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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: samo79 on November 13, 2003, 02:57:41 PM
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Sign the petition for Electonics Arts, we ask for a new version of Deluxe Paint for AmigaOne/OS4.
Sign Petition here (http://www.petitiononline.com/dpaint/) ...
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Well, I somehow doubt that will ever happen.
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Ok, im warning you, take what i say with a grain of salt!
This is stupid! Stupid STUPID!
EA are never going to do this. And lets say that for some stupid reason they wanted to get back into the Amiga Market, do you think it would be with DPaint? And do you think we would want them to do it with DPaint?
Sorry, but it seems like a silly idea. If the petition was to "Release the source code as open source for DPaint" then i'd sign it and be "all for it". But to try and get THEM to port an old application with no market is insane.
I dont mean to be rude, but i can tell why anyone would think why they would port it. They're not going to.
Why would we want them to port it when, in the forum, bloodline showed us a screen shot of UberPaint under AROS and its open source. The whole conversation about the petition should have stop there! We have an open source DPaint program! Isnt that enough?
Sorry for my yelling and stuff... it just seems silly... Ohh and i've had a few now :)
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hehehehe :-D :-D :-P
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I agree with Rooney.
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I know this problem, but the petition is not mine, I have just to report this news
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We need an Automatic Petition Generator (APG). Maybe running on a Pegasos server running OpenBSD, with a database of all software companies who have ever been profitable, have seen an Amiga in an old movie or TV show, or have made something of note for Linux. This could save much wear and tear on public forum bandwidth and harrowing news item posting episodes could be avoided forever! ...The URL to the APG could be linked with a Petition of the Week/Weak banner.*
* only mildly humorous. sorry. fresh coffee tanker is making its way up the lake to solve the problem shortly.
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DPaint for A1/OS4 in 5 easy steps.
1. Persuade 30-40 million of your friends to buy an AmigaOne (still a way behind the 52 million PS2's sold, but thats ok).
2. Donate a few million $ to Hyperion so that they can hire more coders and finish OS4.
3. With the money you made from the sales of the 40 million A1's (at AInc's $50 cut for each one that should make about 2 billion dollars), purchase EA.
4. Sack all the management who don't seem to understand that DPaint for Amiga is where the real money lies (forget Medal of Honor and Harry Potter games for PS2 and XBox), then retrain EA's in-house development teams so that they know AmigaOS inside out.
5. Cut back on the games development side of things. Start a new EA division which converts old apps from a decade ago. And port DPaint IV to run on OS4.
Easy.
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yeah, a piece of cake, ideed...
I'll consider getting my hands on buying EA, next week, if I don't have anything better to do! :-D
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publishing something is one thing biut creating is another, you guys are sooooo LOL! :D
do u really think they produced all? , nah wake up coz they didnt..
bf1942 is made by our friends "the silents" aka Digital illusions and so on....
anyway this petetion, sure its kinda....ermm impossible and rather hmm? but sure if someone would bother to update it from custom chip based to a ppc non custom board and then make it better than pp paint ,tvpaint,photgenics etc ? sounds like a job that will take longer than os4 to me ;) but still go for it...if EA wants to...then do it, i am sure it will be a product that atleast 90% of the users are fammiliar with + whom will buy the new wonder version.
cheers
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http://home.earthlink.net/~rockisle/files/dpaint.htm (http://home.earthlink.net/~rockisle/files/dpaint.htm)
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I'll hold my hands up, I signed.
It's mad though, we have some pretty good, I'll call them contenders for want of a better word. DPaint has been missing for a LONG time & would have so much ground to make up. With programs like Perfect Paint we should be fine.
I guess the main benefit would be the familiarity of the product, if people heard DPaint had returned for 2k, along with a new Amiga, public interest could be overwhelming.
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Be careful what you wish for... :)
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I wonder if the source code even still exists. ;-)
Why not petition to get Gimp on OS4?
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I agree with Rooney.
:-D OF&H (http://www.onlyfools.net/) reference?
Trotters Independant Trading Co. :roflmao:
Its Rodney, Delboy not Roony !! :-P
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@Gadget
Yeah well spotted...
I reckon that Everton whizz kid wayne rooney should go out on the firld with a shirt 'Rodney', someone (even in Liverpool) should get it.
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Sorry but that seems a bit pointless to me, especially since you ask specifically for an OS4 port... why would EA care for half a second about an OS that's not even released? Come back when there will be an established market of hundred of thousands users, and then EA may bust a move...
Asking for an open source release would have made more sense I think... At least it could be ported to Windows, Linux and Amiga OS with RTG support... but then I imagine the original code would be a nightmare to port... So maybe it's easier to start a clone from scratch :)
there were some pretty good attempts on PC some years ago (Grafx2, VGA Paint)... and on Amiga PPaint is free now. Does/will it work on MorphOS/OS4?
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This petition is very good indeed, because Deluxe Paint is one of the best drawing programs out there. Yeah! Just run and paint, animate and get creative!
Deluxe Paint is one of the most advanced drawing programs for sure! Its got the best ever animation console. If you want to do animGifs, you do it with Deluxe Paint and anim2gif tool on Aminet for example. Its damn easy! The only thing missing in Dpaint is full RTG support and layers. And not layers like in Photoshop, but more like those in TvPaint for Amiga.
www.amigaworld.org will contribute and help out this petition from this weekend on! we've talked to Virgin, and now its only upto Hyperion if they want to do a port of Unreal Tournament 2003 for AmigaOS4 or not.
So talking with EA, well.. www.amigaworld.org have allready sent a mail to EA in paper, e-mail and FAX version.
Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
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Why not petition to get Gimp on OS4?
That makes more sense. The source code is already out there. If I was a stronger programmer and had an A1 w/ OS4 I'd jump on it. :-D
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Sorry, but it seems like a silly idea. If the petition was to "Release the source code as open source for DPaint" then i'd sign it and be "all for it". But to try and get THEM to port an old application with no market is insane.
That's exactly what I was thinking. EA is beyond applications and they know that there is no money to be made in consumer desktop applications.
Asking them to open source it now that would be smart. That way someone could make both a blue and red versions. ;-)
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On the DPaint I could produce an animation in a few minutes ...
On PPaint I got tired of trying or it crashes before long...
So, we (/ I) need something like DPaint, only faster, perhaps.
If DPaint is not ported then it would be nice if some paint program GUI could be set so that it's identical to DPaint and as fast or faster.
Another old GFX apps that I loved to use is Brilliance (port of it would be nice as well) ... and Digipaint3 (it still works on a4K/060 and it's very fast and fun, too bad that it also is tied to legacy chipset).
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Most pointless petition ever.
There's more chance of asking Cloanto to update PPaint, which is a far superior product.
@AmiDelf
"now its only upto Hyperion if they want to do a port of Unreal Tournament 2003 for AmigaOS4 or not. "
No. It's UT that they're considering porting.
amigaworld.org (http://amigaworld.org) and scroll to the bottom.
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to confuse everyone here: why AmigaOS when there are already enough flavours of Linux exceeding AmigaOS4 and its laready got many apps.
Only geeks :-o will be investing in dedicated Amiga hardware. Looking on the financial side, that will not be me.
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A 24bit RTG version was coded but never released... instead of petitioning for an os4 port, ask for it to be made open source....
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Hi All-
I'm with ksk. When I had to make a fairly elaborate animation for some educational software I wrote, the package I ended up prerfering to use was Brilliance. DP4's light box feature is special, but rapid page flipping in Briliance was actually more useful for fine-tuning the frames. Even on my A4000/040 (25mhz) desktop DP4 dragged along poky-slow.
CRL :-)
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I liked Brilliance better for most paint and anim tasks.
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Hey .... up to 485....
I still prefer DPaint over the the more complicated programs ... ( I also love ImageFX.....)
:-)
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Only geeks will be investing in dedicated Amiga hardware. Looking on the financial side,
Call me a Geek then.....
I am already investing in the Amiga One.... and soon OS4.....
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This is stupid! Stupid STUPID!
I really wouldn't call it "stupid"... Asking alot ... Maybe....
Don't forget EA was one of the early software companies that DID support the Amiga early on....
Hey , why not again...?!!
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nstead of petitioning for an os4 port, ask for it to be made open source....
Then we will ask EA to stay in business for free.....???? :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
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You guys... :roll:
Waste of time.
I can't see why you can't just run it on an old A500 or something!
(PPaint for MOS would be good, however! ;)
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Here here Rodney!
Exactly what I thought. EA Games are one of the biggest game publishers (the only one to make any profit (from memory) the past year). I don't think EA has plans for the app market let alone a small fanatical userbase.
Secondly, making DPaint open source is truly an honourable thing to do... but honestly, why bother? There are so many better paint packages around that are being supported, why do we need another competitor?
To be blatantly honest, DPaint was powerful at its time for 'traditional art'. But now, we need more powerful Photoshop style tools that allow unrestricted layering and application of filters with a negotiable amount of undo ability and fast updates.
Photoshop can be beaten on the Amiga platform with a far better tool. IMO, Photoshop is very bloated and could do with a bit of lateral thinking on how it's tools and effects are applied. I don't think DPaints legacy of code is going to be powerful enough to allow easy implementation of the features that is expected of a modern paint program without a significant rewrite to the point where the whole project might as well be chucked!
It was a nice little trinket on the A500 and right up to AGA on the 1200... but a little dated 10 years down the track.
;)
Jarrod
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I agre with others: it's unrealistic.
And I don't care if I get flamed to hell for saying the truth:
DPAINT SUCKS THE SWEAT OF A DEAD VC'S...
..you know the rest.
PPaint lack three features: smudge, perspective and angled ellipses. DPaint on the other hand lack 1001 things which is present in PPaint.
IMHO: multilevel undo is a basic human right!!! :-)
For those who don't know: you can download PPaint full version at Aminet.
And Photoshop is what it sounds like: a pure image processor, a tool to touch up images or add effects. It's not a painting app.