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Title: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: DJS on December 31, 2005, 02:40:21 PM
Some recent rumours suggest that DRAGON 1200 may not be a real thing. To dispel all doubts Elbox invited two strongest authorities with proven credibility in the Amiga world to conduct personal inspection at the Elbox facilities.




Read more about it here (http://ext.neostrada.pl/elbox_news/news_05-12-31.html).
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: x56h34 on December 31, 2005, 03:33:27 PM
Nice. :-) Happy New Year to you guys. Let's hope that the inspectors have approved the Dragon for a quick release. ;-)
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Invisix on December 31, 2005, 03:40:52 PM
I honestly am very much anticipating release of the Dragon Coldfire accelerator! I am hoping it's released soon!  :-D
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: adonay on December 31, 2005, 05:03:56 PM
(http://ext.neostrada.pl/elbox_news/inspection-1.jpg)

nice teddy :-)

Adonay :-D
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: keropi on December 31, 2005, 05:11:21 PM
lol, dragon or power vixxen ???
wow, we have a choise!  :-D
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: adolescent on December 31, 2005, 05:37:54 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: joe_avarage on December 31, 2005, 06:32:36 PM
Don't they know, you shouldn't put a fur close to electronic componentes ?  :lol:
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Rob on December 31, 2005, 06:56:11 PM
Don't they know, you shouldn't put a fur close to electronic componentes ?


As long as the components arn't powered up and the teddy's have their anti static bands on it should be alright
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Rob on December 31, 2005, 06:56:12 PM
What do you reckon the chances are of there being a PPC cpu card available in the future.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: jj on December 31, 2005, 07:24:52 PM
So if they have gone to these lengths to prove the dragons existence, wht not the same deal with the shark.....
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Savan on December 31, 2005, 07:37:48 PM
Which one trashes the RDB? Pooh or Rabbit  :lol:
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: weirdami on December 31, 2005, 08:12:34 PM
@Saven

I think rabbit pooh does.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: yogisumo on December 31, 2005, 10:11:07 PM
Yawn.. If anybody comes out with something for an A4000(T), let me know...
Title: Nice.
Post by: kd7ota on December 31, 2005, 10:54:48 PM
I am glad they are still sticking to the project regardless all the negative feedback.  Now I might just take my Amiga 1200 and buy the dragon 1200 when it comes.   :-D

Good job!
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Plaz on January 01, 2006, 02:20:57 AM
"Honey!" :lol:
Even if Dragon is still real, will it be stuck on OS3.9 or will there be a porting license for coldfire to run  OS4? No flames please, just thinking out loud.

Plaz
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Rob on January 01, 2006, 04:18:13 AM
@Plaz

They would only pay the licence for OS4 on th SharkPPC.  The coldfire part of this product is not aimed at the OS4 market.  The dargon look like it could more or less run standalone and a PPC CPU module could probably be used.

So far Elbox have only stated that the SharkPPC can be used.  The PPC CPU module is pure speculation on my part.

The SharkPPC makes more sense for Elbox as it will fit in the mediator 1200/3000/4000.
Although I think elbox have their own fab, so it be less of a deal for them to do a card exlusive to the dragon.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Dr_Righteous on January 01, 2006, 04:56:19 AM
IIRC Elbox has already stated that Dragon will still be usable under OS4 (with Shark)... By replacing a good deal of the 68K JIT functions with a REAL, 68K processor. The ColdFire functions will be MUCH faster than emulated instructions on a PPC.

So no, it's not going to be stuck in OS3.x.

I do have one concern tho... Isn't the CPU card a little too close to the AGP slot? I mean that can't be good for cooling.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: boing on January 01, 2006, 08:37:06 AM
Well this is the second little visual prank Elbox has played. I'm not impressed.  They should spend their time getting somebody who is fluent in English to communicate with the public so that Elbox can understand what we're asking them and then give us answers that actually are worth something.  The email replies I got from them were pretty useless, sad to say.


As for being "limited" to 3.9 -- AROS is supposedly being extended to embrace 3.9 and move it forward.  IIRC.
And there was the recent Hyperion chat where there was uncommented banter about OS4 for "classic" Amigas. http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46389

 There's also something called AFA OS3.91 which uses AROS to extend 3.9.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=46385

and here:
http://amidev.kilu.net/afaupload.php3


As the person involved isn't fluent in English, it is a little hard for me to understand.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Tripitaka on January 01, 2006, 03:48:23 PM
Poster: Dr_Righteous  Posted: 2006/1/1 4:56:19

I do have one concern tho... Isn't the CPU card a little too close to the AGP slot? I mean that can't be good for cooling.


 I wouldn't be too concerned, Coldfire chips run nice and cool. :-D
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: Chain on January 02, 2006, 03:05:39 PM
NiCd leakable battery? d´oh!
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: MskoDestny on January 03, 2006, 07:46:38 PM
I have to wonder why they went to the trouble of photoshopping the background out of the image.

I've pretty much lost what little faith I had in the eventual release of this product. All of their excuses for the delays and now their silence makes it seem like they are hiding something (like they don't have the money to actually do a production run and are hoping some investor will come and save them). It would be much easier to be understanding about the situation if they would just be honest about it.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: justthatgood on January 06, 2006, 03:23:13 AM
Well I guess none of this really matters anymore because I really don't have a job to have the money to buy any of this stuff.  :-(  But some day I might be able to.
Title: Re: New Year Inspection at Elbox
Post by: jiffydos on January 06, 2006, 08:27:49 PM
Doesn't look photoshopped to me... looks like it's just sitting on a table... but I could be wrong.