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Title: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Kent on May 01, 2004, 05:42:12 PM
Hyperion defaulted on the contract with GP software.  GP software are opening up the intellectual properties for sale again.  have now terminated the contract with Hyperion and the sources are back up for sale!

Read more about this information on the Opus 5 mailing list (http://lists.gpsoft.com.au/pipermail/dopus5/2004-April/).
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: mikeymike on May 01, 2004, 06:32:22 PM
Interesting.  I wonder if they'll buy it later?
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Kaminari on May 01, 2004, 06:48:21 PM
Unlikely.

Greg:
"Actually, they don't have any rights to develop Directory Opus nor use the name. They have still not honoured the Agreement we signed with them in good faith over 2 years ago. The contract has now been officially terminated for their non-compliance."

Jon:
"It was a straight-forward contract; they pay us money, they get Opus. They had two years, and didn't pay us the money they agreed to. "Too busy" isn't really a believable excuse for this :)"
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: dammy on May 01, 2004, 07:04:49 PM
Wonder how much it cost for porting rights?

Dammy
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Brian Hoskins on May 01, 2004, 07:07:44 PM
DirectoryOpus 5.82 MagellenII carries some very nice features which completely transforms the use of Workbench.

If Hyperion are no longer going to aquire the source for Dopus with a view to integrating it's features into Workbench then they're going to need to incorporate much of those features themselves.  Basically they're going to need to do work which has already been done in Dopus.

It'll be interesting to see what Hyperion do with further releases of the desktop Amiga Operating System, if there are to be any further releases.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: mikeymike on May 01, 2004, 08:44:38 PM
What agreement was signed two years ago?
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: System on May 01, 2004, 11:32:31 PM
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=43749

That one.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Argo on May 02, 2004, 05:11:52 AM
I assume there was a time table or deadlines in the contract.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Coder on May 02, 2004, 09:24:01 AM
This is one of those programs that are needed.

Coder
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Acill on May 02, 2004, 02:03:42 PM
It would be nice if us Peg users can get Genesi to buy/licence the source and have MorphOS get a built of Dopus. eh. On a more serious note it would be easy to port it back to AmigaOS then and we would all have use of it.

Edited by Argo:: Borderline Trolling, Corrected Spelling
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: System on May 02, 2004, 02:53:07 PM
Acill - wouldn't it be more fun if Ambient just got the same functionality? :)

Nobody else ever needed a DOpus license or the original source code to write listers or add scripting capability.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Argo on May 02, 2004, 09:37:30 PM
Please don't Troll!

And for God's sake use a dictionary (http://www.dictionary.com).

Two things I'd like to see built in to almost any software; a spell checker and grammer corrector.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Argo on May 02, 2004, 09:46:30 PM
@Coder
Why? I've never used it. What funtionality did it offer that is so valued?
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: cecilia on May 02, 2004, 10:00:57 PM
even with the PNG icon issue, I use Magellian on my peg RIGHT NOW. the listers (with names) work just fine.
I can unlha files and read text files, move files, etc, in fact most of what I can do on my real amiga. I just don't use it to look at icons (well, not PNG icons). it's not a big problem.
I just use Magellian on it's own screen - NOT as a Wb replacement.

anyone can do that until such time as it gets developed to work with the new icons.
what's the problem?
And I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a "company" to buy the source. Just like a bounty was set up to port Mozilla to amiga, maybe we can do something similar for Magellian.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: alex on May 02, 2004, 10:21:54 PM
DOPUS is one of those programs that if you start it up and start using it casually, you don't see the amazing and necessary capabilities, but when you start learing how to create custom command icons, scripts, net features like using it as a transfer station to move files across the net from one computer to the next using your Amiga as the conductor in-between, it just becomes to obvious why you cannot live without it.

I for one don't care who owns it so long as it makes it for AOS4 or MOS.

Does anyone know what they are looking to get for the license?

-Alex
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: ncafferkey on May 02, 2004, 11:26:48 PM
Quote
grammer corrector

 :-)
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Targhan on May 03, 2004, 12:20:46 AM
First, a comment on the topic...

If MorphOS users want to see a bump in compatability, and you don't already own Magellen, let your money do the talking.  This isn't FUD or a joke.  If you already own a copy of MagellenII, and are willing to pay for some quick patch or another--let GPSoft know about it. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting on Genesi to step in for this one, since as Neko said Ambient is planned to have both listers and scripting capabilities.

About Argo's spelling comments...

Anyone using AmigaOS 3.x or MorphOS, can find a copy of GoldED with the Joyce plugin.  Next, use MUI prefs to adjust the external text-editor.  This will allow one to use GoldED by pressing the "E" button found in the lower right corner of the text-input window of a web page.  Setting it up like this will allow one to post in forums with spell-checking!  I would, of coarse, suggest to use the latest version of GoldED (AIX). :-)
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: tonyw on May 03, 2004, 08:50:56 AM
@Argo:

"Two things I'd like to see built in to almost any software; a spell checker and grammer corrector."

What the hell is a "grammer"?????

tony
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: mikeymike on May 03, 2004, 11:51:12 AM
Quote
What the hell is a "grammer"?????

Like Kelsey Grammer! :-)
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Quixote on May 03, 2004, 01:32:03 PM
TonyW tweaked:
Quote
What the hell is a "grammer"?

;-) She married Gramper, of course....
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: TheMagicM on May 03, 2004, 04:11:22 PM
I never liked DOpus and its workbench integration.. Sure did like DiskMaster (still use it!)
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Matt_H on May 03, 2004, 05:37:12 PM
I'm a DOpus4 fan, myself. It's a shame development on it seems to have stalled...
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Quixote on May 04, 2004, 05:07:01 AM
Currently on my A4000, I use Dopus Magellan II in Workbench replacement mode, and couldn't be happier with it.  Whenever I fire up my A3000 or A2000, I am reminded just how much I've come to take Dopus for granted.

Hopefully, KMOS or Hyperion will decide to include much of Dopus' functionality, if not Dopus itself.
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: Chunder on May 04, 2004, 09:16:07 AM
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Poster: Coder  Posted: 2004/5/2 9:24:01

This is one of those programs that are needed.

Coder


...or more accurately, "This is one of those programs that are needed if the equivalent functionality is not already provided.

Hyperion have probably discovered that it is cheaper and easier to implement this stuff themselves - probably using Dockies, or something (since that appears to the the flavour of the month... erm... year, whatever!)
Title: Re: Opus Magellan Source for Sale
Post by: JoannaK on May 04, 2004, 02:19:34 PM
Chunder: Well-- IMHO it's even simpler than that.. They didn't have money for payments, cause their own product is way late.