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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: AmiDelf on March 27, 2004, 11:03:34 PM
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I can inform you, that there is several updates on my website.
First, I want to thank all of you wich have been supportive to AmigaWorld.org. I will try to establish a better contact with different Amiga websites arround the globe, to go tougether and show others that our amigaworld is a strong community.
So I've updated my website, with new layout and look. I have a nice and friendly interview with a female Amiga/Pegasos user, wich is pretty rare these days also.
AmigaWorld.org will also release old Amitopia articles this week and new ones. We have new names helping me out, both from Amiga and MorphOS war.
You can say that, AmigaWorld.org is right in the middle of the big, big wall between AmigaOS4 and MorphOS users. We care about you both and so should everyone out there also.
If we as a community want publicity, creation and motivation. We need to stand out, and just accept each interests. We could tougether build a developer page for example, for all of us. Both AmigaOS4 and MorphOS.
This community is so small, that it actually depends on you and we've been here thru R.I.P dessert and more. I want to show, either if it is KMOS or Genesi. That we all share the same vision. To go forward. Talk tougether, and get along.
I hope that you will visit and use AmigaWorld.org as a information base, and not as a competitor. It's written by me, wich have been a Amiga user since 1988. It will also now have lot's of different articles, with different writers also.
Do not "Join the Club" only. But join the Amiga/Pegasos poeple. Please return. Even if its hard,...
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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Thnx for the kind words on your webiste about Amiga.org :-)
Kees
Edit by Kees- Let me add that i completely agree with you about this stupid split in the community.
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No problem. We are a fair magazine on-line. With this sort of comments, we might see a change. Thats our goal.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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@Amidelf
I hope you can take some constructive criticism.
Your site is nice and you say that you want to unite the community. All well and good until you read the bit about amigaworld.net
To tell you the truth that does not reflect too good on yourself and looks unprofessional. It certainly looks out of place.
A person who would like to see unification would overlook personal grudges and would only concentrate on the positive.
I hope you get my meaning. :-)
[EDIT] My comments no longer apply. Amidelf made a good move and removed the offending item.
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AmigaWorld.org is different, and I want it to be so.
We are a consumer service. If this community is going to be friends again, banning is NOT the way to deal with it.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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I am sorry to say this, but your articles is heavily biased towards Genesi... This does not look very professional, and neither helps with uniting amigaos/morphos community..
Let's get the Amiga spirit back. Atleast Genesi have done a really, really great job with that. MorphOS is gathering a community and I feel a bit that the good old days is returning thanks to Genesi.
I truly find this bull aswell.. I am sorry to say it, but Genesi is the ones who ripped the community apart in first place, and have done nothing to make friends with Amiga side.. I hope this change in future though..
I have personally never seen anyone getting banned from amigaworld.net, for making constructive posts about morphos.. I must say i have not been a member of that site for longer than a 8 months or so, but i have never seen such a thing happen during the time i was a member there..
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We should all go for what we have today. MorphOS is out, and its running on PPC hardware. AmigaOS4 is not out. If that was the case, then the whole agenda would be different.
We should support what its out now,.. and I would love to see AmigaOS4 out. Just that it isn't and Genesi have done a great job.
I have more believes in KMOS than Amiga Inc to be honest, .. what comes out of it all. That will be interesting. The ends of all lies?
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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It`s just not a good enough reason to motivate people to switch platform/os JUST because its out before os4, thats not a good enough reason.
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:crazy:
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You have something to say? ;-)
Ok, wrong choice of words, there should be more reasons to support mOS just because its out before OS4.
I`ve seen screenshots of it, seen the specs, read about it, heard feedback from users....
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I dont believe there should be unity! There should be a fair and competitive split. These are seperate products in there own right, and they should stay that way.
AmigaOS and MorphOS are two seperate products and should stay that way! You cant make two Waring counties to be friends, its even harder to make them stay friends.
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@restore2003
Actually my comment wasn't aimed at you. It is aimed at the original poster ;-).
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@restore:
If you had take choice between AmigaOS 3.x and MorphOS 1.x, would you choose AmigaOS? If you bought Peg in late 2002 you had a chance to run "AmigaOS++" for almost 1.5 years now. I've been using MorphOS 2 years now - considerable advantage if you run AmigaOS software.
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OS4 looks nice too but I can't find any reason to wait... Matter of personal taste maybe.
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:lol:
We love you too Michal
:kiss:
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True, competition could bring price drops and realistic pricing.
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Eyyyyy... the banner look great.
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You can´t go around spreading crap about other sites and claim you want all to unite, unless you want to force solutions upon people that is, would that be the right way you think, come on... let people choose sides if they want to, sometimes you need two sides, how fun would a football match be with just one team ;-)
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So.. Ermm.. Basicly you're saying; :let's all be friends and play nice.. except for the $ucker$ at amigaworld.net ?
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In my opinion you are far to colored (blue) to play that "let's all be friends" game.
Boring site, but the interview with Cecilia was good though.
Don't like your remarks about AmigaWorld.net, it's an AMIGA site and if MOS people have been banned there's probably a good reason. Maybe the moderators don't wan't it to end up as useless as ANN?
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The comment, is what the comment is. Nothing else than it is.
What I want with it that AmigaWorld.net changes its policy and dosen't ban people because they have seriouse facts about MorphOS. And I am not talking about trolls.
There have also been several bad forum censorships wich shows that even if this is a Forum website, you don't have the freedom to say what you want.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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I for one agree with Amidelf. I was a big supporter of Amiga since the start back in 1985. I've owned at least one of every model and stuck with my A3000 for a long time. MOS is a nice OS and the Peg is what the AMiga SHOULD hav evolved into IMHO. When OS4 comes out, if ever we will see where it goes, but with it being solf off every few years and the Amiga name with it "curse" I have growen tired of it all. Pegasos is growing and I think it will get to be big one day very soon.
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( edit - Michal has edited his site so I no longer need to post the amigaworld.net side of events )
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It's all in the archive if people want to read it.
But I think its best to do it in another way for now, as I think it was a bit rude, but I felt I wanted to kick some sense into AmigaWorld.net, because there is none and thats sad.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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Whatever you say Michal. I suggest you find other things to kick because you aren't going to get any change out of me with that aggressive and rude attitude.
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@ Davep
Since you are here to protect ur website, i'm sure you don't mind me asking you if you would be so nice to edit some information on aw.net about AO in the 'about us' part of your website.
Thank you
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Kees
You will need to talk to DaveyD about that, I don't have editor rights on it. My opinion on that probably aligns with yours on the bit I think you don't like.
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Hold on AmiDelf - the few times I have been modded on Amigaworld.net is when I have gone off on one about the FUD and Bile from certain individuals who are predeominantly Blue, which throws your argument out the window.
Admit it - your desperate to drum up traffic, which is why you went on a hijacking of adding ppl to your MSN list. You are bias as well inspite of what you say. Produce some editorial that I find worth my while reading and I will visit your site - but these attacks, and FUD, simply because you dont have the ability to compete with the Big 3 is quite simply pathetic.
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well .. I asked you now ..
I'm sure you can relay the question for me .. if its not to much trouble.
Kees
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I was a bit anti Genesi and the whole thing. Yes, I have to admit that.
A bit? you was attacking everything that did not have custom chips and a fancy AMIGA name badge, now look who is the "emulamer" :-o
Well, I hope that these words clear things up.
Yeah, cleared them up indeed. now if i understand correctly we must all reunite and attack AW.net? :lol: (you have a fantastic way with words).
Good luck with your peg though.
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Kees
Sure, but to be certain of the bits you would like edited, could you send us a mail at DaveP@amigaworld.net and Ill talk to DaveyD on IRC.
@Bobson
The majority of moderation I have had to do of late has been to moderate people for making slanderous statements about Genesi, slagging off MorphOS and going overboard trying to start a flamewar with anti-MorphOS statements including locking one guy out of his account for persistent trolling about morphos. But of course that does not match up with the AmiDelf agenda so lets ignore it right...
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No offence Michal, but you manage to piss off just about everyone with your inane ramblings and your desire to ram your own preferences down everyone's throat.
This is going to sound harsh, but I think I speak for many people on #amiga.org when I say, I'm sick of your little fantasy world bleating, and your constant need to start arguments with those that don't agree with your view.
Like we've said many times, everyone is happy you got a Peg and that you enjoy using it, that's what the Amiga is about, but spending your time trying to tell everyone else they are wrong, is just going to annoy people.
So rather than just singling out AW.net, which is an easy target, you might want to consider where else your ramblings aren't appreciated.
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Ditto to what Uncharted Said :-D
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Amen to that Uncharted :-)
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About adding people to MSN. Well, that has nothing to do with promoting and trying to increase AmigaWorld.org visits.
I don't earn any money for keeping my website alive. It's done by my own will and with my resources. Soon, later this week. We will launch something new. Out of my pocket and no one elses.
There will allways be criticism, when someone goes new ways.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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you cant have to many visiters cos you always try to nick readers from other sites.
anyway whys it always news when you redesigne or update yer site for the hundredth time?
Aaargh! Some things just bug me and thats one of em. :pissed:
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I was usin opera browser and I kept hittin post but nothin happened.
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Just curious is your site really created on amigas?
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anyone else have problems with opera an double posts?
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I don't have any problems with double post at all with Ibrowse, Aweb or Voyager at all.
The reason for me changing the style, is well, I am an Amiga user, so I like to change. I kinda change my desktop often. Hehe :) I love to have a nice desktop, but cannot be satisfied with one, for more than a monnth or so.
And offcourse, there is no reason for posting any news, if nothing is happening :) is it?
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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And here you can see my visits. I don't really count on boosting its visiting, but I hope you read it.
Statistikk for AmigaWorld.org (http://amigaworld.org/statistikk/)
Regards,
Michal
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Michal, the site looks great.. Keep up the good work!
-Alex
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And here you can see my visits. I don't really count on boosting its visiting, but I hope you read it. Statistikk for AmigaWorld.org
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I take it back man :-o
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the only problem with the "Statistikk's" is that the page count for my interview should be [color=006699]way[/color] higher!!!
Am i not much more fascinating than arguing about who is being baned?
come on, now, admit it!
I AM scintillating!!!
:roflmao:
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Off to read your interview right this very minute :-D
Steve
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I don't know why we keep talking about trolls anymore.
The arguments don't ever end, and arguing about arguing is just enough to make someone pull their hair out of their head.
Well, I will throw in my useless comments. I go to AmigaWorld.Net sometimes, and I slammed them a lot when they opened up. They split the community, no doubt about it.
However, they have been a reality for a long time, and furthermore, they have proven to have a lot of exclusives, and I have reason to go there sometimes and read a story or two. Kudos for a useful site.
Now, amiga.org is still great too.
but AmigaWorld.org....GAWWW I hate that site. I have regretted every trip to that site. It is clearly a 'personality' site, with the webmaster's personality being the biggest draw to that site, but it doesn't appeal to me...I mean, the constant rambling on about taking another poll or petition and getting blinkity blank...Adobe to port photoshop, or whatever other thing that isn't going to happen.....ugh
ok, I get 2 cents for that review.
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MarkTime
The community was split way before amigaworld.net became popular, in fact amigaworld.net becoming popular is the symptom, not the cause.
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@DaveP
Well, it wasn't literally split into Amiga.org and Amigaworld.net...and even if we've always had multiple websites, this one sure felt different...and it was different, in its inception and marketing in those early days.
of course, there were feelings precipitating the formal split into a new website, but even if you don't feel it was the cause, it was also not the solution.
nevertheless, we are quibbling over words, and besides, past is past. I tend to think that we are all getting closer to being in the same boat again.
as time goes on, amigaworld.net is simply another community portal, rather than a splinter group.
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Well, it wasn't literally split into Amiga.org and Amigaworld.net...and even if we've always had multiple websites, this one sure felt different...and it was different, in its inception and marketing in those early days.
No idea what you mean here.
of course, there were feelings precipitating the formal split into a new website, but even if you don't feel it was the cause, it was also not the solution.
Depends on the problem you were seeking a solution to.
nevertheless, we are quibbling over words, and besides, past is past. I tend to think that we are all getting closer to being in the same boat again.
Maybe.
as time goes on, amigaworld.net is simply another community portal, rather than a splinter group.
Yep.
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Well, it wasn't literally split into Amiga.org and Amigaworld.net...and even if we've always had multiple websites, this one sure felt different...and it was different, in its inception and marketing in those early days.No idea what you mean here.
AmigaWorld.Net is a website.
Amiga.Org is a website.
They are not the same website.
One was formed later.
You said the community was already split. Along ideological lines, perhaps...but not literally split, in the sense that most everyone was hanging out at amiga.org. Later the split was a bit more defined with one group at amigaworld.net and another at amiga.org
Yes, even I had an account on both sites, and still do....but thats quibbling over details...but thats exactly what you are going to do, so you win.
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fonzie?
Eyyyyyyyy... wasn't he like a 30 year old guy hanging out with teenie girls? :lol:
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@Darth
Youre just jealous ;)
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You said the community was already split. Along ideological lines, perhaps...but not literally split, in the sense that most everyone was hanging out at amiga.org. Later the split was a bit more defined with one group at amigaworld.net and another at amiga.org
I think that is actually quite untrue, most of the people on amigaworld.net also go elsewhere - one website hardly serves everyones needs - including the need to argue, troll, belittle, scream at competitors, annoy people etc or the need to be left alone to discuss the common interests of a significant subgroup. As time goes on the audience, focus, marketing and policy all all the web portals will change in one way or another.
Yes, even I had an account on both sites, and still do....but thats quibbling over details...but thats exactly what you are going to do, so you win.
Thats a bit unnecessary - that last remark - don't you think? If it was just details I wouldn't have engaged what you said.
Dave.