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Title: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: AmigaMac on January 06, 2004, 11:11:00 PM
Seattle (January 6, 2004) - Amiga Inc. and Cloanto are delighted to announce that Personal Paint 7.1 will be available on the upcoming AmigaOS 4.0 operating system.

Check it out at http://os.amiga.com/corporate/010604-cloanto.shtml (http://os.amiga.com/corporate/010604-cloanto.shtml).

The Personal Paint series of 2D graphics and animations
applications has been a mainstay of the application base for
the Amiga platform ever since its introduction in 1992 and it
is also a star attraction of the Cloanto Amiga Forever package.
As Cloanto considers a new version of the product for AmigaOS
4.0, it has decided to show its commitment to the Amiga
platform and community by making the source code of the current
version available to Amiga Inc., allowing them to create a
PowerPC native version for the upcoming AmigaOS 4.0 product.
The created binaries will be owned by Cloanto but will be made
available for free download from the Amiga and Cloanto web
sites.

Cloanto and Amiga are also in talks concerning a new version of
Amiga Forever, as well as a special version of Amiga Forever
for AmigaOS 4.0, which aims to provide chipset-level Classic
Amiga compatibility integrated with the new generation Amiga
operating system and hardware.

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Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: zee4 on January 06, 2004, 11:30:16 PM
Sounds good to me- of couse I'll still get ImageFX for the true-colour stuff :)

Seriously, I think there's a market for software like this- for instance, GIF anims for web developers. Good PNG support would be great for game developers.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: KennyR on January 06, 2004, 11:30:19 PM
Now I fully expect many of the moaners on ANN who said PPaint was an obsolete 80s tool will have a mysterious change of heart.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: ksk on January 06, 2004, 11:32:36 PM
I found other interesting stuff as well:
"Cloanto and Amiga are also in talks concerning a new version of Amiga Forever, as well as a special version of Amiga Forever for AmigaOS 4.0, which aims to provide chipset-level Classic Amiga compatibility integrated with the new generation Amiga operating system and hardware."

The "final burial" of A1 to A1200 bridge card? ;-)
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: zee4 on January 06, 2004, 11:33:26 PM
Sounds good to me- of couse I'll still get ImageFX for the true-colour stuff :)

Seriously, I think there's a market for software like this- for instance, GIF anims for web developers. Good PNG support would be great for game developers.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: amigamad on January 06, 2004, 11:36:10 PM
Looks like cloanto have beem very busy what with os4 and morphos versions ill buy an os4 version when released. :-)
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: zee4 on January 06, 2004, 11:41:05 PM
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Now I fully expect many of the moaners on ANN...


ANN tends to have a lot of those :)

OT:  I just checked it yesterday and they're off on the latest BBRV "scandel". Jaza, just do a search for "Viscorp, "Bill Buck", carl, jason"  and save yourself some time typing.

Seriouly though, the more software the better. :)
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: KennyR on January 06, 2004, 11:51:05 PM
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"Cloanto and Amiga are also in talks concerning a new version of Amiga Forever, as well as a special version of Amiga Forever for AmigaOS 4.0, which aims to provide chipset-level Classic Amiga compatibility integrated with the new generation Amiga operating system and hardware."


Well, good luck to 'em, but I think they're seriously underestimating the practical difficulties of doing this. But we shall see.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: zee4 on January 06, 2004, 11:57:27 PM
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I think they're seriously underestimating the practical difficulties of doing this.


I guess it depends on how integrated thay want to get. AmigaForever seems to already have a solution with AmigaExplorer for sharing files.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: lempkee on January 07, 2004, 12:05:06 AM
yeah starts to make sense all of this now , they had to post it as MOS news first to prevent trolls from going bananaz..., and then announce the amiga version AFTER ..

good job and thank god for the small flamewars..
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: AmigaSource on January 07, 2004, 12:46:42 AM
Amigamad I know this has NOTHING to do with your post but

  1- Who's that "Beautiful" woman in your avatar?
  2- Where can I get the whole picture?
  3- Is she single? ;-)
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: Damion on January 07, 2004, 01:49:41 AM
What I found kinda interesting was this part:

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As Cloanto considers a new version of the product for AmigaOS
4.0, it has decided to show its commitment to the Amiga
platform and community by making the source code of the current
version available to Amiga Inc., allowing them to create a
PowerPC native version for the upcoming AmigaOS 4.0 product.


Are Fleecy and HMetal going to do the porting??
(I'm seriously asking BTW). If not, who will they
hire to get the job done? Hyperion maybe?
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: Jose on January 07, 2004, 02:17:50 AM
@AmigaSource

*Me was thinking the same thing...
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: HMetal on January 07, 2004, 03:25:47 AM
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Are Fleecy and HMetal going to do the porting?? (I'm seriously asking BTW). If not, who will they hire to get the job done? Hyperion maybe?


Having been a software developer for more than 14 years now (mostly C/C++), and having seen projects through from concept to release, sure I could do it, but I doubt I'll be working on this port.  I've got enough work on my plate.

I doubt Fleecy will port any of it either.   I'm not sure of his experience in actual coding, though I know he has done a bit of VP (AmigaDE/Anywhere) coding.

There are other personnel working for Amiga, Inc in various capacities.  No, I am not at liberty to discuss who and how.

As for Hyperion, it's possible and they could do it but I haven't heard anything to support that notion.  Don't you think Hyperion's guys are busy enough with AmigaOS 4.0? :-)
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: XDelusion on January 07, 2004, 03:49:29 AM
If they want to integrate backwards comptability with old Amiga software, I think one thing they out to think about is adding new features to the File info, for example, if you have an ADF file, and you click on it, it will know to launch up an (invisble) session of UAE, which will auto load into it's own window, I.E. you click on a ADF of Shadow Of The Beast 3, and it loads. But then there are compatability issues to think about, and so you should then be able to right click on the ADF file to goto its info, and set the UAE parameters from with there, close it, and launch and all is well...

 Of course there would have to be a standard default so you don't have to do this every time. Something like a stock Amiga 500 with 1Mb chip RAM or something.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: Herewegoagain on January 07, 2004, 04:09:05 AM
Well, it's good news, anyway.  Even if it's "just" a port.  I hope they do some enhancements to it though to make it more of a useful modern tool.  Of course, sometimes even the simplest of tools is all you need to create something really quick.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: redfox on January 07, 2004, 04:10:18 AM
:-D  Very good news.

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redfox
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: Damion on January 07, 2004, 09:01:47 AM
@HMetal

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Having been a software developer for more than 14 years now (mostly C/C++), and having seen projects through from concept to release, sure I could do it, but I doubt I'll be working on this port. I've got enough work on my plate.

I doubt Fleecy will port any of it either. I'm not sure of his experience in actual coding, though I know he has done a bit of VP (AmigaDE/Anywhere) coding.

There are other personnel working for Amiga, Inc in various capacities. No, I am not at liberty to discuss who and how.

As for Hyperion, it's possible and they could do it but I haven't heard anything to support that notion. Don't you think Hyperion's guys are busy enough with AmigaOS 4.0?:-)


Well good luck and congrats on getting the deal
arranged. PPaint was one of the only apps I still
used on my old 1200.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: ikir on January 07, 2004, 12:13:52 PM
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Well good luck and congrats on getting the deal
arranged. PPaint was one of the only apps I still
used on my old 1200.

Agree! Thanks A inc. Personal Paint is a good program, as i've say some days before when i read the MorphOS port news, i was hoping in a OS4 port...... great it is true!

I'm very exited about it, and also the chipset emulataion is a great news!
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: Calen on January 07, 2004, 01:40:41 PM
Really good news, cheers.  :-)
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: vortexau on January 07, 2004, 04:28:54 PM
Good News! I still "floppy" some graghics back to the A2000, to work on in ImageFX, in TVPaint, or in PPaint. I wonder how Screen Resolutions (in PPaint) will be handled? . . . . Maybe just in Window sizing?

Once ImageFX & TVPaint are ALSO running on OS4 it will be so much easier.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: mdwh2 on January 08, 2004, 01:10:41 AM
"If they want to integrate backwards comptability with old Amiga software, I think one thing they out to think about is adding new features to the File info"

If you want to pass information from the icon to UAE (or any application), isn't this what tooltypes are for?
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: kgrach on January 08, 2004, 07:13:47 AM
ImageFX, Cringe winge groan

What Kermit needs to do is rewrite the CRAP!!!
So it is coded properly.
I purchased a new copy at Amiwest 2003, Installed onto a CLEAN 3.9 install. Nothing but 3.9
Bingo NONFUNCTIONING 3.9 OS.
I have purchased EVERY version of imageFX all with the same results worked with the current version of the OS maybe! Would not work in conjunction with other programs installed. New version of OS tits up wait for new version of IMAGEFX. I give up no program is worth this hassle.

BTW I found the problem that kept OS 3.9 from booting. ImageFX loaded a new bezel.gadget
replaced it with one from 3.9 all was well.
Still don't know why it KO'd Warp 3D
Don't care broke CD.

Reinstalled OS with the vow to never ever try to install that garbage again.
Title: Re: Personal Paint 7.1 for AmigaOS 4.0
Post by: kgrach on January 08, 2004, 07:19:16 AM
Actually I personally never really liked Personal paint. I thought it never held a candle to TV paint. Which I had purchased first and later purchased PPaint. But PPaint never really handled graphic cards well.