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Title: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: System on November 27, 2004, 10:40:35 PM
From PPCNUX:
"A Non-Apple company uses this system architecture with PCI-Express for its new dual-G5 mainboard.

While the first product based on the IBM G5 Northbridge and NVIDIA Hypertransport Southbridge (originally meant for AMD64 CPUs) is an AdvancedTCA LINUXblade PPC20A, it could also be used for a most up to date desktop system since it implements all of today's neccessary and cutting edge features in just two chips:"



CPC925

    * 2x Elastic Interface for dual PPC970FX
    * 128Bit DDR400 memory interface
    * AGP8X
    * 16Bit Hypertransport

nForce4 (SLI)

    * 16Bit 1000MHz Hypertransport interface
    * 20 PCI-Express lanes, different configurations possible (e.g. 2 gfxcards)
    * Standard 32Bit 33MHz PCI bus with up to 6 slots
    * 10 USB 2.0 ports
    * RAIDable storage controllers
          o 2 channels of parallel ATA-133
          o 4 ports of Serial ATA 3Gb/s
    * AC'97 sound with up to 8 channels and dual S/PDIF output with AC3 or Stereo PCM up to 24Bit 96KHz
    * Gigabit Ethernet with CPU offloading engine

http://www.ppcnux.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4453 (http://www.ppcnux.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4453)
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: jn91 on November 27, 2004, 11:10:04 PM
Now here's something I'd be willing to pay for.

I don't mind paying a high price for a motherboard and paying for the operating system separately.

Boards like this more than deliver the goods.

I hope boards like this become popular with the linux crowd so they become commonly available as a desktop solution. Maybe this way, the people behind Amiga OSes will have reason to add support for them.
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: asian1 on November 27, 2004, 11:25:58 PM
http://www.ccpu.com/pages/page.html

Hi
This product is released by Continous Computing Corporation for Industrial / Telecommunication market.
The motherboard IS NOT for desktop / general computing application.
Is the price more expensive than Apple Dual G5?
Thank's.
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Hammer on November 28, 2004, 12:12:14 AM
Ask for a price quote.
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: SamuraiCrow on November 28, 2004, 01:46:17 AM
It would probably have to wait until AmigaOS 4.2 because dual processors aren't supported in 4.0 . :-(
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Panthro on November 28, 2004, 04:12:02 AM
sounds very cool to me :-o
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Dan on November 28, 2004, 09:13:30 AM
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Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Crumb on November 28, 2004, 01:42:22 PM
At last a decent PPC motherboard.
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Cass on November 28, 2004, 02:56:21 PM
The only impressive thing about it, is the PPC part? Because hi-tech mobos (new PCI standard, hi specs BUS/Memory/ports etc.) are all over the net.

But if it's amiga related it has to do with OS4.x? So someone has to pay the copyrights, and I don't think some "Non-Apple company", is willing to pay $$$ for running an OS that probably has never heard of.

Linux, AROS etc, maybe the only link of any interest... (admitting that YOU are the one willing to pay some money to buy the hw, and run some AOS flavour).
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Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Glaucus on November 28, 2004, 05:09:52 PM
Quote
It would probably have to wait until AmigaOS 4.2 because dual processors aren't supported in 4.0.
heh, and I doubt they ever will. However, I can't see why it couldn't work with just a single processor.

  - Mike
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: kgrach on November 28, 2004, 08:03:32 PM
I think one of the Frieden brothers has a dual PPC board.

Also if I am not mistaken the new AOS4.0 is now licensed separately on the new uA1's.

uA1's sold without the Amiga OS4.0 license are $160.00 dollars cheaper.

That allows Alan to sell uA1's to the linux crowd cheaper.

The Best  part of the story in case you missed it. The new IBM Northbridge chip allows people to make a powerful and realatively cheap POP boards.

Demand and the willinngness on the board manufacturer to supply details is all that it would take for Hyperion to make a port.

Remember demand for sales would have to be suficient to allow hyperion to make money on the port. Otherwise no port


 kgrach
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: whabang on November 29, 2004, 08:13:23 AM
But can it run AROS??? :-P
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: KimmoK on November 29, 2004, 02:46:26 PM
"Thanks to IBM's choice of Hypertransport as chip interconnect there is now a situation that lets PPC board manufacturers use cheap and modern southbridges from the PC world and together with IBM's G5 northbridge create a turnkey solution for most demanding desktop or workstation applications based on the PPC platform."

YUMMY YUMMY YUMMY!!!!

Even though this beast seems to run at 1/2 of the CPU bus speed when compared to PowerMac, it would be "OK" for a single CPU Mid-end AmigaOne / AmigaTwo.  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P  :-P
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: KimmoK on November 29, 2004, 02:50:56 PM
@Cass

Trying to be the king of the nay sayers???

"But if it's amiga related it has to do with OS4.x? So someone has to pay the copyrights, and I don't think some "Non-Apple company", is willing to pay $$$ for running an OS that probably has never heard of."

How do you explain Eyetech AmigaOne? They (Eyetech) have done exactly what you describe for the TeronMotherboard & Mai northbridge.

Why it would be impossible for someone else to do the same?

Why would it be impossible for Eyetech to order load of A1CX board with the Nforce4 + G5 + AOS licence?

Amiga fans would buy any amount of them overnight for $2000 (almost).  :-D
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: seer on November 29, 2004, 03:00:58 PM
Amiga fans would buy any amount of them overnight for $2000 (almost).

If that price includes OS4, RAM, HD, GFX card etc etc, sure...

At any rate, this looks like a great PPC mobo to run AmigaOS/MOS on.
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Dan on November 29, 2004, 03:52:23 PM
what cooling solutions is available for G5?
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: Hammer on November 29, 2004, 08:47:31 PM
The HW specification is quite competitive.

PS; NVIDIA MCP is also available for Transmeta’s X64 chip (another HTT enabled CPU).
Title: Re: IBM PPC970 CPU on NVidia nForce4 Mobo
Post by: KimmoK on November 30, 2004, 08:47:02 AM
@Dan
"what cooling solutions is available for G5?"

That blade card hints that PPC970FX can survive with very little cooling. Otherwise those blades do not fit in rack.

Perhaps they ran passively cooled @ 1Ghz???
Or @ 1.6Ghz if the rack itself has enormous fan arsenal ???

Surely not @ 2.4Ghz.  :-P