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Title: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: cv643d on April 18, 2007, 05:11:18 AM
Amiga.com is updated with a new look and news.
Such as "City of Kent Sells Multi-Million Dollar Naming Rights for Proposed Events Center to Global Tech Company Amiga".

City of Kent Sells Naming Rights To Amiga (http://amiga.com/news/?art=25)

www.amiga.com
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: AmigaMance on April 18, 2007, 08:13:54 AM
boring..
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: AmiKit on April 18, 2007, 08:48:03 AM
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Check Out the All New Amiga.com

Why?
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Piru on April 18, 2007, 08:57:43 AM
Well, I guess this means Amiga Inc will finally pay Bolton Peck (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=28648)...
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: dammy on April 18, 2007, 10:05:28 AM
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Well, I guess this means Amiga Inc will finally pay Bolton Peck...


I highly doubt it.  They will probably claim that is the old Amiga Inc and has nothing to do with this shell game Amiga Inc cuz they paid a lot of money to dodge old debts. Of course, that type of statement would be the old Amiga Inc we all have come to love.   :roll:

Dammy
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: PPC on April 18, 2007, 01:10:54 PM
Website still sucks.... so does does the company, poor ppl of kent
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: redrumloa on April 18, 2007, 02:02:38 PM
I woke up in bizzaro world :insane:
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: TheMagicM on April 18, 2007, 02:46:03 PM
wow, this made it as a news item?
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Chain on April 18, 2007, 03:05:10 PM
"Well, but technically its in New Jersey.."   :-D
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: benJamin on April 18, 2007, 04:06:26 PM
"Who would have though hell would really exist? And that it would be in New Jersey?"
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: djbase on April 18, 2007, 05:35:01 PM
Why not just ignore such news from Amiga Inc until they are interest of its community instead of making a news?
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Magic-Merl on April 18, 2007, 06:29:12 PM
I don't tend to post here anymore - but this is worthy of comment.  I am more of a general browser in most cases and am tired of being involved in the community on the whole simply because we are ignored by Amiga Inc.

This site is just an update.  Amiga telling the corporate world that we are still here.  We, the "Amiga community" do not exist as far as the new A.Inc are concerned and IMO this improved site reflects that.

Although a number of the comments here seem to highlight a backlash towards A.Inc I am beginning to think they have decided to go the way of Sega and instead of concentrating on the hardware they would simply prefer the software route.  Deriving innovation from another' intelligence.

Not that this is a bad thing.  I just wish they would give/sell/volunteer the rights to OS4 to another party.

Fact is there is only one news item on there that is not more than 8 months out of date and the rest  of the news (which has had time to mature and develop) is irrelevant because the world has not been set on fire with new Amiga products nor a brand that others can rely upon.

Just my thoughts.
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Ral-Clan on April 18, 2007, 08:20:20 PM
The new Amiga.com site looks very similar to these sites (especially the coloured tabs at the top - identical):

http://www.ruksun.com/html/aboutruksun.htm
http://amigadevindia.com/

 :-?
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: TheMagicM on April 18, 2007, 08:22:36 PM
I would have deleted this news item had I seen it.  Its not worthy.

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 I am more of a general browser in most cases and am tired of being involved in the community on the whole simply because we are ignored by Amiga Inc.


I browse for the most part also.  You're letting AI get to you.  Once you get over that hump and stop caring about what AI does then you're good to go.  Expect nothing when it comes to AI because thats what they'll deliver.  

Use the Amiga for fun, thats why we still exist.  Thats why AO is still here because users still love using the best computer from 1985 (ok, or 1990 when the best Amiga was released  :-P ).


-Alex
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Magic-Merl on April 18, 2007, 10:25:56 PM
No. No. Please don't mis-understand me.  I have moved on. Thats all. I always listen to whats going on in the Amiga world because I enjoyed my Amiga experience. I prefer to be on the outside looking in at the mo!

Amiga Inc. don't "get to me" - at all.  I know if anything is going to come from ANY Amiga company it will be Hyperion or indeed AROS.

But for now - I will watch with interest and the hope that I will one day see OS4 or AROS running on my desktop.

Cheers
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Minuous on April 19, 2007, 01:54:38 AM
There's still nothing on the site that is of interest to any AmigaOS user or developer. It really wouldn't be hard for them to put a few developer documents/tutorials up.

This Kent announcement seems to imply that all future DevCons will be held there. Which is a bad thing considering it's on the other side of the world.

Speaking of DevCons, were the notes from the Italian DevCon held a year or two ago ever released?
Title: really?
Post by: weirdami on April 19, 2007, 09:13:28 AM
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Amiga is a New York based company


wow. i think i remember someone posting pictures of their drop-house. was that in new york? I don't remember. why is it a new york company when everyone that works there is in california... or kent?
Title: Re: really?
Post by: humppa on April 19, 2007, 09:43:26 AM
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wow. i think i remember someone posting pictures of their drop-house. was that in new york?


Cecilia took two photos of their "office" in NY: Link (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?u=244)
Also see the comments and there is some more info here (http://www.ann.lu/comments2.cgi?view=1120526456&category=forum)

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why is it a new york company when everyone that works there is in california... or kent?


Simply because they have registered the company in NY. Nobody has to be working there. There might be also other reasons like taxes and such. AFAIK John Grzymala and Pentti Kouri at least reside in NY. Hakia Inc. and Itec LLC are NY-based. Companies registered on the Bahamas usually also only serve as a drop-house/mailbox.

LINK (http://gutjahr.free.fr/temp/amiga_vs_hare/show_case_doc05-11.pdf)

"On the other hand, the address of 167 Madison Avenue, Suite 301, New York, New York, listed as the Plaintiff’s principal place of business in the Complaint, which is the office of an architect, is merely a mail drop where Plaintiff’s independent accountant, not an employee, maintains his personal office (Hare Declaration, para. 7). If fact, the independent accountant, John Grzymala, only conducts his accounting business there, where he does the bookkeeping for a number of companies, besides the Plaintiff (Hare Declaration, para. 7). No employees of Plaintiff have an office at 167 Madison Avenue (Hare Declaration, para. 7). Further, the Plaintiff has no employees located within New York State (Hare Declaration, para. 7). The only connection the Plaintiff has with New York State is that the Chairman and majority stockholder, Pentti Kouri, lives in New York State (Hare Declaration, para. 7).
Accordingly, it is respectfully submitted that according to the place of operations test, the
principal place of business of Plaintiff is the State of California,"

(taken from Garry Hare vs. Amiga Inc. courtcase)
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Nautilus on April 19, 2007, 12:37:56 PM
Looks like a 10yo design. Messy and ugly.
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Plaz on April 19, 2007, 12:50:19 PM
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We, the "Amiga community" do not exist as far as the new


I tend to agree. I think they hope to license DE and maybe the OS to some large third party hardware developers with little or no interest in having any thing to do directly with hardware themselfs. Projects like SAM probably seem to small to fool with. I'm guessing they're looking for "bigger fish to fry".

I wonder if they feel that the classic community is just an annoying insect left over from the old days that they'd like to forget. They may have once thought to use the community as a grass roots advertising tool. But maybe now they think it contains too many critics, so it's no longer useful?

I'd still like to be suprised and have my assumptions disproved though.

Plaz
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: humppa on April 19, 2007, 01:11:17 PM
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I wonder if they feel that the classic community is just an annoying insect left over from the old days that they'd like to forget. They may have once thought to use the community as a grass roots advertising tool. But maybe now they think it contains too many critics, so it's no longer useful?


Would that necessarily be a bad thing? If they consider the "bunch of die-hards and crackpots" as no longer useful, they might want to get rid of them by selling this part of the IP/naming rights to a someone who considers it still as valuable/profitable (not sure if such party exists).

As long as they still see any value in the community, even if this value comes from selling a few boing-branded AmigaDE packs or puzzle-games to the few Amiga Inc. followers, they probably still keep them.
If they get the feeling that the community does them more harm than good however, they might consider getting rid of them. This might be a turn of the better, or can it really get any worse?
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: weirdami on April 19, 2007, 03:14:38 PM
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The new Amiga.com site looks very similar to these sites (especially the coloured tabs at the top - identical):

http://www.ruksun.com/html/aboutruksun.htm
http://amigadevindia.com/


That's not so :-?. I seem to remember ruksun being Amiga India and the other one is also India, it looks like. Probably some Indian is doing the websites now. Once all the operations move to India, they'll finally be able to install a call center in the USA.
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: lorddef on April 19, 2007, 05:44:34 PM
Amiga inc are a bunch of bum pokers.
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: jj on April 19, 2007, 08:13:22 PM
bum pokers, that made me laugh

they could also be classed as "crafty butchers"

i.e. they like their meat delievered around the back
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: hardlink on April 19, 2007, 08:25:57 PM
Poster: AmiKit  Posted: 2007/4/18 3:48:03
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    Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Why?
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Because on the 'About' page they have ripped off Joe Torre's legendary Amazing Floating Boing Ball hardware hack for Amiga shows!

(And his was real, not done with ImageFX)
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: Plaz on April 20, 2007, 02:57:41 AM
@humppa
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they might want to get rid of them by selling this part of the IP/naming rights to a someone who considers it still as valuable/profitable (not sure if such party exists).


I absolutely agree. I wonder if becoming a bigger annoyance would help things.

Plaz
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: weirdami on April 20, 2007, 04:21:55 AM
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they have ripped off Joe Torre's legendary Amazing Floating Boing Ball hardware hack for Amiga shows!


The one with the plastic tube and a fan on the bottom blowing up?
Title: Re: Check Out the All New Amiga.com
Post by: mikrucio on April 23, 2007, 12:33:03 AM
looks like crap. A crap company deserves a crap website. the old one was better.