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Title: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics drivers
Post by: SilvrDrgn on July 09, 2004, 04:39:42 PM
One of the OS4 betatesters put this video of native P96 on his homepage.

It's not an official OS4 demonstration, just a user's machine.  Picture quality of the video is not great, but it gives an idea of the speed native P96 achieves.

Check it out -> http://crisot.free.fr/os4/os4.avi (http://crisot.free.fr/os4/os4.avi) (19.29 MB)
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: mikeymike on July 09, 2004, 04:46:07 PM
If you're on broadband, it's worth the 20MB download.  The responsiveness is impressive.

The video is of the demonstration being done on a CRT monitor, but it isn't so horrendous that you can't see what it is trying to demonstrate properly.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: BIG-IRON on July 09, 2004, 05:18:37 PM
Took me 35 seconds to dl and its worth it! very interesting.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: SilvrDrgn on July 09, 2004, 05:30:48 PM
I see the file extension is .AVI but WMP refuses to play it saying I don't have the proper decompression available.  Is this thing in DIVX or some other compression format?
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: xeron on July 09, 2004, 05:34:21 PM
@SilvrDrgn

I think its XviD. It plays fine in FroggerNG, and on OS4 native Moovid. It also plays in Windows Media Player here at work, but then I have both DivX and XviD codecs installed.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: redfox on July 09, 2004, 05:47:44 PM
The responsivenes is very impressive.   :-D

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redfox
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Jose on July 09, 2004, 06:52:04 PM
I'm not impressed but relived. With the much higher processing power it should be expected.

Anyway, would love to see it but I have dial up...
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: gregthecanuck on July 09, 2004, 07:37:13 PM
Looks pretty good...   :-)

Was this demo done with hard disk DMA enabled?
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: TheMagicM on July 09, 2004, 08:18:23 PM
bad a$$.  Thats all I can say.  Hopefully it brings out competition between the two systems.  Even though I'm more a MOS fan its still good to see something being done for this system.  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: System on July 09, 2004, 08:43:09 PM
Well, you use what you have the hardware for. It's as simple as that :)
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Floid on July 09, 2004, 09:09:01 PM
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If you're on broadband, it's worth the 20MB download. The responsiveness is impressive.


If you're on broadband, the site also proves fast enough to stream it (with mplayer) if you're only going to watch it once.  (Heads-up to anyone else with only 10MB free, uck!)

That's got to be one of the faster PDF renderings I've ever seen, though I admit I've been using some pretty weak hardware myself.  Does Apple do as well with Quartz Extreme?
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Elektro on July 09, 2004, 09:38:08 PM
very nice
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Argo on July 09, 2004, 10:37:22 PM
Wow! a vast improvement from the non-native. I'm looking forward to other improvements we'll see.

Anyone know what the specs on his A1 are?
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Dagon on July 09, 2004, 10:48:15 PM
YAM's MUI was 68k?!?
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Matt_H on July 09, 2004, 11:01:20 PM
@ Argo

I read somewhere else (AW.net, I think) that it was a 933MHz chip. Can't remember if it was a G3 or G4, though.

@ thread

Whee! That looks great! Way faster than my aged PC, and easily faster than my 68060 Amigas. Personally, I prefer nonsolid window movement, but this looks great regardless. :-D
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: amigakit on July 09, 2004, 11:04:48 PM
Exciting times are coming again! Once we have made the full transition to PowerPC and there are no legacy libraries kicking around in the system, the true performance of the G4 can be realised on the Amiga.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Cymric on July 09, 2004, 11:15:10 PM
As Argo already mentioned: a vast improvement over non-native. I remember the first video, and that was jerky to the point of being embarrassing. (It was jerky for good reasons, but nevertheless it was not something to proudly show off to someone.) This is in an entirely different category. Kudos to the programmers, your months of sweat, hard labour and blood were worth it.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: weirdami on July 10, 2004, 03:23:36 AM
I can't seem to watch it either. A standard mpeg version would be nice. My computer isn't powerful enough for avi's, and the WMP on the public computers nearby (windows 2000) don't recognize the file type. I'm gladdened by the reports I'm seeing in this thread, though. Sounds like it's going to be a brighter day for the chosen people. (Us. :-))
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Glaucus on July 10, 2004, 08:58:16 AM
It looks good. Can't really tell what's going on, but it looks impressive just the same. :-D Now all we need are some people to write some demos for this new system. I think we can get beyond spinning cubes with this.  :-)

  - Mike
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Zorro on July 10, 2004, 09:11:51 AM
The last thing to see now, is a dma enabled workbench that will show the speed that can reach the windows/directory content refresh (icons/files)...

After this we will have an almost complete look to the the real feeling of the finished GUI/OS speed... for now the things looks veeery promising...  :-D
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Akiko on July 10, 2004, 11:55:31 AM
Very impressive  :-D
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Rogue on July 10, 2004, 12:45:14 PM
Both YAM and MUI where PPC.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Rogue on July 10, 2004, 12:46:13 PM
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Personally, I prefer nonsolid window movement, but this looks great regardless.


Preferences/GUI can disabled solid resize and movement.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Warface on July 10, 2004, 01:17:35 PM
MPlayer, Frogger, and even the new MooVId plays it fine here. (It seems MorphOS is better for video playback than Windows? :-))

If I weren't using a system with similar speeds for far more than a year, I'd be impressed. But credit is due, and indeed a nice job. Hopefully the ordinary AmigaONE owners will have it soon.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Framiga on July 10, 2004, 02:04:01 PM
@weirdami 

download this

http://download.divx.com/divx/DivX511.exe

and install only the codec.

Bye

PS- or use FroggerNG WOS like me ;-)
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Calen on July 10, 2004, 02:32:42 PM
Looks very impressive, well done to all involved.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: mikeymike on July 10, 2004, 02:56:48 PM
I thought the latest DivX codecs contain spyware?  .

I use VLC (http://www.videolan.org/) (opensource media player for most operating systems).
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: DeQuevedo on July 10, 2004, 09:48:25 PM
Really fast

Congrats to the developers. I hope see it runnin on my 1200 PPC very soon :-D

@Rogue

Its just a recompilation of the currnt 68k version of P96 or its totally/partial new stuff?
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: that_punk_guy on July 10, 2004, 10:30:38 PM
The free version of DivX Pro is ad supported. The standard (non-Pro) codec linked above is clean.

VLC is indeed very nice.

As for the video itself, pretty good. Beats my PC with some operations...
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Rogue on July 10, 2004, 11:23:21 PM
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Its just a recompilation of the currnt 68k version of P96 or its totally/partial new stuff?


This is largely a recompilation, although large parts of P96 have originally been written in 68k Assembler. These have been ported back to C. Some stuff is new/improved.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: mikeymike on July 11, 2004, 09:56:50 AM
Was that build of OS4 likely to be without IDE DMA, out of interest?  If not, I guess it adds to the impressiveness of the graphics responsiveness :-)
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Magic-Merl on July 11, 2004, 10:10:00 AM
For me this was breathtaking.

It reminded me of the importance of the original graphics system which enabled the Amiga to get noticed originally.

Good work
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Rogue on July 11, 2004, 10:15:46 AM
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Was that build of OS4 likely to be without IDE DMA, out of interest?


To be honest, I dunno. I would guess it was using DMA, but I can't be sure.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: amigamad on July 11, 2004, 08:14:33 PM
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The free version of DivX Pro is ad supported. The standard (non-Pro) codec linked above is clean.


I used a spybot to remove the crap from it after i installed it .also i think the latest xvid can do divx.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: SilvrDrgn on July 11, 2004, 11:18:48 PM
That demo was pretty impressive speed wise.  Good enough for me.  :-)
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: philips on July 12, 2004, 03:57:56 PM
It is very fast indeed, but the video seems to be faked.

http://www.ann.lu/detail.cgi?category=forum&file=1089557440.msg
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: Rogue on July 12, 2004, 11:15:28 PM
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It is very fast indeed, but the video seems to be faked.


Posted by a guy that used an anonymizer to hide his identity...

No, the video is not faked. Just compare the speed of Quake at the end of the Video - it runs at normal speed.
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: KimmoK on July 13, 2004, 03:55:57 PM
Here is a better quality video: http://uniweb.free.fr/os4/os4morequal.avi
Title: Re: OS4 betatester demonstrating the native P96 graphics dri
Post by: aasmund on July 14, 2004, 04:32:51 PM
I just had to register in this forum as wel.
The last video is as fast as the other and it cant be fake.
Wel it can but, if you listen to the sounds when i type it`s acurate to the vodeo and it sounds 100% normal. He also types fast but not un-normal fast.