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Title: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Release Mobile Edmark Titles
Post by: HMetal on June 17, 2005, 08:27:55 AM
June 15, 2005 - San Francisco, CA - Riverdeep and Amiga, Inc. have announced a development and marketing distribution agreement making it possible for several of the award winning Educational Edmark® titles to be created for the mobile market using AmigaAnywhere™ technology.

Click here to read the full article (https://www.amiga.com/news/index.php?art=13)
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Quixote on June 17, 2005, 09:19:37 AM
;-) Now this seems promising.  Anytime anyone even remotely connect to the Amiga scene does well, I'm happy.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Linchpin on June 17, 2005, 09:28:47 AM
Agreed...

:)
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Magic-Merl on June 17, 2005, 12:47:44 PM
I see Bill gets a mention here.  Is this good?

Don't wish to appear too negative.

This is positive news though and a commitment to port software.  Hopefully many more agreements across the entertainment sector will be announced.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: rayt on June 17, 2005, 02:08:27 PM
Who gives a **** about Amiga Anywhere..
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Linchpin on June 17, 2005, 02:24:11 PM
Not you maybe, but think about it.

Its the name. Amiga. The more places it is - the more chance OS4 has to succeed.

Easy.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: XDelusion on June 17, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
Good news for whoever, etc. I'm happy for them, but as for this Amiga Anywhere crap...

...well the Amiga logo does not make it Amiga, give us something we can test run, then "we'll" tell you if it's Amiga or not.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: weirdami on June 17, 2005, 02:49:42 PM
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the Amiga logo does not make it Amiga


If Commodore had put it out, there would be none of that sort of comment. Why is there if Amiga puts it out?
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Turambar on June 17, 2005, 03:29:31 PM
It seems to me that putting these titles on the U3 memory sticks would be perfect for kids to use on their own due to the more robust nature of the media (kids scratch cd's). All they need is brightly coloured moulded cases for the sticks and they'll be perfect.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Linchpin on June 17, 2005, 03:40:30 PM
The negativity of some people...

We know its not an Amiga. But its got the logo on it. And thats cool.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: System on June 17, 2005, 03:55:27 PM
Time will tell whether they can follow through, but this is the first announcement out of several that they've made recently which actually sounds like it might have any substance to it.  The whole memory stick announcement now makes sense if they're aiming at the children's market.  

Essentially, give kids a memory key loaded with educational games and they can plug the key in pretty much anywhere they find a USB port.  There is a very strong market in children's educational toys.

Cool.  Good idea.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: adolescent on June 17, 2005, 06:19:55 PM
@Wayne

I still can't get over the {bleep} in the About Amiga section.  If even a few of the statements were true then I'd chalk it up to just being PR hype.  But, I'm seriously thinking they, Amiga Inc., believe what they're writing.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: System on June 17, 2005, 06:32:53 PM
@adolescent

Press statements are what they are.  Intended to bolster confidence to those reading it.  While I vehemently disagree with everything in their "About Amiga" section, you should ask yourself "What should they say instead?"

"About Amiga Incorporated : In five years, we've done nothing except try to come out with a product that no one really wants despite dealing with the dot-com collapse and a total lack of money.  Like our competitor Genesi, we've screwed over our employees and several have filed bankruptcy, but we're really nice people.  We aren't Commodore and our stuff has nothing to do with an Amiga but hey, at least we're trying to do something..."

Somehow or another, the truthful version is a little less appealing.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: itix on June 17, 2005, 07:25:37 PM
@wayne

Heh... nice spot :-) At least they are not trying to market their "Amiga" to us anymore. Seems they are finally going the route they intended to.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: XDelusion on June 17, 2005, 10:47:16 PM
On second thought, I think M$ should by the rights to the Amiga brand name, apparently if they change the name of Windows to Amiga OS, you'll be happy because it is a high selling "finished" project with the name "Amiga" slapped on it...


...and yet the Amiga spirit is no where to be seen.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Lemmink on June 17, 2005, 11:31:29 PM
I`m a little astound that there are actually any positive comments about it. Over at amiga-news.de absolute everybody laughed it`s ass off about the announcement, just as about the USB stick thing. The only message about AInc. I would greet with standing ovations would be the announcement that they finally bite the dust.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Herewegoagain on June 18, 2005, 02:10:29 AM
@XDelusion and others

Why should Amiga (the company) be restricted to only producing things related to Amiga the Amiga computer/OS?  Look at the other companies out there.  Do they only produce one product?  And my God, look at Sony.  They make everything under the sun, and every last thing they make gets the name "SONY" branded on it... It's a "BRAND NAME" people.  That means that anything they wish to produce can have the Amiga brand stamped upon it.  Why should they be held to different standards than every other company in the world?  Just because you say so?  And if you think that Amiga the company is going to grow rich and the AmigaOS is going to have a market place on AmigaOS sales alone, you better get a reality check.

If I recall, Amiga the company actually started out producing joysticks and games for the Atari 2600.  Now what if I say that is the REAL Amiga, and anything else is just crap with the Amiga name slapped on it?


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I`m a little astound that there are actually any positive comments about it. Over at amiga-news.de absolute everybody laughed it`s ass off about the announcement, just as about the USB stick thing. The only message about AInc. I would greet with standing ovations would be the announcement that they finally bite the dust.


I'm actually astounded that there are so many narrow minds.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: guest3110 on June 18, 2005, 04:30:47 AM
If AmigaAnywhere generates even 10% of what has been expected by Amiga Inc., then there may be enough cash from general accounts to fund the new OS (beyond OS4).
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: guest3110 on June 18, 2005, 04:38:53 AM
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"About Amiga Incorporated : In five years, we've done nothing except try to come out with a product that no one really wants despite dealing with the dot-com collapse and a total lack of money. Like our competitor Genesi, we've screwed over our employees and several have filed bankruptcy, but we're really nice people. We aren't Commodore and our stuff has nothing to do with an Amiga but hey, at least we're trying to do something..."


I agree with about 90% of that, actually. I do think that some non-Amiga people could have perhaps handled things a little differently, but what's done is done.

The new partnership announcement seems to be a positive one; and if more like it come--more contracts like this being made--then things will begin turning around for the better.

I've been against this 'embedded' and 'wireless' ONLY direction for quite awhile, and Amiga Inc. knows exactly how I feel :-P , but even still I see their point about how there is money to be made there. I hope they are true to their word that such money will be put to an operating system of the desktop/server variety. It's the one thing I've been constantly hitting on with them.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: odin on June 18, 2005, 09:29:37 AM
Whoa...people still care what Bill and Co. are saying? Amazing...
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Damion on June 18, 2005, 09:37:29 AM
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If Commodore had put it out, there would be none of that sort of comment. Why is there if Amiga puts it out?


Well let's be realistic for a minute, "Amiga" was Commodore's name for a series of 80s/early 90s computer systems, their next line of systems were going to be named something else, and if Commodore had ever released a USB stick in 2005 we can pretty much assume it wouldn't have been labelled "Amiga"...more like Commodore xxxx.
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: Waccoon on June 19, 2005, 06:27:53 AM
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Magic-Merl:  Hopefully many more agreements across the entertainment sector will be announced.

I hope so.  Kid's software doesn't traditionally have the highest standards for multimedia.  :-)

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LinchpiN:  Its the name. Amiga. The more places it is - the more chance OS4 has to succeed.

What does OS4 running on an overpriced board resold by a company other than Amiga, and confirmed by said company to be a "hobby" computer, have to do with AA?

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XDelusion:  ...and yet the Amiga spirit is no where to be seen.

No offense, but if I hear that phrase one more time, I'm going to throw up.

The spirit of the Amiga consisted of the people who grew up with the machine.  Those people are now long gone.

Kid's edutainment and slot machines are not what the Amiga was about, let alone modern multimedia.  If Amiga invented the next Tivo or a wicked cool programming language, then I'd be impressed.

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herewegoagain:  Why should Amiga (the company) be restricted to only producing things related to Amiga the Amiga computer/OS?

Because with every press release they cash in on the original Amiga platform with statements like, "For almost two decades its award-winning software has been a mainstay for motion picture studios, multimedia creators, and digital entertainment enthusiasts around the world."

...despite the fact that the Toaster and the OS-unfriedly hackers were largely responsible for that.

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herewegoagain:  Why should they be held to different standards than every other company in the world?

True.  Impressive products are what build a reputation.  Too bad after more than five years Amiga Inc. doesn't have any.

Here's a question:  how much of AA is Intent, and how much is Amiga Inc.?
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: System on June 19, 2005, 03:27:04 PM
@odin,

Let me be very clear about something here.  Like others I have read and responded to recently, I have been diluted so much that my opinions cover both sides of the proverbial coin.

I really, honestly believe that both Amiga Inc and Genesi are twins in the concept of belonging on "f*ckedcompany.com", for pretty much the same reasons.  Both have;

- suffered the same problems,
- screwed employees in the same way,
- have products that they have already oversold their potential market

That being said, I see no problem with accepting that there is potential "good" in a press release by either company if it brings people what they want and garners them a bit of money.  People (their employees) now clearly know the dangers of working with (and believing in) either company so no potential employee can use excuses when they end up bankrupt.

For what it's worth, I don't believe in the "DE/AA" bullspit ideals, but...   If AI moving into the edutainment field can get them that sole, desperately needed foot in the door, then I'm ALL about that.  

At least IMHO it's a creative idea, unlike rehashing a comatose OS on antiquated, overpriced hardware that no one outside of this little community has any interest in. (and yes, that goes for both the A1 and Pegasos)

Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga, Inc. Announces Partnership with Riverdeep to Rele
Post by: badpacket on June 20, 2005, 04:58:28 AM
However, any 'success' begs the real question.  IF AI were to start making any profit, why would anyone think they would start tossing money to the OS4 project?  

Lets get real here. AI starts at some point to actually operate in the black, be able to pay salaries, and one thinks they'd send anything to a project that has no real hope of expanding?