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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga Retail News / Sales => Topic started by: DJS on February 11, 2006, 03:39:51 AM
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Elbox Computer is pleased to announce the IDE Trade-Up Program, in which you can upgrade your existing 4-way IDE interface or Zorro II IDE adapter, irrespective of its producer, to the Elbox FastATA controller.
The Trade-In, Trade-Up Program offers customers who order the FastATA controller in this Trade-Up Program a 30 EUR mail-in rebate when their old IDE adapter is received by Elbox Computer.
Elbox's FastATA controllers -- unlike 4-way IDE interfaces and Zorro II IDE adapters -- supports PIO-3, PIO-4 and PIO-5 modes. With the FastATA controller your hard drives and ATAPI devices will work up to 500% faster than with any 4-way IDE interface or any Zorro II IDE adapter.
For details, visit IDE Trade-Up Program page (http://eu-buy.elbox.com/cgibin/shop?show=910M993).
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"The IDE Trade-Up Program is available only for residents of the European Union"
Once again - totally useless... :-(
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That's discriminating. Wasn't most of the good parts of the Amiga born in the USA? Don't they care about us.
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But it does also say "If you are interested in this upgrade but you live outside the European Union contact Elbox Sales Dept. at sales@elbox.com for an offer for you."
Must be worth a check ? Good luck :-)
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The Amiga was never as big in USA as in Europe.
Atari dominated USA. The biggest markets were
always Germany and UK.
It's a financial decision for Elbox. By keeping
it within EU they don't have to worry about any
custom fees and VAT for every interface they
recieve. If they accept "outsiders" they may
end up losing big money on those fees..
It's just as discriminating as all US eBay
sellers and companies who can't ship outside
their continent. It's the same.
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Most of them don't ship because they are either lazy or don't want to hassle with the post office trying to get things out of the country. I swear the post office sees a package going out of the country, they decide to try to x-ray it, dissect it, and look for WMD's or something.
Most respectable companies ship overseas
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That's discriminating. Wasn't most of the good parts of the Amiga born in the USA? Don't they care about us.
But the amiga was still a big failure in USA while it was a huge success in Europe.
The reason for this offer not including usa, is probably because the company is located in Europe and the fact that it would be more expensive and troublesome to ship to USA. Is funny you people complain, as it seems like 99% of US based companies does the same.. "This offer is only avaliable to US citizen" and i even get ads of their offer in my damn mailbox.
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Most respectable companies ship overseas
And they do ship oversea afaik, but this just does not include this offer..
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one of the biggest sucesses of the amiga -the toaster was in the us, and several amiga models and accelerators etc. were designed and built in weschester pa, i think it is atari was more popular in europe as a whole and amiga was more popular in the us, gb and germany
elbox is not in the us so it isnt just the shipping, customs,etc that is the problem, the product may not be certified for use in the states yet. the us is very strict about rf radiation and stuff like that. europe is much more leniant, except for gb from what i hear.
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Atari only successful for the 2600 and very few of the 8 bits. More people then anything had Apple II's and C='s. A lot more people had Apple's and C='s. When you get to the Atari ST's that got even more skewerd as Atari was probably more popular in Europe. I think I never really seen a ST in real life, but I saw a Amiga 500 at an Air Force base exchange. Next day it was gone.
I guess at that time people were quite content on slapping their 286's and other things to play with the ST's. Newtek wouldn't have really played with the idea of such and expensive toy if there wasn't much use for them.
Okay I think this is getting personal. I'm just going to back away before I get the Amiga virus.
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But it does also say "If you are interested in this upgrade but you live outside the European Union contact Elbox Sales Dept. at sales@elbox.com for an offer for you."
Must be worth a check ? Good luck
Oops, I guess I should have kept reading. Thanks.:oops:
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i think it is atari was more popular in europe as a whole and amiga was more popular in the us
The opposite is more true... The Amiga was a failure in US when it came to home market, but it did take of later in the video production/tv station scene in the US. The amiga was the biggest success in Europe and here in Norway i never saw a atari being sold in stores, but the amiga500 was sold everywhere and most people i knew had one themself.
Most americans i have talked to seem to know the Atari better than the Amiga, while the exact opposite is true here.
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They can't have a program like this for non-EU residents. They would have to pay import tolls for every card imported. :-(
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Most respectable companies ship overseas
Heh, say that to Amazon and the like. You obviously never tried to buy US video games from outside the States ;)
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Hmmm, think I might go for this since I've had nothing but problems with my Elbox 4 way IDE splitter. I'll still end up losing money :-x But at least it will work.
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moto
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Amazon isn't respectiable... They tried to sue and take over a small independant women's operated book store because they had a name that was close to theres. Even though this store was in business long before the internet was even a speck on the BBS scene, Amazon tried every dirty trick to get the judge to be in there favor.
I really don't respect Amazon.
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I knew a lot of people in the southeastern USA with Amiga's. I knew many CBM/Amiga user groups (NASAU aka Amiga.org was one). I did not know a single person with an Atari ST...I only met one person with an Atari 8 bitter...everyone else had C64's and Tandy CoCo's.
I think the perception about Amiga being bigger overseas comes from the longevity overseas, but I think that has to do with the USA being so spread out. There are 60 Million or so people in the UK. In the USA there are 280 Million or so. The difference comes in population density. The entirety of the UK is about the size of Alabama (and maybe half of Mississippi - The United Kingdowm would be our 12th largest state in size). There were many Amiga users within a reasonable drive to London. The Amiga stores were able to maintain a large enough customer base to keep their doors open. In America, it is so spread out that the dealers closed down faster even though there were more users initially. Whereas there are 60 Million people in the UK, the Alabama and Mississippi combined population is under 7 Million.
Germany is a similar situation. 83 million people in what would be the fifth largest state in area.
Look at Texas. It is our second largest state in both population and size. Population is 21 Million, but they are spread over a land mass that is larger than the UK, Germany, and Ireland combined. Those three countries combine for 153 Million people.
Even The most populous state in America - California, has a land mass about 50,000 sq/km larger than Germany, but less than half the population.
Amiga had a longer life in more densely populated areas of the US (New England), but as rural America moved to PC (which already had a hold on business) and Mac, so did the larger cities.
Atari did not do nearly as well in the USA as it did in Europe.
Here is a clip from an article about Atari:
The Tramiels have accomplished much in the four years since they wrested Atari from Warner Communications, but there's still room for further successes and improvements. Company officials routinely concur that ST sales in the U.S. must improve. The ST sells phenomenally well in Europe, especially in Germany and the United Kingdom. But domestic sales haven't grown as hoped, and the introduction of the Mega line--replete with a new laser printer and hard disk drive--has not significantly improved matters.
Why has the ST sold so well in Europe, yet not taken off in the United States? Leonard Tramiel offers the following theory: "There are several reasons. One is that the United States has this terrible disease called IBM-itis, and the IBM PC had gotten a pretty good stranglehold on business here. Plus, Apple had never gotten its stranglehold on Europe. What you wound up with in Europe was the PC, Mac, and ST all arriving at just about the same time. People had a fair, uniform comparison, 'Which of these machines do you want?' and they looked at the price and performance and people bought STs. In the U.S., we had to fight an I-don't-know-how-many-hundred-million-dollar propaganda campaign from Apple, and we didn't have hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on propaganda. Finally, the phrase, 'No one was ever fired for buying an IBM' I don't believe has ever been translated into German."