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Title: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Dr_Righteous on December 15, 2005, 04:15:59 AM
Amiga-Hardware.com, one of the best sources of information on hardware for out beloved platform has been taken offline. A simple text message reading, "Due to complaints the site is offline. It "may" return at some point, but with reduced contents." is all that remains in its place.

Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Dr_Righteous on December 15, 2005, 04:24:15 AM
The really weird part is I think I was trying to access it while it was being taken offline. When I first got there, I had the frames in place, but the pages for the frames were not found... I refreshed, then I got that message.

I'm curious as to what sort of complaints could have caused this. I'm really rather upset, I rely pretty heavilly on A-H.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Tomas on December 15, 2005, 04:28:57 AM
:cry:  :-?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: shayes1981 on December 15, 2005, 04:34:56 AM
:getmad:  Whats up with this????
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Jeff on December 15, 2005, 04:46:03 AM
I am upset to see it taken down as well. I have emailed the webmaster a couple times over the years to let him know how fond I am of the site. I also inquired about purchasing an offline copy of the site less manuals and drivers. He indicated it might be possible.  Lets hope it gets resolved soon.

Jeff
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: adolescent on December 15, 2005, 05:21:10 AM
This is terrible news.  Are any of the mirrors still up?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: zombi on December 15, 2005, 06:49:44 AM
Here there is a working mirror:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040621203445/http://www.amiga-hardware.com/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20040621203445/http://www.amiga-hardware.com/)

And are there anyone here with spare time to download site's contents because this was all time referance for Amiga Stuff. And its uniqe content must be held i think.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: ChaosLord on December 15, 2005, 08:25:27 AM
How do I download an entire website all in one go?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: BenShep on December 15, 2005, 08:35:48 AM
wget - you will have to specify some command line options to get everything.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: humppa on December 15, 2005, 08:49:49 AM
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How do I download an entire website all in one go?

I am not sure if there is a tool available for Amiga that would do something like that.
For XP, you could try

Webcopier
http://tinyurl.com/3n6qr
or
Surfoffline
http://tinyurl.com/9sr3a
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Effy on December 15, 2005, 08:51:28 AM
I did notice now and then that the pictures on The Big Book were replaced by an add of "would you buy a used car from this man ?" and then a picture of somebody who looked like David Hasslehof  :lol: Maybe some idiots tried to hack the Book and Ian wants to clean up everything to prevent this to happen again ??  :-?
I also love this Book and have helped Ian several times by sending up detailed pictures of my cards (no, this time pictures without my girlfriend on the background) ...
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: MrZammler on December 15, 2005, 08:56:42 AM
Has anyone contacted him about it? Any news as to what for it was taken down?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: xeron on December 15, 2005, 09:20:11 AM
Wow. This really sucks. Amiga-hardware.com is a VERY useful site!
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: CD32Freak on December 15, 2005, 09:25:13 AM
There is still the Amiga Hardware Database (http://amiga.resource.cx/) :-)
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: dylansmrjo on December 15, 2005, 09:32:20 AM
I'm using websphinx to get the site down. Hopefully the webarchive won't fail me. Sometimes it's really difficult to get through.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Lando on December 15, 2005, 10:52:04 AM
So, who complained, and what was the nature of the complaint?

Come on, don't be shy, people want to know.

amiga-hardware.com was an invaluable resource.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Tahoe on December 15, 2005, 12:04:42 PM
There is an updates message on it now:

The Big Book of Amiga Hardware
Firstly, apologies for the previous message. It was written as a quick placeholder in the early hours of the morning and I needed to sleep. The site has been taken down because I received a copyright violation notice from the author of a driver. Perhaps it was foolish of me to offer such things for download. The site has always been non-profit, is ad-banner free and has cost me a lot in the 7 years it has been running in both time and money. It is also the product of hundreds of contributors who have taken the time and effort to send submissions. It's for these reasons that I would like the site to return, however I need to decide whether it's worth the risk and if so what alterations need to be made.


- Thanks, Ian.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: cv643d on December 15, 2005, 12:19:01 PM
Sad to hear that my absolute favorite Amiga site has been taken offline.

I hope someone can find a solution to the problem.

I have also contributed some things and I never thought a site like that could get into problems  :-?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Oli_hd on December 15, 2005, 12:19:25 PM
Nooooo  :-o  :-(  :-?
I was using it only just last night, its a great site.
It would be so sad to see it close.

---- reads reply above-------
just remove the driver involved, or all the drivers, it isnt the main part of the site.
I dont get why they would complain about a driver being uploaded though.. a program maybe but the driver is rather "hardware dependant" ;-)
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: keropi on December 15, 2005, 12:25:15 PM
who the hell contacted him? elbox? the poseidon author? who????
He should just disable the offending driver, not take down the whole site! but I guess he knows better...
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: mboehmer_e3b on December 15, 2005, 02:37:37 PM
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the poseidon author?


For sure not, as Poseidon is available in AmiNet... but comparing the site before taking down and after the (hopefully soon) revival may give some hints.

@Ian: hope you can get this issue from your desk soon. Your site is a source of information many people would miss!

Michael
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: platon42 on December 15, 2005, 03:34:40 PM
> the poseidon author?

No.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Pyromania on December 15, 2005, 08:10:39 PM
Perhaps what the site needs is to be sponsored and hosted by a commerical Amiga friendly entity. If the site is not too big DiscreetFX volunteers to be that company. We would handle any future complaints and free the designer of the site, Ian in this case of any worry since complaining companies would come to DiscreetFX, not him for complaints if any. Why would DiscreetFX do this? We think this site is a valuable resource and have used it many times ourselves, we don't want to see it die. DiscreetFX would charge nothing for providing this service to the Amiga community and Big Book of Amiga Hardware.

Best regards

-DiscreetFX Team
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: c64_d0c on December 15, 2005, 08:31:20 PM
this is the work of a morphos user that for sure... someone stepped on his butterfly and he kill the whola site!!  :-x
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Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: x56h34 on December 15, 2005, 09:35:38 PM
@c64_d0c:

Sorry, but that makes absolutely no sense. Why would a MOS user feel threatened by TBBOAH site?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Trev on December 15, 2005, 10:34:48 PM
I wish we knew who sent the request and why. I'm always on the lookout for companies to boycott. ;-)

It's always a good idea to get permission before distributing software of any kind, even if the distribution of that software would likely be covered by fair use. Only the owner of a hardware device can make use of a hardware driver, and since the device owner is already an authorized user of the device driver, no law has been broken if they download and use a copy of the driver. If an unauthorized user downloads the software, they can't use it, so there would be no way for the author to prove harm has been done. That doesn't apply to value-added software that isn't required for a hardware device to function, but the definition of "function" is arguable.

Edit: Hopefully, the person who requested the removal of the driver offered an alternative method for authorized users to obtain a copy.

Trev
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Lando on December 16, 2005, 08:32:06 AM
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this is the work of a morphos user that for sure... someone stepped on his butterfly and he kill the whola site!!


Damn those evil MOS users!!

I heard they eat babies and murder small kittens too!

Thank God they're easy to spot - the horns, '666' birthmark and cloven feet give them away every time.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: c64_d0c on December 16, 2005, 01:51:49 PM
and when you step on their little butterfly you know whats going to happen..  :lol:
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Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: itix on December 16, 2005, 02:36:39 PM
You have no balls :)
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: jjans on December 16, 2005, 03:35:10 PM
It sounds like he will be back when he has had time to review his entire site.

He has been operating this service at his own considerable expense. Maybe he could ask for donations like amiga.org does to cover his costs. I'd support that if it meant keeping the site alive.
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Trev on December 16, 2005, 07:35:27 PM
Speaking of donations, what happens to the Amiga.org donation surplus each month? I'd like to think it's carried over to the following month, but it doesn't appear that way. That's the one little mystery that's kept me from donating. . . .
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: redfox on December 17, 2005, 02:07:19 AM
Over the years, I have found "The Big Book of Amiga Hardware" to be a very valuable resource.

I hope they will be back on the air soon.

---
redfox :-?
Title: Re: Amiga-Hardware.com Taken Down
Post by: Erol on December 17, 2005, 12:25:08 PM
well i'd offer to host the site if need be for free..  im sure its all a misunderstanding.