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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga.org site announcements => Topic started by: System on February 24, 2004, 02:23:11 PM
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Amiga.org, thanks to Dalamar, is now officially part of the SETI (Search for Extra Terrestrial Intelligence) effort. While there is no Amiga version of the client yet, we're hoping that our team will both spark interest in the project, and possibly even lead to the development of client versions for the various Amiga compatibles.
If -- like most of us -- you have a "spare PC", Linux box, or Macintosh compatible lying about, please consider joining "Team Amiga.org SETI@Home".
Click here for the AO Team Page (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_181273.html)
Generic SETI Home page (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/index.html) where you can read all about it.
Download the SETI Home client (http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/download.html)
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Hi ...why don't you just join the existing SETI team named Amiga? There are over 80 members...
Don't create a split :)
Team: Amiga
Results returned: 89,358
Total CPU time: 116.24 yrs
Avg. CPU time: 11:24:12
Results per day: 120
Last SETI@home update: 2/21/2004 5:21:59 AM
CPUs: 36 @ 978 MHz
Total processing power: 35.23 GHZ
Speed: 5.42 Gflops
User rank: 1 of 88 (98.864%)
Team rank: unranked in All Teams
The webpage is here:
Amiga SETI (http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/fcgi-bin/fcgi?cmd=team_lookup&name=Amiga)
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Frankly? Because we had apparently zero idea that the other team existed. You REALLY ought to advertise more.
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Yes, all ACTIVE Amiga teams should merge. It's sort of pointless to hope that we can have any effect on the lack of an Amiga client unless these groups merge. I count over 20 groups that can be found by typing in the term Amiga in the search field at the top of the (alphabetical) team list pages on the SETI@Home site.
(http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/team_list.html)
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There is a "typo":
we began planning the transition to the Web in mid 199
199? a.c. or d.c? ;-)
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Honestly speaking, I feel no impetus to join a generic "Amiga" team whose members I usually don't know and built-in politics that I don't know whether I support, whereas I very much support a team of Amiga.org members banning together for the same thing.
Kind of like bowling. I have no desire to join a "league". I don't know the people in a league, but if my friends asked me to join their "team" then I would gladly do so.
Wayne
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Not a typo, a "text field truncation". Apparently Dalamar simply cut and pasted from the About Amiga.org page.
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Yeah, the text was truncated. I'll fix it. :-(
I just wanted to make a team for this group. It's not a competitive thing, just a friendly group. I also didn't want to link to a company. This is a club, not a company. SETI@Home does make a distinction when you create the group. :-)
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Maybe you want a little bit of friendly competition with the existing Amiga SETI Team?
HammerD
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Not at all. Why does everything in the Amiga community end up having to choose sides and competing? There's no point in it.
Speaking semi-OT, I personally don't agree with the exclusionary ideal of the current "Amiga" team. Amiga.org is the place for AmigaOS *and* compatible operating systems to include AmigaOnes running Linux, AROS, WinUAE, and even MorphOS. We don't exist to solely support Amiga Inc as your team's description implies.
If you want to change the core description of your team to be a little less exclusionary, I'd be happy to talk with Dalamar about merging.
Wayne
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I don't see a linux RPM. Are there any? Preferably for X11 and not console?
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"If you want to change the core description of your team to be a little less exclusionary, I'd be happy to talk with Dalamar about merging."
The group HammerD is in (and me also) was formed at least 2-3 years ago, I think. This was a little before most of the problems emerged at AI. I don't know where the guy who formed the group (aMIGA dUDE) comes down on all that has happend since then, but I think the description predates much of the squabbling.
It might be better if we were all under one umbrella, however. If it would make it more palitable to folks like WH, a desciption that was broader or more generic would be okay with me (if it would allow more people to become active). Perhaps this is one place where the red, blue and black camps can agree (i.e. the need for an Amiga client for this ultracool scientific endeavor:)
@Red
I could've sworn I saw a PPC linux version in among all the i386 linux & unix versions. Go here:
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/unix.html
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@redrumloa
You install the console version for "UNIX" like systems and there is an Xwindows app that monitors progress for you. The client itself is a shell app. It's faster than the GUI version anyway. :-) They have binary versions for almost all linux, FreeBSD, Solaris, etc. I personally use the Linux, Wintel, and Solaris versions right now. It runs at the lowest priority so it wont interfere too much with higher level apps.
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Frankly? Because we had apparently zero idea that the other team existed. You REALLY ought to advertise more.
Thank you for your comments.
But advertise all time gets on people nevers.
SETI@home (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44109)
SETI@home securty update (3.08) (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=44213)
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I don't see a linux RPM. Are there any? Preferably for X11 and not console?
There an simple answer to this question. Securty, people where sending back spoof reports that had completed an block of data. Now I am not saying this is not happening now. It just an lot harder to do.
But if there was RPM then there would be an lot easyer to make an client for Amiga platform.
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The group HammerD is in (and me also) was formed at least 2-3 years ago, I think. This was a little before most of the problems emerged at AI. I don't know where the guy who formed the group (aMIGA dUDE) comes down on all that has happend since then, but I think the description predates much of the squabbling.
Correct, I have no problem with changing the group description. But this isn't correct forum for discustion on this group description. The groups mailing list is http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/AmiSetiAtHome (http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/AmiSetiAtHome)
If my memory serves me right the group was formed during days of Escom.
The group needs an good web site but I am rubbish at that sort thing.
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If anyone want to talk to me directly, the best way is with Skype. And my user name is amiga_dude
http://www.skype.com (http://www.skype.com)
Now I can only use this at work, so I might not be able to answer always. Until Telewest installs my broadband connection at home.
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Not at all. Why does everything in the Amiga community end up having to choose sides and competing? There's no point in it.
Gosh some very wise words. I rembered when started the group and that I was attacked when I mentioned about it. A few of the RC5 effort members got very upset about it. They got all up set about the fact that I’ll asked people to join my team and help in SETI@home. I never mentioned not taking part in RC5 effort; I just posted news that you could be a part of Amiga effort for SETI@home.
My view is simple, it your computer and you use it as you like. It not for me to tell you how to use your own computer.
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well, i've joined :-)
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This is freaky! At current speed it would take 27 hours for a single block! :-o
I'm not saying that my Celeron 2.4 GHz is top-of-the-line, but it should at least be on par with an old P3 800 MHz... :-?
Gotta be some setting.
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I've got an Athlon XP 2800 with 512 mb of DDR400 ram and it still appears to take about 4 hours to do one block.
Wayne
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Hello!
I'm interested in porting SETI client on amiga (classic one). Would it be possible to have a such in the near future, what do they say?
I have some experience in optimizing code for different 68k's (mainly 68060), so you can rely on me when helping official SETI team porting client.
For classic amiga hard asm optimizing of innerloops is absolutely necessary here, because all 68ks around are very, very slow for such a task. Even Pentium100 spends days and days calculating ONE chunk of data, God knows what will happen on amiga...
Please anwser to lvd#dgap,mipt,ru ...
Bye...
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@Wayne
I Switched to the text-client instead. Cut down time to about 7 hours for a unit. Even then, it seems that the client never used more than four and halv hour of CPU time.
Windows is wierd! :-)
@lordv
Isn't a 060@66 actually faster than a P100? Sure seems much faster to me... (it sure as hell is faster than the old 120 MHz 486 I once had to put up with!)
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What we need are 68K (classic Amiga and Amithlon) and PPC (Blizzard, Cyberstorn, OS 4 and MorphOS) ports, and ideally, native OS 4 and MorphOS ports later on.
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JoNty
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@whabang
Formally P100 is faster. Both 060 and pentium have two pipelines, can execute 2 instructions per cycle. Of course lack of registers in pentium makes it some slower, but not too much...