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Title: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: minator on May 17, 2004, 01:03:43 PM
I recently got hold of a Walker and I decided to see what I can find out about it.

The results of this can be found on my new Walker Pages.


Found Here (http://www.blachford.info/computer/walker/walker.html).  Theres a short history of what it is, pictures of the other versions in development, what's inside (with High-res images) and where it's been shown.

Enjoy...


Note:
If you have any additional info on the Walker please let me know.

Also, if anyone knows how to get it to boot properly I'd really like to know how it's done!
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Lemmink on May 17, 2004, 01:42:31 PM
You lucky {bleep}, that  one is still missing in my collection.
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Matt_H on May 17, 2004, 03:06:17 PM
A real shame. The Walker would have been a good machine. I never knew there was a PCMCIA slot on it before.

It also looks as if there's a slot for a keyboard ribbon, like the 1200...

Is there an Early Startup menu on the Walker? You might get it to boot manually, with no startup sequence.

I've heard that 4GB+ support was built into 3.2, but maybe it's not working properly. What size drive are you trying to use?
Title: Mind Walker not
Post by: weirdami on May 17, 2004, 03:24:07 PM
I've never heard it ever having been called the Mind Walker. That's some sort of Amiga web browser thing that I never heard of ever being finished. Who's been calling it Mind Walker?
Title: Re: Mind Walker not
Post by: nOw2 on May 17, 2004, 03:28:07 PM
Here's Mindwalker, the webbrowser:
http://v3.vapor.com/

No, I don't suppose it ever has been finished..
Title: Re: Walker
Post by: StevenJGore on May 17, 2004, 03:36:24 PM
An excellent site!

Would it be possible to get a 3.2 ROM image from the Walker for use in WinUAE?!!

Unfortunately in 1996, the Walker would have required a much better specification than that shown to have stood any chance of being successful. IMHO, Amiga fans would have bought it anyway, but it would have attracted few new users with it's outdated (by 1996) AGA chipset and relatively slow processor compared to what was available from the competition. Remember that by 1996 the PC was hugely popular and there was also the Playstation for games!

Steve.
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Lo on May 17, 2004, 05:44:21 PM
Whats the "S" in SDH0: for? SCSI?   I have never owned A1200 or walker.
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: CD32Freak on May 17, 2004, 05:53:30 PM
I think you could ask Amiga Walker related questions to MAZeT GmbH (http://www.mazet.de/), who are the original designers of the board :-D
Title: Re: Walker
Post by: bloodline on May 17, 2004, 06:21:16 PM
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Would it be possible to get a 3.2 ROM image from the Walker for use in WinUAE?!!


Normally I wouldn't condone such action. But This time I agree. I want an image also :-)
Title: Re: Walker
Post by: BloatedOtter on May 17, 2004, 08:46:46 PM
great, thanks for sharing! I always feel a bit sorry it wasn't put into production, maybe with slightly better specs, as that was an original idea which was faithful to the Amiga spirit imho. But anyway I doubt they would have had the funds to market it efficiently...
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Lo on May 17, 2004, 09:27:15 PM
I'd like to put a MicroA1 in that case, put some thin wood vennier(sp?) on the face at least and place it next to my Antique Radio. (Its similar in shape)  :-P (http://members.aol.com/djadamson3/phil70.jpg)
Title: Re: Walker
Post by: minator on May 17, 2004, 09:38:43 PM
OK, tried the bootmenu thing (had to look how to do it - been a long time!).

It... didn't work.

But Walker has a weird boot sequence anyway so I played around a bit and eventually it booted!

Seems it's unstable but after the first boot it seems ok and will reboot fine afterwards.

Looks like a fairly standard OS install, but there are some apps to try out.  I guess they were testing them but one says Cebit preview 1996.

Most seem to work if slowly.
Scala MM300 is there but timing seems a bit messed up.
PPaint locks the machine solid.  
Photogenics 1.2SE - requires a registration code.
Mania (Pinball?) causes a reboot.

This is useful as there is no other way to reboot it apart from the power switch (3 fingered salute does not work.)

Floppy tries to mount discs and fails everytime, only have OFS and PC discs to try though.
Tried to format a floppy but it failed as well.

CD-ROM appears to do nothing.
No idea how to manually mount it and would it read PC CDs?

About gives:
HWG Beta ROM
KS 43.1
WB 40.42
Copyrighted to ESCOM AG

Showconfig gives:
Kickstart 43.1
Exec 43.4
Disk 40.42
16 MB Fast
2 MB Chip


I'll write a full report for the website...
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Akiko on May 17, 2004, 10:38:56 PM
Maybe you have already stated somewhere, but i'd be interested to know exactly how you came into possession of this rare Amiga relic?
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: minator on May 18, 2004, 02:00:57 AM
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Maybe you have already stated somewhere, but i'd be interested to know exactly how you came into possession of this rare Amiga relic?


I used to work at a certain company called Thendic-France and in the basement we had one of these machines.  Well, the problems are not exactly unknown but the end result was the company was put into bankruptcy.

There was a big sale recently and everything was sold off.  I turned up and bid on the walker, and got it - cheap :-D

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Part of the reason was getting something very rare (I thought it was the only one but there's 2 apparantly).

The other reason was to look after it.  This thing does not have a normal computer casing, it is *very* fragile and if someone put it on eBay and put it in the post it'd be destroyed.

I thought I'd put some pictures on line but I got carried away, investigated it's entire story and ended up with 4 pages (and one or more to come now it's booted).

I thought there'd be some interest but I did not expect this:

Over 1000 visitors in 12 hours from Amiga* users, you took 1.5 GBytes (same rate as a slashdotting gave me last year!)


*actually 80% of you are are Windows users - at least I'm using an alternative OS!
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Ni72ous on May 18, 2004, 07:24:03 AM
I would also like to try the rom in UAE. :-D
Have you tried to use a rom image in UAE yet?
Does it work?
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: B00tDisk on May 18, 2004, 05:01:45 PM
Ugh.  Horrid little computer.  Glad it was stillborn.  Looked like a little dustbuster alone, and like a garbage can when mounted on it's tower.  (Yeah, yeah, I know.)
Title: Re: Walker
Post by: whabang on May 18, 2004, 06:52:35 PM
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Normally I wouldn't condone such action. But This time I agree. I want an image also

Agreed!
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: alex on May 18, 2004, 08:09:10 PM
How much to part with it?

I've been collecting rare computers for some time and this would be a crown jewel.

-Alex
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: the_leander on May 18, 2004, 11:30:39 PM
Excellent stuff, I guess I'm one of these odd people who actually thought that the case looked cool, if for no other reason then it wasn't imediately aparent that it was a computer.

Glad to hear that you've got it up and running, always a good sign  :-P

And yes I would gladly sell vital organs to get my hands on one of these things, or at the very least a motherboard :-D
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: minator on May 19, 2004, 12:58:51 AM
UPDATE
A "walker working" page has now gone up.
I've also added pics to the insides (back and inside upper casing) and front page (various).

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If I can get KS / WB 3.2 off it I will but I'll need help.
Can an Amiga HD be read in a PC?

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And yes I would gladly sell vital organs to get my hands on one of these things


I bet it would get a good price on eBay...
But I ain't selling :-P

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or at the very least a motherboard


There were apparantely a few of these, what happened to them though is anyone's guess...

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I guess I'm one of these odd people who actually thought that the case looked cool


Different - thats for sure, I think the colour is wrong though, it should be black.
I liked the fact they were willing to try out such a completely way out design.

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Still surprised at the interest, 1750 visitors so far!  I got OSNews'd earlier in the month and there weren't as many visitors (they did manage to take 7GB in one day though).
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: StevenJGore on May 19, 2004, 06:56:01 AM
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If I can get KS / WB 3.2 off it I will but I'll need help.


I'll help! :-) You just need to use transrom that comes with WinUAE (http://www.winuae.net/) to get an image file of the 3.2 ROM. Perhaps somebody else could explain the exact useage details of transrom? It's a while since I used it!

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Can an Amiga HD be read in a PC?

Yes it can, using WinUAE. Just plug the hard disk into the PC as you would with any other hard disk, but DON'T do anything to it in Windows. It will show in the PC's BIOS at startup but it won't show as a drive letter in Windows Explorer. When you load WinUAE, just select the "Add Hardrive" option on the 'Hard Drives' page, and choose the Amiga hard drive from the pull-down list.
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: ikir on May 19, 2004, 09:35:31 AM
Very interesting, thanks minator. Keep up the good work, photos are really appreciated!

Ps: i bet that there are a lot of Windows hits beacause amigans browse amiga websites from work (win2000 here) like me :-D
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: minator on May 19, 2004, 03:40:21 PM
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When you load WinUAE, just select the "Add Hardrive" option on the 'Hard Drives' page, and choose the Amiga hard drive from the pull-down list.


I downloaded a new version of WinUAE but this feature doesn't work on my system (Win98 First Edition - I only use it for Photoshop hence the old version...)

Can it be made to work in Win98?
Title: Re: New Amiga "Walker" pages on-line
Post by: Cryten on May 19, 2004, 04:02:59 PM
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Ps: i bet that there are a lot of Windows hits beacause amigans browse amiga websites from work (win2000 here) like me


The same goes for me, even though I'm not a frequent user of my Amiga anymore. Really a pity since it's quite packed considering that it's an Amiga  :-(  

Anyway, the Walker pages woke me up again. Thanks!  :-)