the amiga line again is the only reason because noone want or need anywhere(tm), but classic/amiga users are still out there...
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If BILL really wants to work with the communiy, he still has my adress from the german laywers. ;-)
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Hi, guys.
I know I haven't posted here for years, but I am constantly checking things out here.
I am, as most of us are, very disilusioned with all the things here (I told my friends years ago that I'm to have A1 + OS4 in a few months...).
So it's very undersandable (and smart) to be sceptical, but some of the bashing seems simply for the sake of bashing.
It's like some of us here are seeking vengance.
For what? do you really think that AInc don't want to succeed? Do we have a contract with them that they breeched?
We don't, and they haven't.
it seems to me they are trying their best (albeit it's not much...) to do things.
So let's give them some slack, and bash them on THIS issue AFTER they screw up on THIS issue.
Every partnership Amiga has, with potential funds, is good.
As for the new hardware (a diferent strand), it seems good enough.
And the price is understandable (low production numbers).
And lastly, I appologise for any spelling mistakes. English is not my native tongue.
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>do you really think that AInc don't want to
>succeed?
YES! Because they ignored the community for years and now they came back with the story of an new amiga and selling some old free games for unexpirienced users...
>Every partnership Amiga has, with potential funds,
>is good.
and vulcan is this? last homepage update 2004!
and which partnership ever worked?
>As for the new hardware (a diferent strand), it
>seems good enough.
>And the price is understandable (low production
>numbers).
Seems that you really believe that ACK really has hardware ready from which one we never a picture saw. :-D
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....and that Amiga has OS4 !
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@ a-pex:
>> ...they ignored the community for years...
I don't think so.
They (including Bill) did make a few statments and a (albeit periodic and a bit broken) dialog.
Besides, they really had nothing to say. What could they offer?
If anything, they promised too much.
>> Seems that you really believe that ACK really has hardware ready from which one we never a picture saw.
Well, I AM a fellow Amigan, so you can't expect me to be COMPLETELY realistic... :-)
@ Magic-Merl:
>> ....and that Amiga has OS4 !
:-D :lol:
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Does it mean we'll *finally* get that 68040 update for JetPilot? Nah...
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Well, i believe that they suck. They should try to port games from other platforms to the Amiga, not the other way around.
...and run them on what?
I know, let's port Elder Scrolls 3 to the A1200.......sheesh.
On an AmigaOne, for example? Judging by the system requirements (http://www.elderscrolls.com/games/morrowind_faq.htm), Elder Scrolls 3 should run quite well on both AmigaOne and Pegasos. I'd also like to see more recent games converted.
Varthall
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i payed for the keycodes for valhalla ep 2-12 on saturday and as yet havent recieved the codes from vulcan is the company still in buisiness
can anyone help