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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: System on May 07, 2007, 08:36:05 PM
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Issaquah, Wash USA – Fonthill, ON Canada May 7, 2007 – ACK Software Controls, Inc. and Amiga, Inc. are pleased to announce the specifications for the new Power System.
“While targeting the needs of today, we wanted to challenge ourselves to design for the future as well.”, said Adam Kowalczyk President of ACK Software Controls, Inc.
This new system will be offered at a suggested retail price of $ 1498.00 and be a complete offering excluding monitor in a finished design that will provide customers with everything they need to get started.
Power Design Specifications PowerPC board:
• Based on the P.A. Semi PWRficient PA6T-1682M dual core 64 bit CPUs clocked at 2GHz.
• RoHS compliant ATX form factor.
• Four (4) DDR2 DIMM slots.
• One (1) PCI Express x16 slot for high performance graphics cards.
• One (1) PCI Express x2 slot for high performance I/O cards.
• One (1) PCI Express x1 slot for standard I/O cards.
• One (1) PCI 32 bit slot for legacy cards.
• Six (6) USB 2.0 ports.
• Two (2) Gb Ethernet ports.
• Two (2) UART ports for serial connectivity and debug.
• One 8Mb Flash EEPROM containing U-Boot firmware.
• Four (4) SATA II ports based on the Silicon Image SiI3132 (x2)
“This new design offers the Amiga user a new choice in hardware. Amiga believes that this new system will address the needs of the Amiga user today and into the near future.”, said Bill McEwen of Amiga, Inc.
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About Amiga
Amiga, Inc. is the world’s premier provider of multimedia enabling technologies. For almost two decades its award-winning software has been a mainstay for motion picture studios, multimedia creators, and digital entertainment enthusiasts around the world. Today Amiga builds on this legacy leading the way in multimedia development by providing developers with hardware-independent technologies for writing and porting applications to new platforms and interactive devices. For more information visit www.amiga.com.
About ACK
ACK Software Controls, Inc. specializes in the area of embedded controls design for use in automation systems where low-power consumption and reliability is an absolute must. Concentrating on design for manufacturing with local manufacturing facilities has allowed ACK to quickly and cost-effectively develop solutions for customers with low-volume requirements. By integrating hardware, firmware, and device driver engineering capability in-house, ACK can provide complete turn-key solutions to customers.
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I knew they'd pull through. Go Amiga!
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Now if this materializes than this would be a beast of an Amiga. And that at a price comparable to the first A500 we bought (now, I can have the prices mixed up a bit as that set up came with a Commodore 1084S and a Star NX1000 Rainbow printer).
I'm not a hardware expert but I know what I like about it: No onboard sound (this does mean that the Amiga OS to run on it needs good support for various soundcards), no onboard graphics (hope PCI-E is supported with the Amiga OS) and looks as if finally the old school 'serial' and 'parallel' ports are gone.
What still worries me a bit is that these are Design Specs. Where I work (Dutch biggest light-bulb manufaturer ;-), a design spec is the result of the first brain-storm sessions and should lead to a final product spec. I hope it won't take all too long to get these specs into a ready to buy product. Guess it is again a game of 'wait and see' (while keeping the old school Amigas ticking).
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@ Ack
Nice specs!!! but...
Why no onboard sound ? Sound card goes in the PCI slot leaving you with no legacy PCI slots for example, a wireless card or a TV Tuner...
Also why did you leave out the 40-pin IDE connector that was on the eval board? Would have been nice for legacy DVD drive.
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My house is for sale!
No, but seriously, it is. The timing couldn't be better.
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Yeah, I wonder what sound and graphics card these systems will come with.
Oh, will the keyboard have Amiga keys?
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Now that's a new Amiga! woo!
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Does/Will it run any OS? ;-)
Who is going to make the 64bit OS4?
Who is going to make the SMP OS4?
Who is going to write drivers for PCI Express gfxcards? Or will it be Radeon X300 only?
How is this faster than 4-way Mac?
Are you going to get this HW released to the market, too, rather than just making yet another broken promise?
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*if* this materialises into an actual product with OS4, and *if* its available at the same price in the UK (IE, £750 instead of £1500), then I'll buy one. Oh yes indeedy.
So now i guess i'll just wait and see...
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Now we're talking. That's a very fair price for these specs.
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Funny, I don't see this in the "news" section of amiga.com.
Wayne, it's the 7th May, not the 1st April. Where did this announcement originate?
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“While targeting the needs of today, we wanted to challenge ourselves to design for the future as well.”, said Adam Kowalczyk President of ACK Software Controls, Inc.
:roll:
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F*** it, I think I'll buy em both!
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I don't know why some basic built-in sound wouldn't be included, but I'll point out that most mid-high level sound engineers use external USB sound equipment. I need to look at the entry level specs again. Does that have sound?
Plaz
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@Plaz:
From the entry machine spec:
... Onboard sound provided by a C-Media CMI8738....
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I'll check back in the summer 08 and see if these are ready! LOL, amiga now has a 64 bit OS, fantasic I did not know this!
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I'll check back in the summer 08 and see if these are ready! LOL, amiga now has a 64 bit OS, fantasic I did not know this!
I can just see, well now we have the hardware but no OS! LOL this is be fun for years!
WTB tis board should realy make ubuntu fly!
http://www.ubuntu.com/
try ti with xubuntu!
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Why do i not find this announcement on amiga.com? Or am i blind?
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@guru-666:
Now the most positive scenario is that Hyperion had already ported OS4 over to this hardware before the court-case ;-). Afterall, I once read on the OS4 site of Hyperion that it would be easy to port the OS to other hardware (as long as you brought the bucks and the license).
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$ 1498.00 ???? They are out of their minds!!! How many people can really afford that? We are back in the same hole.
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$ 1498.00 ???? They are out of their minds!!! How many people can really afford that? We are back in the same hole.
Remember that this is a full computer and not just a mobo or a accelerator. I have seen people pay out of their teeth just for a accelerator and this system is actually pretty modern even compared with x86 in my opinion.
I myself though would have a hard time affording this one yet and will probably end up buying the entry level providing that it actually ends up being released and runs OS4.
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*if* this materialises into an actual product with OS4, and *if* its available at the same price in the UK (IE, £750 instead of £1500), then I'll buy one. Oh yes indeedy.
So now i guess i'll just wait and see...
me too - although its more like 800 snots in a direct exchange rate (rough) calculation...
if its for 900 quid (taking VAT into consideration etc) I'm up for it !
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does it come with pancakes? :lol:
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Nevermind, confused it with HP PA-RISC.
Wikipedia educated me.
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Who is going to write drivers for PCI Express gfxcards?
A couple people already have
these (http://www.semiconductorstore.com/pages/asp/item.asp?ItemNumber=8111RDK-R) in their AmigaOnes.
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$ 1498.00 ???? They are out of their minds!!! How many people can really afford that?
I can.
And I'm certainly far better off now than when I paid over US$3000 for my BAREBONESEscom/Quikpak A4000T plus goodies ($500 PicassoIV, $300 DelfinaPlus, etc) to put into it when I was a poor college student. I didn't buy a hard drive or other certain things as I transferred a lot out of my 2000 into the 4000T. For a high-end Amiga, this honestly doesn't sound that bad in comparison to historical high-end Amiga systems. I see it as half price of back then, and that's before thinking about inflation since then.
For people who have purchased new (not used) big-box Amigas in the past, how much did you pay?
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LOL!!! :roflmao:
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Real soon now guys, just two more weeks!!!!!
Seriously - any sap who believes this stuff will actually materialise hasn't been taking their medication.
It only works if you take it EVERY DAY, boys....
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So... if this is a complete design, what kind of keyboards they are going to deliver to Europe?
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@billt
It doesn't answer the question, however.
Anyhow, just grabbed ASUS P5B-E, Intel® Core(TM)2 Duo E6320, 2 x 1GB PC2-6400, passively cooled NVIDIA 7600 GT, 320GB SATA2 HDD, DVD+RW + stuff for around 600 eur. Running at 2.8GHz (those core2 chips overclock like mad :-)) this rig will take care of my dualcore needs for a while...
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Come on you guys, ACK has a proven track record!
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To all the negatives out there: What if they don't deliver? How will this affect your life? Are you not sleeping until you see a new Amiga?
If all this is true however I'd like to have a picture of every A.org member's face that day :-D
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wow if os4 ever get smp and 64x support this computer would surely be powerfull enugh :-o if it ever get a os i buy one
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@Delta
You are probably too young to remember IWin Corp.
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:-D
IWin (http://iwin.a500.de/)
:-D
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(http://koft.net/pix/pmig.jpg)
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Even when Adam is trying hard, ne never can get en par with iWin. Not even "Dr" Ryan Czerwinsky was able to keep up with iWin. And Ryan was really trying hard...
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@koaftder:
Hee hee.
Of course, it's a very nice-performing chip, and PA, unlike certain manufacturers of yore and present, may know better than to price it into the ground whilst seeking applications and adoption.
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Specs..seem great..but..is there anyway you can get the price down a BIT..or atleast offer a cut down version..Also..
is the case just going to be some off the self..deal or custom
case that says and shows everyone that this is an AMIGA!!!
The sooner you can present Visuals..of what these will look like
the better..
Any chance for a FIREWIRE ports..def. key for downloading video..and doing a bit post
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>Does/Will it run any OS?
Linux.
>Who is going to make the 64bit OS4?
Goto 1 :)
>Who is going to make the SMP OS4?
Goto 1 :)
>Who is going to write drivers for PCI Express gfxcards? Or will it be Radeon X300 only?
Goto 1 :)
>How is this faster than 4-way Mac?
Maybe it's not any faster.
>Are you going to get this HW released to the market, too, rather than just making yet another broken promise?
Why would Bill be different now ? :)
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@Koafter
You can't fool me - that's a Troika board! :lol:
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So that other system costs $500 and is going to be 400Mhz or 600 soemething if we are really really lucky, but...
...this beast (which Amiga OS does not even work with yet) is ony $1,500 and is so much faster than the other offering...
...does not make sence.
Anyhow, what will we do with all this power assuming it's for real? Amiga has NO cool apps such as Multiquence, Video Editing, Video Capture, 3D Modelling, NOTHING! We got outdated web browsers and other light weight business and old school software and that's it. Nothing multimedia like in the old days. So I wonder why we really need all this beef?
I'll believe it when I see it.
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@Itix
I'm following the scene since the beginning, I remember seeing a LOT of vapourware announced but I don't just get why many people are still feeling the need to flame every bit of news about the amiga they see.
I left Slashdot because of this, I can't stand those "know-it-all nerds" arguments anymore. If Ainc don't show up with a real product, well its gonna be their problem. There is absolutely no point of announcing a product and not sell it.
They can't lose the (very) little credibility they have left.
Unless they placed a monkey in their offices and he's pushing the buttons since 5 years :P
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Delta said.....
"I WANT TO BELIEVE!!!!!!!"
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YES!! I DO!!
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I am so happy i can't stop crying!!!
"Dream is alive!!!!"
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Unless they placed a monkey in their offices and he's pushing the buttons since 5 years :P
Ermm, funny you should mention that.... :lol:
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Has anyone ever gone through the trouble of compiling a list of all the announcements like this we've seen over the years? Should be a rather hefty tome =).
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Poster: Delta Posted: 2007/5/8 12:43:37
YES!! I DO!!
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Looks like you picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
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Looks like you picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
(http://www.movieactors.com/freezeframes510/airplanetwo133.jpeg)
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit takin' quaaludes!
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"I left Slashdot because of this, I can't stand those "know-it-all nerds" arguments anymore."
You might want to avoid forums altogether.
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I always dreamed about this, hope it does not stay that way, i REALLY would like an Amiga like this :-D
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Dudes, this is vapourware, nothing else. Anyway is this revolutionary? No! Everyone is get this half or third of its price for x86 systems. And it is not materialized yet. Ok if it is see the light one day it will be the fastest amiga, but for a company which have no web page in 2007? I have better tales for you if you want.
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Specs are really nice, but the price aint. Just think of it.. $1500 for system + os4 $100 + soundcard .. totalling to close to $1650 which doesnt even contain VAT yet
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@Hooligan
"This new system will be offered at a suggested retail price of $ 1498.00 and be a complete offering excluding monitor in a finished design that will provide customers with everything they need to get started."
I read that it is complete. So there should be sound + GFX + AOS4 included in that price.
But as usual. Time will tell if the thing materializes. untill then :crazy:
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I agree that the pricing is in the upper scale - but the question is if it is even possible to produce a higher end system for a lower price?
The Amiga market needs to grow to push prices down as usual.
So, why was the NeXT line of computer so expensive again, because of the small market.
Why did Apple switch to Intel cores? Because the production costs are lower and they can earn more money since the brand "Mac" is a high end brand.
Amiga Inc needs to be able to deliver OS4 with the machine. There needs to be some killer apps that makes the OS and HW to shine and gets the attention from media.
Amiga Inc need to market this smart, get their act together and making sure that Linux is not the only OS of choice for the initial machine.
Difficult - yes, but impossible? - That depends on the first production run. If the high end machines are sold quickly for asked price I think it can be done.
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:roflmao:
Dammy
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@hooligan
According to the press release, $1498 is the price for everything excluding monitor.
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Well then it aint that bad at all, considering its not a "mainstream-product"
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I'm following the scene since the beginning, I remember seeing a LOT of vapourware announced but I don't just get why many people are still feeling the need to flame every bit of news about the amiga they see
Flaming? I don't know about that. More like pointing out a sad reality. Not everyone reading Amiga.org has been following this sad story unfold for as long as others.
If Ainc don't show up with a real product, well its gonna be their problem. There is absolutely no point of announcing a product and not sell it.
But of course there is a point, they are involved in a lawsuit. Follow the logic and you will see...
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Has anyone ever gone through the trouble of compiling a list of all the announcements like this we've seen over the years? Should be a rather hefty tome =).
Link (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29050)
:-o
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I sure do hope this is for real because that looks like a very nice system and I look forward to being able to purchase one!
Please Amiga Inc make this happen.
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If TBL would touch such a machine, what would they produce?
jaminJay
"It won't stop global warming..."
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Not willing to spoil the party, but since the first announcements of the ACK designs, I haven't seen any reference whatsoever to AmigaOS 4, let alone a 64-bit SMP build. I'm not drawing any conclusion... except the obvious one that, until it's written black on white, this Power System is not meant to run any form of AmigaOS.
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HW seems very nice, but also expensive. It's probably affordable for western Europe and America, but not for eastern Europe. There should be some low-end machine.
Anyway, does Amiga have software that will take advantage of hardware strong like that?
I have Pegasus machine and in time when I get it it was pretty strong even comparing with PC's. But, without SW it's almost useless...:)
Without PhotoShop (even some older version will do), some rendering program (LightWave), some DTP program that opens Word (Papyrus?)...it doesn't have bright future.
And another important thing - HW has to be upgraded every 1-2 years. Computer technology is developing very fast this days, you know. :-)
Best Wishes!
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This is very exciting news, but I am also concerned that it will be a lot of money easily wasted. Whether I buy this or not will determine on OS4, future upgrades, software, hardware, and video editing. A machine like this may become a home for the Video Toaster again, but is yet to be seen.
The price is very hard, though. I understand why it cost that much, but I built a similiar system for only $500 and that included a very nice, full tower case. It's got onboard graphics and sound, AMD dual core, and plenty of room to expand and upgrade for the next several years. With WinUAE and the PC Toaster, I'll have a system that works for me.
Like others, I'm taking a "wait and see" approach. If this isn't vaporware and it's a revolutionary product, then I'll invest in a NexGen Amiga.
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I have Pegasus machine and in time when I get it it was pretty strong even comparing with PC's. But, without SW it's almost useless...:)
If even Linux and MorphOS offerings dont satisfy your needs, I think you should stay in Windows.
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I dont believe this until I read it on WrongPla.net
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I don't know if this is true or not...................But if it is............First I would like to say to everyone who is complaining.
STOP COMPLAINING! This is an up to date board! it wont Kill Mac or PC but at least the hardware is now available (if its true) and the Drivers will come indeed.
Also why complain about IDE???? it has SATA!
and as for who can afford this? Same people who buy Macs and PC's........that would be me and you as we all would eventually need a PC or Mac thats powerful..........but now we have an AMIGA!
Hope it runs LINUX....specifically Ubuntu.
Then we would be on the safe side till all OS4 drivers are made for all our needs.....or at least "as they are made" we can use both OS's
Hurray!
I hope they make an A1200 style case version of the board.
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Poster: leirbag28 Posted: 2007/5/9 5:55:20
I don't know if this is true or not...................But if it is............First I would like to say to everyone who is complaining.
STOP COMPLAINING! This is an up to date board! it wont Kill Mac or PC but at least the hardware is now available (if its true) and the Drivers will come indeed.
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Ah, so since it obviously isn't true, you won't mind if we carry on complaining?
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@shillard
haha :-D fair enough, but for now they've announced something so we can sit here and go "ooh shiny" until it fails to materialise.
If it *does* get made then not only will my jaw need reattaching but I'd probably buy one (usual proviso about the outcome of the OS4 legal action applies).
@all
the arguments about it being "too powerful" and the low end being "not powerful enough" are bit wierd. You can't have it both ways and almost none of us know enough the hardware in question to comment on how compatibility issues and SMP are going to affect things.
andy
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XDelusion wrote:
Anyhow, what will we do with all this power assuming it's for real? ... I wonder why we really need all this beef?
For playing Amiga games under UAE of course! :-P
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moto
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Only one PCI slot ?! What about if I wanted to do audio production and use my existing TV card ?
That's a big no for a power system.
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Hi all,
I made a lengthy post on AW.net on this same topic, thought you might like to read it. Some of it will apply to this site as well. Let me know what you think of my guess/predictions, lol. Thanks.
Ed
http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3756&start=220#50810
:-D :-o :-D
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I dunno sounds too good to be true...
Guys I hate to burst a bubble...IMHE unless the motherboards are completley tooled and ready for manufacturing we're going to have to wait at least 90 days before manufacturing starts.
Then another few weeks for assembly and delivery to retailers...
That's a conservative estimate.
I base my commnets from IC development & manufacturing projects I've worked on for electronic toy manufactuers. At best I expect "Summer" to slip to early to mid fall...
Given Amiga Incs history of passing up Golden oppurtunites like "Amithlon"... a product that could well have been placed in mass market retailers, I'd file the announcement under BS alert...
But I hope I'm wrong. :roll:
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As Robert De Niro would say, "show me the hardware... and a new version of AmigaOS to go with it!".
Kinda. Yeah, after I added that bit about the OS, it kinda tailed off at the end there. You all get the idea, I'm sure.
I'll get my coat.
Only one PCI slot ?! What about if I wanted to do audio production and use my existing TV card ?
That's a big no for a power system.
PCI-E?
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@ Edpon
something about OS5 being released soon
Erm, you haven't been in the Amiga community for long, have you? If you have, shame on your naivety.
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@Crom00
At best I expect "Summer" to slip to early to mid fall...
Huh? You must have missed the "Power level product ready for Customers Winter 2007" part from the original announcement on Amiga.com.
And "Winter 2007" is still a pretty optimistic estimate for a product that will probably never see the light of the day.
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The P.A. Semi PWRficient PA6T-1682M has only been sampling for about three months now and won't enter volume production until sometime after September.
No way in hell this board will be shipping by winter.
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Edpon,
Are you related to Interesting by any chance?
1- Amiga Inc and Hyperion are in a legal battle over OS4. . . my theory
- - Amiga Truly did want to release a new computer and/or OS, but were bogged down by a legal ( and rightfully so ) obligation to Hyperion. I believe Amiga, in Bill's 20 questions answered to Amiga.Org, mention something about OS5 being released soon.
You mean the OS5 that AInc. claims to have had in development for two years so far, but is just now looking for someone to create the kernel? You know, the OS5 that's being made by elves on loan from Santa's workshop during the off-season?
2- Amiga Inc and ACK join forces to bring you a system for both low end user and power user. . .my theory
- - Yes they probably do have this in production or close to it. But can they release it to us anytime soon with the legal issues going on?
I'm pretty sure Adam really believes he's working on those systems. I'm also pretty sure he believed he was working on the PowerVixxens and the CPU replacement, both of which he also never presented any evidence of actually having even been designed, much less created to any degree.
I'll spare you the stories of people I've met who have water engines, free-energy machines, and tube-based computers (as in PVC tube/pipe) all designed, prototyped and ready for demo - except for one little hitch that needs to be worked out first. It's my firm belief that the ACK prototypes of these new "systems", they'd be made of gingerbread boards connected by strands of string with pictures of various chips pasted onto it - almost ready for demo!
3- The current Amiga community as a whole. . . my prediction
- - We need to get back to what we once were; a tight nit, passionate for the computer and each other, supportive group.
Yes, it's time for people to quit dicking around with dead-end OS4 and get back to the REAL Amiga. Fortunately it looks like things are headed that way BIG TIME.
1 - Why haven't any of you addressed the true problem, ( Unless you know somewhere to find this ), about the soon to be Amigas; WHERE do you get any software for it, and WHAT software is there to use on the machines?
I assume you're talking about OS4 software? Keep in mind that the Amiga community is tiny, and that only a fraction of it is interested in OS4, and of those only a fraction have hardware which can run OS4 now, and of those only a fraction are actual developers, and of those only a fraction are actively working on OS4 software.
What's the motivation? It's a given there's no money to be made, so scratch that off - it's not even a remote consideration. The OS4 community has dwindled down to just a few core fanatics and interested onlookers, so it's not like there's much glory or even interest in your code, but when there is it isn't necessarily a positive thing. Bear in mind some of these remaining OS4 fanatics have even been known to try to get in touch with somebody who wrote an obscure AOS application over ten years ago to try to get them to port it to OS4 - they aren't exactly the kind of people whose attention you want to attract! I know the last thing I want is some Nordic guy calling me up at 3:00 AM Saturday morning in 2020 asking me to port a damn calendar to some OS I haven't thought about in ten years. Anyhow, that leaves personal satisfaction of creating something, which is a fine enough motivation but it isn't often that the final product meshes with what the people want to use.
2- Adam, why don't you tell us all how much you're enjoying this thread? I'm sure you're just laughing your butt off at all the people's guessing and arguing with each other.
No doubt he is, this isn't the first time the OS4 community has been the butt of one of his "jokes".
3- Bill or Adam; Humor us, please, just 1 photo of an actual Motherboard of either of the machines, can you do it for us?
ACK doesn't like pictures, silly!
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I hope it materializes, that said, to those who may be knocking the hardware specs, you may want to head over to the PA Semi site and download the whitepaper on this processor, its a beauty, and it will be able to do some things that even high end computers systems do not do. Among my favorites, and this depends on wheter these features are implemented or not are:
Memory controllers are on the CPU die. This feature is available in the AMD chips today, and has been one of the primary reasons why they have been competative in the CPU market. This means low latency access to memory without a north bridge arbriter to get in the way.
The chip has an onboard TCP/IP offload engine. This means that the IP stack is offloaded onto hardware, further freeing the CPU from processing packets at that level.
A multi channel DMA engine to offload memory transfers between memory and devices.
25W of power as a worst case sceneraio!!! can you say silent PC?
RAID in hardware!
Essentially this processor has built in engines to offload an accelerate IO tasks away from from the core CPU thereby freeing those cycles for other tasks. There is a bit of the good old dedicated co processor concepts from the original Amiga in this very special processor. This includes the ability to do some things in one chip which require many other components to do in the PC world.
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Erm, you haven't been in the Amiga community for long, have you? If you have, shame on your naivety.
@Mikeymike
Yes, I have been in the community for quite some time, since the early 90's. I was restating what Bill said he and his OS "dreamteam" are supposedly building. I don't truly believe that they have something now; just possibly will in the future. But then again, not too long after I bought my - then new - Amiga 4000/040, I was told by reliable Amiga sources that the next Amiga was going to have OS4, AAA architecture and be CD-ROM based, well, we all know where that went. . . SO to answer your comment, NO, I'm not naive and believe that OS5 is coming out. BUT, I do believe that Amiga will try to come up with it's own product to cut Hyperion out of the loop, just not any time this decade.
:rtfm:
:lol:
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Is anyone else surprised at Amiga Inc seriously trying to sell a $1498.00 computer that won't even run Deluxe Paint 3? Compared to my 030 a1200 system, it feels like a bit of a downgrade.
If i buy a PC, i get a system still capable of running DOS programs. If i buy this new "amiga", it won't run most of the applications that made the original amigas so good.
It's not like it's impossible to make a new, powerful and compatible amiga. Computer companies like Digital Equipment Corporation have done similar things in the past. This whole thing just puts the competence of the people at Amiga Inc in doubt. Making a new compatible amiga with a large existing software base even makes a lot of business sense. No idea what these people at Amiga Inc are thinking.
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Regarding backwards compatibility... It's uncalled for that Amiga0S 4 can't run all my LEGACY amiga software.
This is especially so when I can run most all my Amiga 500-to AmigaCD32 games quite well on a modded XBOX armed with 64 megs of ram and a paltry 700 mghtz pentium 4 celeron using a port of a public domain emulator.
We have become so used to third rate software haven't we? Look at Mac OSX... A G4 graphite can run OS9 to OSX Tiger applications. I'm not even going into the whole Universal binary code that can run on both PowerPC and Intel hardware.
With all the time spent on Os4 Development we should have an os running on multiple architechtures, Legacy emulation, and (at last) a native legacy compatible flicker free display.
I think it is unlikely Amiga Inc. are actually intending to release Hardware or Software... It's more likely (given their history) that this is an attempt at deception to secure more funding.
It's sad really, even in it's current state, the Amiga brand could work well with a Jakks Pacific style TV game project...
Any lawyer or licensor worth their weight will abandon all hopes of such projects after examining Amiga Inc's track record.
The non refundable license submission fee is a joke.
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priority:
1) good distribuition in Europe (Mediaworld, or other ....)
2) Branded keyboard and case
3) Mozilla, Open Office
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@Leo42
>Does/Will it run any OS?
Linux.
Well if I want to run Linux I'll use a cheap PC.
What will be the need to get an new Amiga for that ?
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@leirbag28
I hope they make an A1200 style case version of the board.
I hope >not<.
This style case made the Amiga beeing regarded as a toy, constraining size thus compromising the expandability was responsable in a way for its commecial end.
The others reasons were not having a HD as standard and a CDROM at that multimedia time (the Amiga was the first true multimedia computer and the A1200 didn't have a CDROM!).
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more shait from ack and ainc... the dream team!! hahahaha!!... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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more shait from ack and ainc
Yeah, but who's using the toilet paper mate? :devildance:
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this new amiga have support for running OS4?
becouse i dont know what OS uses!!
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:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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there's only so many fruitless announcements people can take - surely. :sleep: pls, don't speak until you're ready to ship the product.
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Announcing is fine, it's what all businesses do to drum up interest for their product/service.
Delivery of said product/service is something that the Amiga community hasn't seen a great deal of for the last... ooh, 13 years?
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Setting the "vaporware" aspects aside, I would say there's a good chance this machine will run some rebadged OS referred to as OS5. If for no other reason than the ownership of OS4 coming into question.
I wouldn't at all be surprised to see this thing running QNX actually, reverting to the original planned rebirth of Amiga. At very least a Quark kernel running an Amigaesque X interface. Perhaps a modified BSD, like OSX.
That would be the simplest solution from a business standpoint. Abandon all backwards compatibility, abandon the old OS. Move forward with new hardware and a new platform.
Will WE be happy? No. But since when has that stopped them? And they're right to ditch the old crap in lieu of a completely new platform, with serious specs. Maybe :-o Make some money??
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Setting the "vaporware" aspects aside, I would say there's a good chance this machine will run some rebadged OS referred to as OS5. If for no other reason than the ownership of OS4 coming into question.
That means you should see OS5 in around, er.... 6 years time! :-D
That would be the simplest solution from a business standpoint. Abandon all backwards compatibility, abandon the old OS. Move forward with new hardware and a new platform.
.....& then it isn't an Amiga! ;-)
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