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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: Argo on October 28, 2005, 11:16:07 PM
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Hyperion Entertainment unveils dedicated site about the upcoming Amiga OS 4.0 for PowerPC CPU's.
Point your browser to http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz
Source: http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2669
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Wow. I have to say that is a really nice site and looks to be off to a good start. I like how there is something for the developer, current user, and past or returning user.
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And what about hardware?
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Very nice site.
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Its runs on all PPC processors according to the website, and its very easy to port to new PPC products, yet somehow there is currently no hardware for sale which runs the OS and the only official hardware has EOL parts on it.
-Tig
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Too bad, too. OS4 will never reach critical mass with the hardware it requires.
I would like to take OS4 for a test drive, especially since I'm completely disappointed with my Mac mini. This Mac has to be the slowest damn computer I've ever used.
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I would like to take OS4 for a test drive, especially since I'm completely disappointed with my Mac mini. This Mac has to be the slowest damn computer I've ever used.
Yet, its hardware is faster then any AmigaOne and its cheaper then an AmigaOne. And Apple is currently averaging over 1000 Mac Mini's sold per day, which is about how many AmigaOnes Eyetech has sold in the last 2 years. Why exactly again is OS4 not running on cheap mac hardware?? Not like Hyperion doesnt have a bunch of Macs around anyways.
-Tig
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@tigger
IBM alone produces tons of Power based hardware. Mostly servers and workstations running various Unix/Linux. Hyperion can (and probably have?)port OS4 to any Power based system they can get a hold of. They can even run it on Power Macs. They just can not support/sell it until it gets Official Amiga approval. On the other side when the A1 series is ready for a more powerfull Power CPU (and chipset) the support is already there.
links
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/intellistation/power/
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/openpower/?ca=opannc&met=link&me=W&PSite=ibmcomherous
http://www-132.ibm.com/content/home/store_IBMPublicUSA/en_US/IntelliStation_workstations.html
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Speaking of hardware, did anyone notice the PDA display (http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/images/stories/screens/pda2.jpg) graphic in the "The AmigaOS advantage" article.
I doubt Hyperion is going to sit idly by and let their project waste way. Not to mention the monitary incentive to recoupe the development costs. Not being a hardware company, means that they are probably going to have to search out third parties and poke, prod, light fires under the powers that be to get the deals made.
Then again, on the optomistic side, there maybe things in motion contingent on the offical release that will be set in motion when that happens.
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ths is encouraging
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@Tigger
I shouldn't blame the hardware for this. I'll say instead that MacOS X is the slowest OS I've ever used. For one thing, it takes two minutes to boot up, and the GUI responsiveness is shockingly bad.
I'm sure if AmigaOS was running on the mini, the performance would be quite good. Wishful thinking, of course.
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Nice I think it's a good start. The Amiga logo should use the old italic font though... They should also mention on the front page about the Ramdisk, that it's been there for way many years.
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It's a smart looking website. I'm intrigued by the language that is trying to attract OEMs, ports to new hardware, etc.. it seems to fly directly in the face of Amiga Inc's opinion on OS4.
I've just got 2 comments:
1. The "The AmigaOS advantage - your advantage" article is a good one, but it's buried in a pointless submenu.
2. It really needs its own domain name. I associate anything with .biz with spam.
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A couple of things:
1. OS4 is for Amiga hardware not Mac hardware and due to Apple's. Second, Eyetech make Amiga hardware not Hyperion.
2. Mac Mini is too slow is because they haven`t provided enough memory. 256MB is bare minimum, up grade it to 512M or even 1GB to best of Mac OS X.
3. Now that a web site is up, I hope Hyperion has a date in mind to finally release OS4...
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A couple of things:
1. OS4 is for Amiga hardware not Mac hardware and due to Apple's. Second, Eyetech make Amiga hardware not Hyperion.
2. Mac Mini is too slow is because they haven`t provided enough memory. 256MB is bare minimum, up grade it to 512M or even 1GB to best of Mac OS X.
3. Now that a web site is up, I hope Hyperion has a date in mind to finally release OS4...
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I agree with what most people have said so far; a very nice site, but it doesn't answer the most obvious questions of any end-user:
"Where and when can I buy it, how much is it, and what hardware does it run on?"
I thought this was pretty funny:
"13. It's cheap to run.
Because AmigaOS4.0 has such a small "hardware footprint" - that is to say that it runs extremely well on even very basic hardware - it is extremely cheap to run. [...] End users shouldn't feel left out either; every day you use AmigaOS4.0 you save money. The low power consumption of the hardware Amiga OS4.0 is designed to run on means you could save as much electricity as switching to energy saving light bulbs. AmigaOS4.0 is better for your wallet, and better for the environment too!"
Heh. No wonder the word "AmigaOne" can't be found anywhere on the site! One would have to use the currently allowed PPC hardware for decades if one thinks one is going to make up for its ridiculous initial price on the electricity bills! :)
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@pjhutch
1. OS4 is for Amiga hardware not Mac hardware and due to Apple's. Second, Eyetech make Amiga hardware not Hyperion.
You ARE being sarcastic now, right? No?
In case you didn't discover it during the last few years, then the new AOS4 website that this news item is all about should help you: The OS is for whatever hardware it's ported/adapted to, and for that to happen a hardware vendor needs to get a licence. There is no Amiga hardware in any meaningful sense of the word.
Buy a licence for selling Terons to AmigaOS users and Terons are "Amiga hardware".
Buy a licence for selling Macs to AmigaOS users and Macs are "Amiga hardware".
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Crash course in "Amiga hardware" for the newbie. (http://amigapop.8bit.co.uk/newamiga.jpg)
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well done! God exists, now sell Amys in Christmas in big Stores across the world with shown OS 4.0 (Media Markt and so on ...) and conquist the world again!
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I still refuse to buy ANY PPC based hardware. Port OS4 to Intel chips and I'll be happy to invest in the Amiga once again. Until then, forget it.
As for the website, I like it but they might wanna get someone to proof & edit it. Just skimming it I noticed some grammatical errors. Also, it would be nice if one could click on those images to get a blown up view. Otherwise, it's fairly polished and professional.
- Mike
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I like this new website. I think they have done a good job with the nostalgia part and they've shown lots of screenshots of Amiga OS4.
I liked the part about short bootup and shutdown times. Sure beats the heck out my networked Windows 2000 pc at work :-P
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redfox
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...boots is seconds...
...can boot from flashram...
sounds like it could boot from a qoob chip equipped Gamecube to me...
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Excellent website, I think. It's very detailed and makes a great sales pitch; the target audience is clear - current users, former users, users looking for a change, and OEMs - and the site caters well to all of them. It's nice to see the Amiga going on the attack again!
OEMs would be complete fools not to invest in OS4.
And yes, I agree that they should have used the old Italic font :-)
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Very nice looking website! I was pleasantly surprised.
If only Eyetech's and Amiga Inc's sites looked so good. :-D
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As for the fishing for OEMs part: No they do not try to convince anyone to buy AmigaOnes.
They are looking for people that have their own board or are developing one and need an OS for it. Hyperion will be very happy to adapt OS4 to any Hardware an OEM with have under it's arm.
Due to some stupid licensing problems the OS will not be called AmigaOS 4 on that targethardware anymore. More likely it will be called "The damn Software that powers our machine" OS, but that doesn't matter as it will still be the same OS.
Developments made for some OEMs might even find its way back to the "publik" AmigaOS4
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GREAT SITE! Hopefully this is a good sign that Hyperion is getting ready to reveal their fantastic product to the public. "When it's done" may finally be just around the corner.
However, there was one thing I was really disappointed in. In the "20 features" I thought they were missing one of Amiga's greatest features... AREXX. Perhaps this is because the future of AREXX is a little uncertain at the moment but it is still a VERY IMPORTANT feature of the OS, part of what makes the OS so great.
Also, I would like to see an AmigaOS tutorial section for newbies. There are a lot of great Amiga features that would not be obvious to the AmigaOS newbie such as hidden menus, keyboard shortcuts, keyboard mouse control, the Workbench Startup Drawer, screen dragging, and especially an "Overview of the Enigmatic Program names in the Prefs Drawer."
Sure there maynot be many AmigaOS4 newbies for a while but a know lots of people who may decide to "demo" AmigaOS by getting WinUAE of AmigaForever and the basics are going to the same.
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Very impressed with the site, nice and professional indeed :-)
Damn, I need to get some free time to play with OS4 again, it's not fair. I'm getting so out of the loop now it's silly.
@mpiva
Did you not read #7 - "Scripting" in the 20 features then?
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@ Karlos
Thanks, I missed that. I have to admit, I was in a rush so I only skimmed through it and did not read all 20 Features thouroughly (I've been using AmigaOS for over 20 yrs so I wasn't looking to be educated). I was looking for AREXX & must have glanced right by it. Ooops! Good to know it's there though. And it was interesting to find out that it's official that we're moving to Python (last I remembered hearing that was still up in the air) Not sure what I think about that; I'm not to familiar with using Python. I liked Rexx though. I just hope old programs with ARexx ports will be able to easily communicate with new programs with Python ports.
@ anyone
BTW, what ever happened to SHEEP? :inquisitive: Just a question... please don't start a flame war over this.)
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@Lemmink
As for the fishing for OEMs part: No they do not try to convince anyone to buy AmigaOnes.
They are looking for people that have their own board or are developing one and need an OS for it. Hyperion will be very happy to adapt OS4 to any Hardware an OEM with have under it's arm.
And why would anybody who allready has a working HW favour an obscure closed-source OS made by a tiny obscure company and controlled by ..... over readily available and sometimes even free solutions ?
Before you answer, there are Linuxes with smaller footprint better features and easier (complete) APIs then any Amiga(like)OS.
If Hyperion (or someone else) could offer a complete solution for any given problem, they might have a chance (like "give me an STB that can
do this and that and sent the 1st 1000 units to Wladiwostock on January 6....").
Due to some stupid licensing problems the OS will not be called AmigaOS 4 on that targethardware anymore. More likely it will be called "The damn Software that powers our machine" OS, but that doesn't matter as it will still be the same OS.
It's not just the name that was licenced, but also the IP behind the OS. It might be there isn't a single line of 3.x-code still in there, but thats not enough to get out of the contract.
Unless you insist that they would just use the comatose status of the IP-holder to ignore them.... but than why did OS4 got started in the 1st place :crazy: :-P :lol: :-o
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As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.
So you are wrong, as per usual.
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HyperionMP: With the all BS you've been spreading during years.. I'd rater wait until I see the *partner* announce this deal on their site..
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I see the usual curmudgeons have come out to play. Though that is an interesting piece of info from HyperionMP.
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eh Argo . . .thats life :-(
Since is no more possible to post as "anonimous" on ANN, they have to do something after all ;-)
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>As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.
What parts, the 68k JIT emu? The SNAP gfxsystem? Or the OpenGL ES implementation?
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ppc4me: My bet would be the Name.. :-D
Seriously (anyone, ideas?).. Why did Hyperion spend a Lot of effort to make the site Ibrowse-compatible instead of making it CSS-compatible, if their intend real is to *sell* their product to someone at real world? Real world has Firefox, Opera and Internet Explorer, real world clients don't use Ibrowse or Aweb..
Or would it be so, that os4-site was build for entirely different cause ... To offer some (vague, misleading and at least partially false) hope to existing OS4 user base of better future.
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@joannaK:
:roll:
The site works perfectly with Opera, firefox, netscape. Some small glitches with IE maybe, but viewable.
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Gee, I thought this was supposted to be a "Warm and Friendly community"
I fall into the old Amiga user catagory. I want a new one with OS4, but where? Also, needs to be affordable. Now that is where I see a problem. So, far the cost of he mobo has been way, way, way, way too much. But, here's hoping.
Dave
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@JoannaK
"Welcome to the official website of AmigaOS4.0. Here you will find information and resources relating to the latest release of the Operating System that introduced the world to multimedia and proves the fact that so much of the computing industry has forgotten - that computers can be fun."
That is the first paragraph on the website. The site is also geared toward getting informaton to the current AmigaOS 4.0 users and current Amiga users, as well as other parties. So, making the site viewable in Amiga browsers would be a nessecity.
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...boots is seconds...
...can boot from flashram...
sounds like it could boot from a qoob chip equipped Gamecube to me...
I've seen it boot from the memory card in a camera. with my own eyes! :-o
very impressive!
I love the idea of carrying your own AO4 on a thumb drive and plugging it in a friend's amiga. now THAT is the ultimate portability!
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As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.
That line makes me think of this line
"An entire legion of my best troops awaits them! Oh, I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive." - Palpatine
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@cecilia
Wery interesting.
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ppc4me: My bet would be the Name.
Don't play lottery then ;-)
Or would it be so, that os4-site was build for entirely different cause ... To offer some (vague, misleading and at least partially false) hope to existing OS4 user base of better future.
You got us there, Joanna. Yes, we went through the trouble of making the site IBrowse-compatible because we want to mislead Amiga users to think that there is a better future. Congrats for looking throught that charade :-D
Thinking that we made an AmigaOS site Amiga browser compatible because we wanted Amiga users to be able to read it is quite absurd.
On a related note, I am quite sure that you or someone else would have pointed out quite the opposite if the site was NOT IBrowse compatible. Then you would probably have said something like "they are only interested in OEM deals and give rat's ass about their existing userbase". I find this mildly amusing :roll:
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@Rogue
Great site...
And i agree with you...
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Thinking that we made an AmigaOS site Amiga browser compatible because we wanted Amiga users to be able to read it is quite absurd.
Thats the biggest problem that I see with you/Hyperion, you refuse to look out of the box that AmigaInc/Eyetech/Hyperion have built. Guess it's time to pop another bag of popcorn, this is going to be a long and funny winter.
Dammy
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OK Rogue,
1) Can OS 4 boot from a 1.875 MB of flashrom?
2) Could an analog joystick driver be used to simulate a mouse?
3) Could it boot from a 3" 1.5GB DVD and store "permanent" settings to a flashcard?
and finally - the real question
4) Have you already booted OS4 onto the Gamecube?
4a) If not, could you?
4b) If so, what's stopping you?
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ah . . and may i add a custom PCI card, to cook hot-dogs, without frying it?
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@lou
If you give Hyperion all the Gamecube specs, including all the graphics chipset details (don't forget, the ATI chipset on the Gamecube is NOTHING even slightly like a Radeon), and pay them to port it, i'm sure you'll see your Gamecube port ;-)
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Thats the biggest problem that I see with you/Hyperion, you refuse to look out of the box that AmigaInc/Eyetech/Hyperion have built. Guess it's time to pop another bag of popcorn, this is going to be a long and funny winter. Dammy
looks like someone can't appreciate sacasim.
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OK Rogue,
1) Can OS 4 boot from a 1.875 MB of flashrom?
yes
detailed answer (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=15807&forum=14#228066)
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Well, there's an SDL library (yes 3D routines) port for GC code already. There's an SD card adapter (that I am importing 50 of for the GC homebrew dev community) as well as an SD card read & write API for GC-Linux...so you could plug in a 2GB SD card into a Gamecube and boot OS4 from that as has been done by modifying UBOOT on the A1 to boot from USB.
So in theory, porting UBOOT to GC and writing it to the 2MB of flashram that comes with the qoob Pro chip could get you OS4 on Gamecube (with the right graphics driver ofcourse).
Infact I believe a 486MHz GC can outperform a 600MHz A1 do to the Cube's ultra low latency memory access and faster bus (162.5 Mhz). It also may have more cache than your typical G3...not sure. Not too mention better floating point performance.
Also a Gamecube can read DVD R/RW discs...even boot from them with that same qoob "mod" chip.
A vga cable can be hooked up to the DV-out display found on Gamecubes built before May 04.
The GC-Linux build comes with PS/2 drivers for PS/2 keyboard hooked up to a GC controller-to-ps2 adapters. Same could be done for a PS/2 mouse. The Gamecube has 4 controller ports so you could have a mouse, keyboard and 2 controllers no problem.
A Gamecube system capable of running OS 4 can be put together for 1/4 to 1/3 the price of an A1 system with relatively equal performance. Yes, this includes all the "addons" such as ps/2 adapters and mod chip.
@xeron
Why? Have they gotten paid to develop it? I would say they developed it and are now being paid by "pre-sales" and the so-called "licensing". So maybe if they said they had a version ready for the modded 'Cube market, they could get paid by selling THAT version. Mind you, what it would take to also have it run on an additional PPC platform is peanuts compare to the initial A1 development time.
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A couple of things:
1. OS4 is for Amiga hardware not Mac hardware and due to Apple's.
OS4 can run on all kinds of PPC hardware according to Hyperion's new website, why aren't they aiming it at hardware that is actually available??
Second, Eyetech make Amiga hardware not Hyperion.
Actually Eyetech doesnt make amiga computers, they sell rebadged terons, which I didnt comment about, Hyperion in the past did ports to the Macintosh of games from the PC, so they have Macs around they could get OS4 running on which is why I mentioned Macs and Hyperion together.
2. Mac Mini is too slow is because they haven`t provided enough memory. 256MB is bare minimum, up grade it to 512M or even 1GB to best of Mac OS X.
That may or may not be true, it has nothing to do with the issue. Right now there is no hardware available to run OS4, Apple sells more Mac Mini's in a day then Eyetech has ever sold AmigaOnes, since there is a OS4 hardware shortage, maybe they should port it to something people can actually buy.
-Tig
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> Why did Hyperion spend a Lot of effort to make the
>site Ibrowse-compatible instead of making it
>CSS-compatible, if their intend real is to *sell*
>their product to someone at real world? Real world
>has Firefox, Opera and Internet Explorer, real
>world clients don't use Ibrowse or Aweb..
How better to make a potential customer wary than by making a web site for an OS that the OS cannot view? Yea, sure, that's really a limitation of the web browsers and not the OS itself, but still, no user of AmigaOS has a good experience with CSS web sites...
Though I think we'd all hope that the OS4 web site would become CSS standardized very sortly after a CSS enabled browser becomes available for the OS. I didn't see anything that looked bad under Firefox anyway, CSS standard or not...
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> As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine
> has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.
Oh, I don't know, I can imagine some pretty big companies! :-P
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Poster: T_Bone Posted: 2005/10/31 16:09:58
> As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine
> has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.
Oh, I don't know, I can imagine some pretty big companies!
I imagined I was shopping at the #1 company in the fortune 500 today (oh wait I was at Walmat), and I had a telecon with #10 & #25 today and then went ang bought gas from #2, before stopping to buy groceries from #21, and then picked up some 2x4's from number #13, so why this belief that we can't imagine how big a company Ben?? I dealt with 6 of the top 25 today??
-Tig
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I believe his comment was meant for one specific small minded individual.
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HyperionMP: As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0.
I dunno. Some large companies have licensed AA or DE or WhatEver and that hasn't panned out too well so far for the Amiga as a platform.
DFergATL: Gee, I thought this was supposted to be a "Warm and Friendly community"
10+ years of lies and broken promises tends to wear down the most generous of communities. OS4 is kinda overdue, and most of us can't foot the bill to give it a test drive.
Rogue: Thinking that we made an AmigaOS site Amiga browser compatible because we wanted Amiga users to be able to read it is quite absurd.
What's more absurd is thinking about why IBrowse should be supported when HTML was invented to describe content. Amigans should have no trouble seeing a website in any browser.
Of course, it may look pig ugly. :-)
Lou: Can OS 4 boot from a 1.875 MB of flashrom?
Any computer can boot off a flash card if the BIOS suports it.
Oh, and must you hijak every damn thread on this website with a discussion of Gamecube or Revolution? Why not XBox 360 or PS3? They're not that much more expensive than Nintendo's offerings, you know.
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@Tigger,
I can understand your skepticism, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. So what if he over stated the size of the imagined company, I think you missed a very obvious (and important) question: WHICH parts of OS4 have been licensed?
- Mike
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I think you missed a very obvious (and important) question: WHICH parts of OS4 have been licensed?
I didnt miss any question. If it was a significant portion and Ben was competant he should have said something like, a major company has licensed the OS, or a major company has licensed the emulation layer, the HAL, .. etc, you get the idea. Instead Ben posted "As it stands a much larger company than you can imagine has already licensed parts of OS 4.0". Which means someone licensed something insignicant of the OS, which Ben and company either supplied the licensee with source code they will put on their hardware or did the port for them. An OS isnt something you really license part of, so Ben is telling us they are endrunning AI, or its an insignificant part, like when I license fonts for the heads up display for the Apache. Hyperion-Amiga Font, official font of Panasonic DVD players in Germany, just isnt really as big a story, but thats probably something like what we are seeing here.
-Tig
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@Waccoon
And must you go around trolling my posts?
How did I hijack this thread if others have mentioned platforms they'd like to see OS4 on?
Infact the OS 4 website insinuates almost any platform is possible.
So stay off of the bridges I cross.
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;-) Now this is the sort of news I keep hoping to see. Anything that hints that OS4 is alive and kicking is welcome to me.
:roll: We could do without some of the griping and nitpicking from the regulars, though....
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Poster: Quixote Posted: 2005/11/2 4:27:42
Now this is the sort of news I keep hoping to see. Anything that hints that OS4 is alive and kicking is welcome to me.
The question is just how much validity can one give such a statement coming from Hyperion. There maybe a glimmer of truth burried somewhere, but I wouldn't be very suprised to find out the majority of what they have said is spin to keep the faithful appeased.
My bet, if they have indeed sold some code, it was only code that had no connection to Amiga Inc's IP.
Dammy
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WHICH parts of OS4 have been licensed?
The contract may not allow this to be disclosed publically, and it might also prohibit saying who it was licensed to. We might be happy to get any vague hint/bragging at all.
But the hint does make for a lot of curiosity, saying that the company is bigger than we can imagine. People have already imagined Nintendo and Sony and IBM in various "someone should do this for me" threads. What other really big companies are left? And please don't tell me it's Microsoft!
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But the hint does make for a lot of curiosity
I couldn't disagree with you more. These types of hints can be safely ignored 100% of the time.
They mean nothing, they produce nothing, they have no impact on our lives in any way. I didn't even look at Hyperion's website.
I'm waiting for a reliable news source to announce a real product. When that day happens, I'll click away and review the thing.
Seriously I don't get what the remaining players get out of all of this...they aren't getting a revenue stream, so what...they like make believe or something?
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What it all boils down to is, what is the financial viability of Hyperion, Amiga Inc & EyeTech. From product sales, we can tell that they're not exactly loaded and set for life. But the fact that they're still around tells me they're making money somehow - quite possibly from ventures we are completely unware of.
This is of course a seperate issue of AmigaOS and it's success or failure.
- Mike
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Lou: Infact the OS 4 website insinuates almost any platform is possible.
Well, PPC platforms, at least. How much time and money it costs to do the porting is an issue, as well as hardware licensing. The embedded world doesn't follow the same marketting rules as the PC world.
Dammy: The question is just how much validity can one give such a statement coming from Hyperion. There maybe a glimmer of truth burried somewhere, but I wouldn't be very suprised to find out the majority of what they have said is spin to keep the faithful appeased.
Well, you have to give them some credit, as they are actually releasing a product. How often does that happen in the Amiga world?
As for the future of "parts" of OS4, I still say it is bleak. Why would a company license parts of OS4 when there's a glut of modern, embedded OSes out there tuned for multimedia, as well as lots of highly portable tools that are cross-platform with non-PPC processors? Developers these days are more interested in cross-platform support, now that there's been such an explosion of embedded hardware. Years ago, people thought Java was doomed to fail. Now, Java is a major force in the embedded world, despite its quirks.
They mean nothing, they produce nothing, they have no impact on our lives in any way. I didn't even look at Hyperion's website.
Well, they mean little to the Amiga community. The fact that they are alive is good, but so little information coming out makes it pretty obvious that existing Amiga owners are not part of the picture.
As it should be. I don't want an update to an obsolete design. I want a brand new system that just feels like the old system, but is completely new underneath. While I don't xompletely like Apple's direction with OS X, I must admit that using an existing OS and building on top of it was a brilliant idea, as opposed to trying to make a "new" OS 9.
Let's face it. Amigas are so old, that starting from scratch and using hardcore emulation to run old software would still be a major improvement over the classic line of machines in performance. Apple somehow managed to do it even though they never ceased manufacturing new Macs. Why Hyperion decided to rework OS 3.x and make it PPC native is beyond me, when they could have started with something far more competent, CPU independent, and familiar to modern software developers. It's not like the old Amiga programmers are ready to give up on their new jobs working on PCs and start re-inventing the past.
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been away for a bit.
yeah nice site, made me wanna use AmigaOS4
how? no available hardware...
cheap to run?
conclusions... promising OS, nice website, full of {bleep}.
One point, I dont know if anyone else has thought of this but is it possible the folks at Amiga are making you guys pay an arm and a leg for old hardware so they can fund the development, THEN to just go and release it for Generic PPC computers when its finished?
just a thought
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well its a nice page but i belive there is not anny point in reading it yet until we can actually get the OS. What buggs me is that they dont even mention how much it is suppose to cost when its out.
adonay :-D