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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Announcements and Press Releases => Topic started by: Kent on February 17, 2004, 03:48:08 AM
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New Screenshot showing the New Icon Set for OS4 is now available. OS4 Icons Designed by: Martin "Mason" Merz. Thanks to Hans-Joerg Frieden for the Screenshot.
As gathered from Hans-Joerg, this is not the final set of icons. This is only a glimpse of the work in progress.
You can find this screen shot at AmigaWorld.net (http://amigaworld.net/modules/features/index.php?op=r&cat_id=6&rev_id=47)
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feels very flat ;-( , but yes i used to like theese alot (glow icons) and i hope i will again :-) ..
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It sure doesn, but so do most "default" OS's icon-sets
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So "oldish", maybe they're too proud to include PowerIcons into OS4 since Elena works on MOS/Pegasos? ;)
No troll, just an impression... :)
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Simply Power icons ins't integrated in OS4. But maybe it will be included in Contrib drawer.
Anyway 256 icons aren't much different from png 24bit icons. For our eyes there isn't difference.
This is only a beta-default theme, everyone can make their own, or convert png to the new icons format.
Check the last screenshot of OS4, the fist one have a png icons converted to glow icons (up, the workbench...i don't, remember) and is the same looking as the original.
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I have to agree they look a bit dated,im sure if the workbench was spuced up a little bit they might not look so bland.I hope to be at Newcastle this coming weekend so i can make a better judgement of Os4
and of course sample some Brown Ale
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what if i like the boing/wrench/gfx card "mini" icons but not the blue filing cabinets?
solution suggestion: layered icons where filetypes (executables, folders) systemwide can be set to particular "master" icons which only need to have one instance of each in memory and then the icon's descriptor icon itself which is slapped on top. executable icons such as prefs programs that totally replace the standard executable icon will need a flag, unless major and minor icons can be stored side by side within an icon. that way if one doesnt exist the system uses a standard one
e.g. image files can be gifs/jpegs/bmp etc etc
major icon: (none: standard image type)
minor icon: "gif" "jpg" "bmp" descriptor
or
major icon: pre-rendered preview
minor icon: (none: let filetype decide)
a folder can have
major icon : (none: standard folder)
minor icon : (none)
or
major icon : (none: standard folder)
minor icon : small "picture" icon because its a folder that i intend to keep only pictures in
basically i'm seeking some compromise between windows, where all the folders look the same and one can change it in one place, and the miggy where everything can be different but it's a major pain to change every folder on the drive and an even bigger mega pain when one wants to change all the folders that have different detail to the normal folder!
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I like.
Though I'm sure the first thing I'd lose is the styling of the icon labels :-)
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I don`t like these new icons at all. Looks very flat, boring and outdated [even worse than Os3.9 ocon set!] Style is not the same on all icons.
Sorry Mason, but I believe you can do it much better!
:(
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Anyway 256 icons aren't much different from png 24bit icons. For our eyes there isn't difference.
The main difference between 256 colour and PNG icons is Alpha Channel, not the number of colors. The difference between a 256 colour one and a PNG can be minimal, but it can be like two planets apart. Depends on the icons. Alpha Channel is mostly used to provide antialias to the edges, or for providing shadows or transparency. It's rare when the number of colours comes to play, but given that PNG icons are usually larger, 256 colour ones soon loose the battle.
However, I liked Mason's older icons better. Many give the impression that there is something lacking with their edges.
EDIT
Never forget, 256 unique colors are only 16x16 pixels. :-)
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Hey at this point.... I think the icons look OK....
I just want OS 4.0 to come out .... RSN....
I find myself using the two new PCs, that I built in the last week, more and more.. and my Amiga less and less...
Someone please SLAP ME.......
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[color=990000]SLAP[/color][/b]
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Hmm, I'm sure iv'e been using icons like this for at least 8years- i'd really hoped they'd come up with something new ( although glow icons are alright,just wanted something new and exciting out of a new OS).
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Anyway 256 icons aren't much different from png 24bit icons. For our eyes there isn't difference.
I do hope you're kidding. Take a look at these two images. Download and run PowerIcons for just this test.
Alpha Blending on:
(http://home.swbell.net/stronic/alpha-test-1.png)
256 Color:
(http://home.swbell.net/stronic/alpha-test-2.png)
You may or may not see it. If you have AGA, you won't. If you have an RTG, you definately will. The alpha blending will mesh to whatever the backdrop is where as the 256 color image will just be from black to white. They should look identical on a white background with alpha blending. If you need to, go over to a friends computer who has alpha blending capabilities (even Opera or the latest Mozilla will show you). The difference is huge, and you can easily see the difference without needing someone to point it out.
Try this, turn off anti-alaising for fonts in any graphics package. The anti-alaising is a form of alpha blending. You should see a difference there as well.
:pint:
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maybe they're too proud to include PowerIcons into OS4 since Elena works on MOS/Pegasos
Maybe i have to admit that powericons are a lot nicer and modern looking. :-)
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No i'm not joking. The only difference is the alpha channel. As i've said have you cecked the leopad icon of the lastes screenshots, it seems a png.
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No i'm not joking. The only difference is the alpha channel. As i've said have you cecked the leopad icon of the lastes screenshots, it seems a png.
I'm not sure about you, but my eyes can see more than 256 colours. I think you ought to take off those 3D glasses you were handed at the cinema :-)
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These are new? I mean, they're nice looking, but this is not the first time I've seen them, or at least something very similar to them...
:-?
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They're tweaked methinks. But they look good.
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Stupid icons. Mongo Want OS4 NOW!
(sigh.) Any day now any day now.
(Sitting here watching the plasic craze on the old A4000)
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Looks nice. At this point I really don't care what icons come with it. I just can't wait to get my itchy, sweaty hands on the durn OS.
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@ mikeymike
No. How many pixel there is in a medium icon (60x50 for example)? For sure not 16,8 milions.
256 colors for an icon is a lot, the only difference is the alpha channel.... for the third time: See the leopard icon from the lastest screenshots. It was a png icons converted to Glow Icons. :-D
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Example (and I'm not saying they were the first, I know they weren't), WinXP has 24-bit icons now rather than 256. The icons do look better. XP also now allows humungous-size icons, like AmigaOS has since the dawn of time. Are you telling me it wouldn't notice on any large icon at all either?
And yes, some images can be scaled down to 256 colours without noticable loss of quality. Anyone who does sensible web design knows this.
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And yes, some images can be scaled down to 256 colours without noticable loss of quality. Anyone who does sensible web design knows this.
And some don't, and dither comes to play. And some are awful even with dither.
Wonder how different some posts here were if those OS4 icons were 24 bit. I bet that "256 colors are enough for everyone" would vanish in the haze... :-)
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@Warface
For sure i'm not as you described. In my opinion 256colors is enough (at least for now), OS4.x will have 24-32bit icons in the future. But i think it isn't essential.
I already said because i think so.
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For sure i'm not as you described. In my opinion 256colors is enough (at least for now), OS4.x will have 24-32bit icons in the future. But i think it isn't essential.
Well, I like the original 4 color icons as well. Not to mention MagicWB(8), FantasticWB(16), NewIcons(256), etc.
So X "colors is enough" is a very relative statement. All modern system sports 24 bit + 8 bit alpha. It's always easier to support an older system with a more advanced system, than in reverse order.
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I Like this icons! :-)
I mean an OS must have icons with serious look.
Best wishes!
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@TallAmigan
Consider yourself slapped!. "WHAPP!" Best regards...Art