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Title: SAM440 english website
Post by: mordock on November 08, 2006, 06:11:49 AM
Bassano del Grappa (Italy) - 7th november 2006. SAM440 website is now available also in english. You can reach it at the URL: www.sam440.com/eng (http://www.sam440.com/eng)

Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: humppa on November 08, 2006, 10:15:57 AM
Looks much more professional than anything we have see from Troika so far.  :lol:
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: jj on November 08, 2006, 12:11:41 PM
Will this thing run OS4 MorphOS without too much tinkering , im guessing not due to the lack of northbridge/southbridge.

I wonder if these are one of the companies A inc were in talks with regarding hardware.  Would be nice to haev hardware, but not exactly speed demon.

Unless they are going to ship OS4 with this for the imbeded market
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: Agafaster on November 08, 2006, 01:53:44 PM
:-o wow ! nice lookin board!

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Will this thing run OS4 MorphOS without too much tinkering , im guessing not due to the lack of northbridge/southbridge.


why, does that make a difference ?

or to put another way -

why does that make a difference ?


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I wonder if these are one of the companies A inc were in talks with regarding hardware. Would be nice to haev hardware, but not exactly speed demon.

could be, who knows. looks good - Good luck to em, when can I buy one ;-)
not so bothered about speed demon - as long as it runs OS4/linux reasonably well thats ok!
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: keropi on November 08, 2006, 04:00:02 PM
looks more advanced than Efika, but what about price? and what is the point if it does not run MOS or AOS4 ?
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: humppa on November 08, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
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looks more advanced than Efika, but what about price?


Including OS4 (still unknown, no license yet), it is roughly 3x the price of Efika.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: keropi on November 08, 2006, 04:41:57 PM
a ~500eur board?
lol, no thank you.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: adolescent on November 08, 2006, 05:39:47 PM
Someone needs to get a license for the Magicbox.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: hooligan on November 09, 2006, 04:38:12 AM
http://www.sam440.com/eng/privacy.html

Thats the most wierd english I have ever seen :-)
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: krashan on November 09, 2006, 12:57:19 PM
Looks much more professional

If you call publishing memory tests done on other machine on product page professional... Well. For me it just means Samantha is not functional as they can't even run as simple application as memory test on it.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: number6 on November 09, 2006, 01:13:19 PM
@keropi

From one of the Samantha Team members posting on AW:
m3x:
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The price for such a sistem without OS4 is max Euro 350, at the actual estimated production volume, Euro/USD exchange rate, and DDR ram price.


#6
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: keropi on November 09, 2006, 04:15:04 PM
350eur eh? not that bad...
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: humppa on November 09, 2006, 04:32:58 PM
I think the price including OS4 and VAT is much more meaningful:

"Target price for the 667 Mhz, 256Mb ram including OS4 is Euro 450 + local taxes."

Link (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=21073&forum=32&start=40&viewmode=flat&order=0#336593)

So in the end it will be around EUR 500 for the whole system. Add to that case, PSU, drives, etc., in order to have a complete working system.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: TheMagicM on November 10, 2006, 02:49:40 PM
Almost $600 for a motherboard?  you've got to be f'in kidding me.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: number6 on November 10, 2006, 03:15:23 PM
@TheMagicM

In my previous post here I quoted the cost of the mobo from the developer.
I see no mention of 600 in that post.

#6
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: TheMagicM on November 10, 2006, 03:36:07 PM
I read the link above my post...  even at $515 thats way too much.  That thing needs to sell for about $300 US with OS4.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: Agafaster on November 10, 2006, 03:45:53 PM
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I read the link above my post... even at $515 thats way too much. That thing needs to sell for about $300 US with OS4.


but you need to question what you want: a decent price point, or a reasonable spec ?
cos until the numbers pick up, the economies of scale mean its one or t'other. no two ways about it, especially if you want a good quality build.
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: number6 on November 10, 2006, 03:55:38 PM
@TheMagicM

Please understand that my previous post related only to the fact that you used the term
"motherboard", and that I was merely trying to point out the developer's quoted cost on that
cost was significantly different than what you stated.
Discussing what constitutes a "complete system", I agree, is a different topic.
Note that this is scalable, which means options affecting end cost to users are available.

#6
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: redrumloa on November 10, 2006, 05:33:33 PM
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Almost $600 for a motherboard? you've got to be f'in kidding me


Gotta keep going back to the question of WHY they never selected the Pegasos II. Too late now, obviously.

$600 isn't going to lure too many, a few hundred perhaps.  :-(
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: Framiga on November 10, 2006, 05:51:00 PM
what a weird place is becoming "amigaland"! (generally speaking)

Moderators thats acts like trolls.... trolls whom become moderators!

erm!... hey red, nothing to sell today? ;-)
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: TheMagicM on November 11, 2006, 05:53:12 AM
@red:  
I agree.  There's already a motherboard out there...why not use it?  Nothing is that easy in Amiga World.

@#6:  why start out with a "flagship" motherboard price when you are looking for a "intro" to the new Amiga?   Get a cheap and good mobo out that runs OS4 or MOS.. then get the more expensive and faster mobo out to lure people that want a power system.

@FRAmiga:
 :crazy:
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: MickTheLip on November 14, 2006, 10:50:16 PM
I hate to see what deals like this would do to any Amiga Revival!!!!!http://go.theregister.com/news/http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/11/13/redten_free_pc_package/
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: kreciu on September 20, 2007, 06:09:45 PM
Hi,

You know this is no JUST a motherboard... processor (normally you will pay like ~$100), graphic card (I know this is standrad), memory (~$50-100)and other "stuff". Considering that they do this for maybe 10000 people (my imagination is big :) ) it's not bad...

I can build my ami based on that for about $700 not bad at all. My condition is OS4 without that I don't event think about that.

Mac mini is around $700-900. Yes, I know it's different configuration, but Ami DON't need so much to run VERY nice. (other example is Vista vs. XP... you have to have 2 Gb ram, you HAVE TO ;) ).

The Red One is coming :)

Kreciu
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: Nlandas on February 12, 2008, 01:33:35 PM
I just read this old discussion of the SAM440. If they can work out a license deal for AmigaOS 4 are people still thinking that 450 Euros is too much. I'm seeing old PPC cards and even some 060 accelerators go for most/all of that.

So it seems there are some that really want to run OS 4. I'm one of them. I'd love to help get new hardware on the market running AmigaOS 4. Now Acube has the board for sale. Does anyone have the inside scoop on if they'll be able to get licensing of AmigaOS 4? I'd imagine this is a big part of the legal battle since I'm sure Amiga, Inc. hasn't learned from past history and wants to be the sole hardware supplier.   :roll:

Well anyway, I'm just curious if anyone has heard anything new on this.

-Nyle
Title: Re: SAM440 english website
Post by: Tension on October 18, 2008, 02:50:29 PM
:bump:

Looking back at this thread really intrigued me.