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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => General Internet News => Topic started by: asian1 on March 18, 2005, 01:51:09 PM

Title: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: asian1 on March 18, 2005, 01:51:09 PM
"KMOS, Inc. announces the formal change of its corporate name and legal identity to Amiga, Inc."

Plus the new Amiga, Inc. website is now online.

New Amiga Inc Website (http://www.amiga.com)

New Amiga OS Website (http://os.amiga.com)

From the Press Release :
"March 16, 2005 - San Francisco, California - Today, KMOS, Inc. announced that it has completed all registrations with the State of Delaware formally changing its corporate identity to Amiga, Inc. Garry Hare, President and CEO of Amiga, Inc., said, "We are very pleased that we are bringing together the Amiga family of operating system products, the AmigaAnywhereâ„¢ enabling technologies, the amiga.com website and all intellectual property, content and applications under the Amiga brand. This change enables us to focus on rebuilding this famous brand. We plan to bring innovative technology and rich-media applications to most modern processors and all major operating systems.""

Read the rest here (https://www.amiga.com/news/index.php?art=2).
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: Delta on March 18, 2005, 03:13:28 PM
Seems like another "website for nothing" to me.  Is it me or there is no useful information whatsoever on their site?  

Did my beloved computer turned only into that "Amiga Anywhere" thing?

Let's hope it is just a temporary situation and that they will feed us with juicy news and comments :)
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: odin on March 18, 2005, 03:24:33 PM
I can only applaud that it's all in one layoutstyle now.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: ikir on March 18, 2005, 03:37:12 PM
I'm one of few users to think the layout is ok..... what i don't like is the contents... no OS4 features list, no screenshots.... no news in the opening page but only AmigaAnywhere.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: Delta on March 18, 2005, 04:08:58 PM
Exactly what I meant.  I was afraid to sound too rude.  ;)  

There is no mention of upcoming releases and god knows we all want that sort of information!
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. Web site
Post by: whabang on March 18, 2005, 06:01:54 PM
They're doing what I do:
I can't be arsed to get content to my site, so I just keep re-designing it! :-)
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. Web site
Post by: Argo on March 18, 2005, 06:29:09 PM
Did everyone forget? They don't own Amiga OS anymore. The sold it to a company called ITec, which then sold it to KMOS. KMOS is honoring the contacts set in place before the sale. Which means , KMOS owns the rights and IP which are under contract to Hyperion. Hyperion basically act as the owners in conjunction with KMOS til KMOS buys back their full rights, as I understand it. Simply put, Amiga, Inc. does not own Amiga OS. Their only concern is Amiga DE, Amiga Anywhere. Just like their investors want.

It's nice that the collected Amiga, Inc. sites now have a consistant look. Though it is just the look the AOS subsite had. I was expecting something new and interesting. At least it's consistant, big plus. I, too, had hopes for more and better content explaining what they have and what they are doing. Maybe that is to come.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. Web site
Post by: alx on March 18, 2005, 06:45:37 PM
@Argo

Quote
Did everyone forget? They don't own Amiga OS anymore.


Maybe you should read this (https://www.amiga.com/news/index.php?art=2) then :-P

IMHO the site's an improvement, but still a disappointment :-(
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. Web site
Post by: Argo on March 18, 2005, 08:53:45 PM
Doh! Thanks. I'll add that to the news announcement as it should be there.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. Web site
Post by: Elwood on March 19, 2005, 11:14:54 AM
They don't own AmigaOS 4.0 anymore. They can do an AmigaOS 5.0 if they want.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: Plaz on March 20, 2005, 05:20:38 AM
After looking at the web sites I can only say...

"Are you frickin' kidding me?"  :lol:

It's not even worthy of a news blurb. And bringing what together?

Quote
We are very pleased that we are bringing together the Amiga family of operating system products

Moving the layout and pictures around? Poorly written text content?
I could go on for an hour or two, but I'm moving on to something
more worthy of my time.

Plaz
(Being way more critical and cynical than normal)
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: System on March 20, 2005, 02:53:06 PM
With full respect to Ray et al, and understanding that the disappearance of amiga.com was meaningless, I simply can't see why amiga.com was taken offline for over half a month for those changes.  The site, in my opinion, looks worse than ever (but that's just my personal opinion).  I guess I was expecting more.  

Hopefully these pages are just a temporary stopgap until the REAL new ones can come online or something.

Wayne
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: dammy on March 20, 2005, 08:05:24 PM
Then again, who cares anymore about Amiga Inc?  If I were the Red Camp, I wouldn't give a rat's rearend about Amiga Inc as long as Hyperion was pushing forward with their OS.  So they only have 4.x series, it's a meaningless number series that can be stretched out to 4.*.*.*.1 to infinity.  

Now if Eyetech does co-own OS4 along with Hyperion, I'd be ready to slit my wrist.  Thankfully, I'm not in the Red Camp so sharp objects shouldn't be of concern.  :lol:

Dammy
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: SHADES on March 20, 2005, 08:49:52 PM
I think the news blurb pretty much sums up everything.
AI bought out ALL rights and interlectual property with regards to AMIGA. That includes OS and property and anything else related. Just because they get Hyperion under contract to develop the next version of the OS doesn't mean Hyperion own it. They are contract developers. AI could have got SUN or TAO or any number of software houses that can program to do the work on it, I guess because Hyperion had experience in the field, they seemd the most logical choice.

Don't get mistaken though, AI own the OS. Hyperion are under contract to make it for them unless there is something very different about the contract they signed.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: Plaz on March 21, 2005, 03:03:08 AM
No matter what imaginary camp you might think you're part of,
it's still sad. And any camp might start to wonder what
the newest beast might think of doing once it decides to start
twisting it's OS licenses' in new and interesting ways.

Plaz
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: AmiXDel on March 21, 2005, 08:23:51 AM
From what I understood is that Hyperion held some right to the OS, so that if Amiga should fail, Hyperion would then inherit full rights to the OS.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc. , New Web site
Post by: dammy on March 21, 2005, 11:11:37 AM
As stated over the years, that agreement would be voided in US Bankruptsy Courts.  You can not hide/transfer assets like that from the creditors.

Dammy
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: nyteschayde on March 21, 2005, 05:42:30 PM
@plaz

I agree, from a development site it's almost as if the site went backwards in design evolution. The only thing that is remotely modern about the site graphically is the shadows under the section links on the left.

The fonts are horribly serif'ed and it just looks poor overall. The only thing I can think of is that they designed it to work with IBrowse or AWeb or something of that sort. (Haven't tried btw)

Sigh... hope all is still well in the Amiga future. I just sincerely hope Hyperion gets AOS4 out sometime soon before it get's axed at the last minute and this self-sustaining community is forced to used the existing betas of AOS4 that roam around on A1 machines as the base for the next gen of Amigas.
Title: Re: New Amiga Inc Website
Post by: boing on March 23, 2005, 02:27:42 AM
>This change enables us to focus on rebuilding this famous brand.

How I loathe this marketroid talk.  "Brand"?  Is that all it is to him?  WTF?  This does not bode well. Mind you, he's not that far removed from the ilk who think Amiga is about an operating system.  The OS is less than half the vision.  Hardware ahead of it's time was the key.  The OS made it usable.


>Did everyone forget? They don't own Amiga OS anymore

Who do you mean by "They"?


What I want to know is what became of the German court's alleged decision that Gateway never actually bought the rights to the Amiga OS.


>The only thing I can think of is that they designed it to work with IBrowse or AWeb or something of that sort.

Ahem, that's a good thing.


>wouldn't give a rat's rearend about Amiga Inc as long as Hyperion was pushing forward with their OS

Amen.


>agreement would be voided in US Bankruptsy Courts.
>You can not hide/transfer assets like that from the creditors.

What if Hyperion was owed money by Amiga Inc? That would be fun.  Maybe.