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Title: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Mikey_C on December 28, 2005, 06:06:48 AM
On Wednesday, 28th of December at 19:30 GMT. there will be a live IRC Session with Hyperion Entertainment. The people behind OS4.

This will take place on #amigaworld. Please visit http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2793 for details.
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: koaftder on December 15, 2005, 10:57:09 PM
@lou_dias:

Dude, heres your chance!

 :lol:   :crazy:   :roll:
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: motorollin on December 16, 2005, 08:43:38 AM
10 INPUT "Is OS4 finished yet?";hyperion$
20 PRINT hyperion$
30 IF hyperion$="yes" GOTO 100
40 GOTO 10
100 PRINT "YAY!!!"

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moto
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: x56h34 on December 16, 2005, 01:19:50 PM
@motorollin:

10 PRINT "WHEN IT'S DONE!"
20 GOTO 10
READY.
RUN

WHEN IT'S DONE!
WHEN IT'S DONE!
WHEN IT'S DONE!
WHEN IT'S DONE!
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WHEN IT'S DONE!
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:-)
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: neofree on December 16, 2005, 04:56:14 PM
10 PRINT "LAME! ";
20 GOTO 10
RUN
LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME! LAME!

Seriously now. Could Microsoft, Apple, Sony or anyone else get away with such a lame answer for so long?
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: reflect on December 16, 2005, 05:17:17 PM
You're comparing Hyperion with those guys? I know of a number of games that has been waaaay wrong on release dates.. and, wasn't Microsofts next OS pushed back another year or two regarding its release fairly recently?
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Kees on December 16, 2005, 05:33:12 PM
And your comparing Hyperion with Microsoft ???
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Turambar on December 16, 2005, 08:06:42 PM
:-o Kees is here
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Kees on December 16, 2005, 10:04:33 PM
hehe i am here every day :)
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Argo on December 16, 2005, 11:42:38 PM
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wasn't Microsofts next OS pushed back another year or two regarding its release fairly recently?


yes, it was. Then they moved the date ahead from the new delayed date. Of course they also said they reduced the features list to do this.
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: motorollin on December 17, 2005, 09:47:00 AM
Will a transcript of the chat session be available for those of us who cannot be there at the time?

--
moto
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Argo on December 19, 2005, 02:55:35 AM
I'm sure there will be. There have in the past.
I plan to catch the session, so either way there will be.
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Dr_Righteous on December 28, 2005, 06:37:54 AM
No no no, Hyperion is not M$... They're akin to 3D Realms with regard to DN4... "When it's done." Taking about as long too.
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: unusedunused on December 28, 2005, 09:24:51 AM
>wasn't Microsofts next OS pushed back another year or two regarding its release fairly recently?

Yes but there was no vacaton of 4 Jears in OS development.M$ have not say 2001.So older windows get no updates our new OS come in 6 months.Now are gone 4 years do you really think User or developer wait this long time

also see apple.They have enhance there Macos8 to PPC.It never was full native.But it was furtherdevelop and
limit the gap hold Users until the full native Macosx was here.In the first time of macosx many users have this
too much limits.No problem they can use macos8 with dualboot and dont must wait

BTW: to say something positive about OS4

There is a game duke nukem forever,compare with that OS4 is great.

But OS4 can not compare with the worsest to see if it can get sucsess.It must compare with the current availible
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Louis Dias on December 28, 2005, 11:40:35 AM
@ktfldrwhatever

get a life
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Warface on December 28, 2005, 01:02:08 PM
Announcements by Amiga Inc. Then QA sessions with Fleecy. Irc sessions with Hyperion. Umm... What next?
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: System on December 28, 2005, 01:47:16 PM
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Seriously now. Could Microsoft, Apple, Sony or anyone else get away with such a lame answer for so long?

Ummm. Serious problem with this analogy.  The companies you mention above are real, with billions of dollars tied up in development.  Hyperion (despite their best efforts) are still a "garage level" company with a few guys programming in their spare time to get things done.  They all have real jobs elsewhere to actually pay the bills.

Wayne
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: unusedunused on December 28, 2005, 02:59:50 PM
A garage firma dont announce for cebit in 2003 and say short before cebit that the progress of OS4 is not
far enough to show something

The message text amiga absence on cebit is in english.short german text say that amigainc hyperion Eytech
dont show anything.try a translator if you want read more.Here stand market introdution

http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2003-03-00053-DE.html

when you look what happen currently until 2005 this sound like a joke (april joke),Maybe to sell the aone better.
But i cant believe that Hyperion and Eyetech realy dont know that in March 2003 nothing usefull from OS4
can show on cebit and a market introdution is not possible
 
If you want something to laugh read old statetments what shoulkd happen and compare what End 2005 is really here
.

But i am really intrestet what they say now ;-)
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: seer on December 28, 2005, 08:59:51 PM
For what it's worth, it was Amiga Inc who said OS4 would be released (several times), not Hyperion. Don't blame them for the screw ups that Amiga Inc made/make. (It's like blaming the coupons on Eyetech/Hyperion while they had nothing to do with that).

Does that mean Hyperion didn't tell Amiga Inc to go ahead and say that ? Who knows, but I doubt that.


For those who missed it transcript (http://www.severin.f2s.com/transcript.html)
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: JoannaK on December 28, 2005, 11:15:46 PM
Seer: I'm not going to go trough all Ann.lu and AW.net posts but there are numerous posts from hyperion people (including Hermans) about various timelines (like spring 2002 and since then each and everu xmas) making empty promices and keepinmg people waiting for product to be released..
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: Wilse on December 29, 2005, 10:00:20 AM
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making empty promices and keepinmg people waiting for product to be released..


Oooooh - Terrible, isn't it?
I'm surprised you managed to keep the faith so long Joanna.... ;-)
Title: Re: LIVE Q&A Session with Hyperion Entertainment
Post by: unusedunused on December 29, 2005, 10:50:12 AM
>For what it's worth, it was Amiga Inc who said OS4 would be released (several times),
>not Hyperion. Don't blame them for the screw ups that Amiga Inc made/make. (It's like blaming

Hyperion write too in the Q&A of amogaworld they are developers.So they normaly announce nothing.
They have to work on OS4 anouncemnt do their marketing Department in that case amigainc

It is very unrealistic that Ainc (they do nothing develop) not ask Hyperion if it is possible to sale something.

Now for about 1 year or so ainc tell that they are not envolved anymore in OS4,so Hyperion must do marketing
alone.See their webpage

BTW: I think Eyetech Amigainc do their Job.Eyetech build a HW 2002 that as we all know work in case for OS4
     and Linnux DMA drivers are now too out for that.
     in 2002 the specs are not so outdatatet as now end 2005.So now when sell OS4 to new User
     a new better Hardware need design or the old need produce with lower proce
 
     ainc look to make OS4 public (date of cebit)
   
Only fault was that a final OS4 was not availivble and thats fault of Hyperion.I understand that a complete
rewritten OS cant develop in 6 Months.But who tell that this must complete rewritten for the new HW.

Apple go to PPC HW with macosx8 without memprotect few native code and enhance that more and more and
introduce new API for memprotect
 
This hold the developers and Users and they have time and money to develop a new OS with memprotect.
Hyperion (Genesi) need only do same steps

>Oooooh - Terrible, isn't it?

Yes it keep developers wating instead of help or support developing on AROS or other solutins

I begin in oct 2005 with AFA OS.When there are no promises i begin with that earlier.

but when i begin with that 2003 then everyone say what should another OS support OS4 its the future.it can only take few months to final.

now years are gone,i think most have left amiga.But i like the amiga wont geive it up.See the aone Poll.There are less 140 micro aones sold.I understand that eyetech dont build the HW anymore