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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: m3x on March 25, 2007, 07:11:55 PM
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Leuven, Belgium and Bassano del Grappa, Italy 25 March, 2007
Hyperion Entertainment VOF and ACube Systems Srl are pleased to announce that they have entered into a strategic partnership following a recent two day meeting of representatives of both companies in Brussels, Belgium.
Within the framework of the partnership ACube will act as a worldwide distributor of Hyperion's Amiga OS 4.0 operating system for a range of PPC hardware platforms including AmigaOne (MicroA1, SE/XE) and Classic Amiga.
More details regarding the companies strategic partnership will be announced shortly.
Amiga OS 4.0 © 2001-2007 Hyperion Entertainment VOF, developed under license from Amiga, Inc.
Amiga is a registered trademark of Amiga, Inc.
Hyperion Entertainment (http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz)
ACube Systems Srl (http://www.acube-systems.com)
Amiga OS 4.0 website (http://www.amigaos4.com)
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A fine day of the history of classic amiga. (And sam440+os4)
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Now this is good news I think. Maybe Samantha actually becomes our new Playmate ;-).
Hopefully this is not some April's Fool joke...
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I have cash ready and waiting to buy one of these with OS4.
Don't keep us waiting!!!
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Don't get the SAM reference, all I see is Acube selling OS4 for Amigas with PPC boards.
Dammy
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@Dammy:
Don't get the SAM reference, all I see is Acube selling OS4 for Amigas with PPC boards.
From the press-release, as published by ACube:
Within the framework of the partnership ACube will act as a worldwide distributor of Hyperion's Amiga OS 4.0 operating system for a range of PPC hardware platforms including AmigaOne (MicroA1, SE/XE) and Classic Amiga.
It says 'for a range of PPC hardware platforms including Amigaone....' I guess Samantha fits into 'the range'.
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Let's call the SAM a PPC board for classic Amigas. ;-)
One that doesn't actually need to be attached to the Classic machine to run. ;)
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It says 'for a range of PPC hardware platforms including Amigaone....' I guess Samantha fits into 'the range'.
No, that's new and unlicensed hardware. Right now, Hyperion can only sell OS4 for licensed Amigas. That includes A1s and 68K Amigas that have PPC accelerator. SAM is SOL till Amiga Inc signs a contract allowing it to be official licensed Amiga hardware.
Dammy
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Let's call the SAM a PPC board for classic Amigas.
One that doesn't actually need to be attached to the Classic machine to run. ;)
That would be piracy!
Dammy
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It says 'for a range of PPC hardware platforms including Amigaone....' I guess Samantha fits into 'the range'.
Don't you think it's a bit curious to leave out the actual platform the other partner is working on?
The platforms indicated are:
- AmigaONE (XE, SE, MicroA1)
- Classic Amiga (A1200, A3000, A4000, the models that can use PowerUP accelerator)
These are exactly the platforms that are licensed in the original agreement with Amiga Inc. Except MicroA1 which strictly speaking isn't covered by the original agreement.
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The way I read the statement (and maybe it is wishfull thinking) is that Acube can deliver OS4 on practically all PPC-based hardware.
So, maybe they've just signed an agreement just in case OS4 is allowed to run on Samantha (allowed by Amiga Inc that is).
Also, I think just about none of us here knows the exact wording of the contract between Amiga Inc, Hyperion and Eyetech. I don't know the exact wording. If I knew the wording than I would still have difficulties in understanding it as I'm not a lawyer. Maybe a very clever lawyer found a tiny little hole in the agreement, just big enough to allow different PPC hardware (or atleast big enough to justify a shot at it and risk legal action by Amiga Inc).
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@amiga_3k
If that would be the case, why all the hinting and wawing ? Why not a single clear no BullS### statement ?
Oh wait I forgot it's amiga....
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@Kronos:
I don't know... probably I've been driving too much today to have a clear mind. On the other hand... there has only been one Amiga-president I recall that has been 'truly' open and clear since Commodore's backruptcy: Petro Tishenko.... wait... I'll Google the right spelling... hang on...
Googles... Googles... Googles... Found it:
Petro Tyschtschenko
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Poster: dammy Posted: 2007/3/25 20:53:16
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It says 'for a range of PPC hardware platforms including Amigaone....' I guess Samantha fits into 'the range'.
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No, that's new and unlicensed hardware. Right now, Hyperion can only sell OS4 for licensed Amigas. That includes A1s and 68K Amigas that have PPC accelerator. SAM is SOL till Amiga Inc signs a contract allowing it to be official licensed Amiga hardware.
Dammy
Depends how you interpret this?
"ACube will act as a worldwide distributor of Hyperion's Amiga OS 4.0 operating system"
Maybe they have come to an arrangement with A.inc :-o
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I smell a rat.
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Maybe they have come to an arrangement with A.inc
Curiously, this part is missing.
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Poster: redrumloa Posted: 2007/3/25 21:46:19
I smell a rat.
Nah, Bouma isn't pimping this baby. ;-)
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Nice statement, but we need a new hardware for os4. I hope they can deliver it with os4 very very soon.
:-)
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I will wait for that "shortly" for more details...OS4 licence for Sam board ...
Good news about parnership between two Amiga related firms...
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A step in the right direction. Let's hope confirmation of SAM's OS4 license is the followup.
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I think that at Acube no one is mad. So They will selling amiga os4 but not to sell with their MAIN product is a kind of self punishment...
I don't read any amiga inc related licence about os4, but remember in the '80 ibm lost his platform because of retro-engineering. Simply Things just run on non ibm machines too.
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Hyperion Entertainment VOF and ACube Systems Srl
Congratulations! I'll be watching for the details.
:cheers:
redfox
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Depends how you interpret this?
"ACube will act as a worldwide distributor of Hyperion's Amiga OS 4.0 operating system"
Maybe they have come to an arrangement with A.inc
If they did, that would have made massive headlines everywhere with every single OS4 supporter crowing as loud as they could. From everything I've been reading from contract (although it wasn't the final version) being published on the Net to RVBB's statements on licenseing issues, you'll find why I made that statement. Everything I ever remember reading clearly specified that OS4 could *only* run on licensed hardware. That covered Eyetech's back as well as Amiga Inc (since they both have a stake in hardware licensing fees).
Dammy
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I smell a rat.
I think they are putting the best face forward on this as they have little else to show. They could have easily said clearly what the status of SAM is, they chose not to do so. That is saying alot by ignoring it entirely.
Dammy
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It looks like ACube is a hardware outfit. Are we seeing a new production run of some hardware that Amiga will allow to be sold with AOS4? That was the sticking point keeping Hyperion from making any money, right?
@mx3
There's a typo in the link section of uoyr news item.
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Within the framework of the partnership ACube will act as a worldwide distributor of Hyperion's Amiga OS 4.0 operating system for a range of PPC hardware platforms including AmigaOne (MicroA1, SE/XE) and Classic Amiga.
Would this "range of PPC hardware platforms" eventually include the Wii & PlayStation3? :-?
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Would this "range of PPC hardware platforms" eventually include the Wii & PlayStation3?
Only if they become licensed hardware platforms.
Dammy
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Can't we all just read it for what it is and not pick it apart to read into it what we want?
They have a license to sell and distribute Amiga OS 4.0 from Hyperion. Seems that ACube may think, by my reading into it, that this may help or lead into them getting a license for thier PPC hardware. Let's all wait to see it that announcement comes.
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The way I see it is that Acube will be producing 3 AmigaOnes - SE/XE and Micro.
I guess Sam will either be SE or micro.
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I hope this news is as good as it sounds! If it's what it seems I'll be in line to buy one!
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That would be piracy!
It would only take one clever engineer with a ZIII or CPU connector extention and a pimped SAM bios to turn a SAM board into a classic amiga expansion. Now where do we find one of those engineers?
Plaz
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Now it seems, that Hyperion decided, they can't squeeze money out of AmigaOS 4 anymore. Then they have thrown this hot potato into someone's else hands. Let's see what ACube will do with it. There is still no publicly presented Samantha board working, there are no signs of ACube getting AmigaOS 4 licence from Amiga Inc. The only fact in this announcement is that Hyperion and ACube made their unofficial partnership an official one.
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Well this is the only piece of good news we've had for a very long time, so I choose to remain optimistic that this partnership will result in a decent motherboard being released with OS4 bundled.
:pint: :pint: :pint: :pint: :pint:
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moto
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Can't we all just read it for what it is and not pick it apart to read into it what we want?
The problem is people are reading TOO much into it. Yes, it's good news that OS4 will be out for PPC accelerated Amigas. However, that is ALL the news.
They have a license to sell and distribute Amiga OS 4.0 from Hyperion. Seems that ACube may think, by my reading into it, that this may help or lead into them getting a license for thier PPC hardware. Let's all wait to see it that announcement comes.
No, that is what the spin is on this. There is nothing to show that Acube has a license from Amiga Inc to make SAM a official Amiga (and thereby qualiflied to use OS4). I doubt AI will contract Acube for it since they do not meet minimum requirements AND Hyperion is not on best terms with Amiga Inc after the byback fiasco. I could be wrong, but let us see this announcement first.
What the announcement could be is that Acube is attempting to buy out Hyperion's contract. Hyperion is in a bad legal position right now since it's a VOF and not a LLC while Acube is a LLC. That makes Hyperion's owners liable for any law suit Amiga Inc may bring against them.
Dammy
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Name & Registered Office:
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Maybe they have aquired the Eyetech license . . . :-? Problem Solved.
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hoax link removed :-x
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What the announcement could be is that Acube is attempting to buy out Hyperion's contract. Hyperion is in a bad legal position right now since it's a VOF and not a LLC while Acube is a LLC. That makes Hyperion's owners liable for any law suit Amiga Inc may bring against them.
now who's reading too much into things ?!
ACube are the resellers of OS4 that is all. Hyperion are a development company, and arent geared up for distribution of their software.
actually, I seem to remember that ACube's precursor (essentially Aorg user m3x, I forget the company's name) handled the replacement of my OS4 official pre release CD for an Update 1 CD, way back when.
As far as Hyperion are concerned, ACube are shifting volumes.
As far as ACube are concerned, they are providing a service for which they get paid.
nothing more, nothing less.
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@c64_d0c
AmigaOne II ? :-P
Bummer, it was a hoax :-)
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@Krashan
Now it seems, that Hyperion decided, they can't squeeze money out of AmigaOS 4 anymore. Then they have thrown this hot potato into someone's else hands. Let's see what ACube will do with it. There is still no publicly presented Samantha board working, there are no signs of ACube getting AmigaOS 4 licence from Amiga Inc. The only fact in this announcement is that Hyperion and ACube made their unofficial partnership an official one.
I don't think you're right on this one. The news explicitly specifies that ACube will distribute Hyperion's AmigaOS 4. I think you got your idea after reading news on ppa.pl which was not translated correctly. Always read the original anouncement to get the original meaning, especially if you know english :D.
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@Dammy
No, that's new and unlicensed hardware. Right now, Hyperion can only sell OS4 for licensed Amigas. That includes A1s and 68K Amigas that have PPC accelerator. SAM is SOL till Amiga Inc signs a contract allowing it to be official licensed Amiga hardware.
Um.. Do you have some sort of insider info? How do you know that they do not have a license?
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Curiously, this part is missing.
Maybe they want us to wait in suspense until next announcement :-P
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If they did, that would have made massive headlines everywhere with every single OS4 supporter crowing as loud as they could. From everything I've been reading from contract (although it wasn't the final version) being published on the Net to RVBB's statements on licenseing issues, you'll find why I made that statement. Everything I ever remember reading clearly specified that OS4 could *only* run on licensed hardware. That covered Eyetech's back as well as Amiga Inc (since they both have a stake in hardware licensing fees).
Maybe the Samantha team want to be quiet until they actually have it ready for release unlike some other bogus announcements that failed to materialize time after time.
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Um.. Do you have some sort of insider info? How do you know that they do not have a license?
Didn't Amiga Inc tell us all, if it's not on their Web Site, it's not true? :lol:
Dammy
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Didn't Amiga Inc tell us all, if it's not on their Web Site, it's not true?
Do you mean that AmigaOS4 final is not released? :-D
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Maybe the Samantha team want to be quiet until they actually have it ready for release unlike some other bogus announcements that failed to materialize time after time.
Maybe, but it's a lot more likely that they put together a product with the intention of using it as a platform for OS4, started negotiations to try to get a license, got stonewalled, and now are making do with whatever they can get.
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Good news.
(I think.)
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Do you mean that AmigaOS4 final is not released?
If it's been released, shouldn't the coupon ($50 and $100) be honored by Amiga Inc? If it's been released, shouldn't the third party devs have been paid for their long and hard work? :roll:
Dammy
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If it's been released, shouldn't the coupon ($50 and $100) be honored by Amiga Inc? If it's been released, shouldn't the third party devs have been paid for their long and hard work?
But I meant that as there's absolutely no mention of the release on amiga.com news section, it means that it CANNOT be true, you know? :-)
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But I meant that as there's absolutely no mention of the release on amiga.com news section, it means that it CANNOT be true, you know?
Guess they are correct since it's a final "pre-release" of OS4? If it had been a OS4 release, alot of folks are due some cash and we know neither Hyperion nor Amiga Inc has any money to begin with.
Dammy
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My WindowsXP SP1 is becoming older and older, and I don't intend to use Vista, never.
I hope OS4 can be my new main OS, even if I have to pay a little fortune for a G5 motherboard or SAM440.
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